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Norman Bates
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Mattavelli said:
Do you believe that the Bing Bang theory is wrong because it is not mentioned in the bible or what did you mean with that statement?
Do you believe that the Bing Bang theory is wrong because it is not mentioned in the bible or what did you mean with that statement?
Testosterone boy
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"the earth has been proven to be millions of years old."
Hogwash
Bullshit
Bunch of Malarky
Garbage
Lies
Deception
Witchcraft
same with the sun being "5 billion years old"
Scientists and athiests are doing the same thing that religous people are. Simplifying a complex reality so they "understand and feel comfortable" with it.
Believing their dogma requires more leaps of faith than being religous.
Hogwash
Bullshit
Bunch of Malarky
Garbage
Lies
Deception
Witchcraft
same with the sun being "5 billion years old"
Scientists and athiests are doing the same thing that religous people are. Simplifying a complex reality so they "understand and feel comfortable" with it.
Believing their dogma requires more leaps of faith than being religous.
Mattavelli
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The Bible mentions a pattern of creation in a matter of 7 days , i do not think that the big bang would work so quickly. So No i do not think the theory is correct.Nor do i think the earth is millions of years old or the sun.
what do you beleive.
Testosterone boy
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Mattavelli said:
I believe that we are fucked up.
It was interesting to speculate on the origins of the universe and life. It is also a total waste of time.
We really have no idea about this stuff...just theories. I don't believe anything except that something exists with Godlike characteristics. So I believe in God you might say.
That doesn't mean that I believe the Bible. It has suffered through so many translations by people who read their own ideas into it that it can't necessarily be taken literally.
I think God is pretty cool. He created people for amusement, his own private TV set. I think God wants us to have fun and be happy.
Mattavelli
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Dont take what im about to say as offensive, but many things have been proved and are laws of science not theories like the theory of big bang or the theory of evolution. and the Bible in most places is not to be taken literally too many people more than likely those like you who read it , read it in black and white.
learn greek and hebrew and go to the original. Everyone who reads the Bible develops their own sense of what it means.
so then you are a deist?
Robert Jan
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Logically there is a need for something supernatural, something neither math, pysics or chemistry or logic can explain. A god, if you will.
this is logical because science can never explain the reason of existance or reality. even if all of reality could be brought down to 1 formula, 1 equation, why is there a universe for this equation to describe?
cell division is only one so small example of the complexity of biology. there is no doubt that life is complex, too complex for us to ever totally understand it. Does this prove anything? does this prove the evolution theory is wrong?
Ive read a lot and written essays on evolutionism, creationalism and their arguments. A sure thing is that evolution happens. 100%. what would be REALLY strange and unexplainable and contradict all observations is if evolution did not happen.
whether its the only thing, i dont know.
What i can not understand is people attacking knowledge of the age of earth and the sun. These are not just wild theories, they are truely conclusions. of course you can never be accurate, but they wont be substancially wrong.
Millions of years not right? The human race has existed for 3 million years! just cuz we dont know much of ourselves from longer than a few thousand years ago doesn`t mean we werent there. Say that even if today, in our advanced, great developed society, what if all of us died, except for a small few somewhere.
What would be left of our society in 2 million years. ill type that for you
2000000 years. what kind of structures have we built that will survive 2 million years of erosion, climate changes, earthquakes, chemical breakdown?
would researchers in 2 million years be able to conclude there was a civilisation, or what it was all about?
this is logical because science can never explain the reason of existance or reality. even if all of reality could be brought down to 1 formula, 1 equation, why is there a universe for this equation to describe?
cell division is only one so small example of the complexity of biology. there is no doubt that life is complex, too complex for us to ever totally understand it. Does this prove anything? does this prove the evolution theory is wrong?
Ive read a lot and written essays on evolutionism, creationalism and their arguments. A sure thing is that evolution happens. 100%. what would be REALLY strange and unexplainable and contradict all observations is if evolution did not happen.
whether its the only thing, i dont know.
What i can not understand is people attacking knowledge of the age of earth and the sun. These are not just wild theories, they are truely conclusions. of course you can never be accurate, but they wont be substancially wrong.
Millions of years not right? The human race has existed for 3 million years! just cuz we dont know much of ourselves from longer than a few thousand years ago doesn`t mean we werent there. Say that even if today, in our advanced, great developed society, what if all of us died, except for a small few somewhere.
What would be left of our society in 2 million years. ill type that for you
2000000 years. what kind of structures have we built that will survive 2 million years of erosion, climate changes, earthquakes, chemical breakdown?
would researchers in 2 million years be able to conclude there was a civilisation, or what it was all about?
Mattavelli
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no that is not right, prove that the earth is millions of years old. what method did you , or a scientist use, and show me the references. radiometric, radiocarbon? strata? you have heard of these methods as many have but few people know much about how innacurate the methods are and yet..they are made to look incomprehensibly correct. if you want me to go into vast detail about the dating methods i will. Most ppl just believe what their told anyway id like to think i beleive what ive seen proved. I wasnt raised religious and i think if i were i would just go by " what my parents told me " thats crap and anyone who claims to believe in something better be able to back it up. but as it is not all things can exaclty be explained like if someone on here said " you say matter came from no where and you beleive in God so where did God come from? " i couldnt answer that exactly but i could give you a visual of how that works.
Mattavelli
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who cares what would come of our society in 2 million years if everyone , but 2 ppl were eradicated. Also no man knows the future so who is to tell what would become of us.
well of course evolution did take place , by that i mean evolving growing not darwins theory of evolution.
they are substancially wrong because the methods used to date such things have been disproven. it was not too long ago that i read about scientists examining a body that was said to have walked the earth over a million years ago..but somehow shortly thereafter they fould a miliary medallion buried where the body was. Hmm maybe we dont kno much about ourselves that far back if in fact we did exist a million or so years ago ..but i dont think we had a military then... now if that story is true then their dating methods are , safe to say, pretty far off. other than that is rests on faith in the unseen. Either you believe it or you dont but the least you ( everyone ) can do is go deep with what you beleive. Try the best you can to disprove creationsim and that God exists. the design of the universe, the design of nearly everything. the ethic diversity where did that come from. and all of the like.
Kalashnikov
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Mattavelli: you say that radiocarbon dating and other methods used by scientists are producing false information in regards to the Earth's age. Please tell me how old you think the Earth might be and why you have come to believe this.
Also, people incessantly argue about the earth's age, or the age of this fossil or that star. It is kind of strange to think that the units of time which are so ardently fought over are nothing but the elliptical movement of our planet around an insignificant star, hidden in a galaxy of which there are 250 billion. Just seems funny when you think of it that way.
Also, people incessantly argue about the earth's age, or the age of this fossil or that star. It is kind of strange to think that the units of time which are so ardently fought over are nothing but the elliptical movement of our planet around an insignificant star, hidden in a galaxy of which there are 250 billion. Just seems funny when you think of it that way.
Testosterone boy
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Kalashnikov said:
Whoa...now they are claiming to know how many stars their are? 250 billion? Shoot...we have no idea how many PEOPLE are on earth.
The radiocarbon dating is witchcraft....referring to previous other posts. "Man is 3 million years old." LOL! Yea...give or take about 2.9 million years.
We thought we had all the answers 100 years ago. The chief of the patent office said there was nothing else to invent for example. If we are still around in 100 years...maybe we will know something then.
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