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Could somebody explaine to me why we need police.
Could somebody explaine to me why we need police.
because we don't want a lawless gunslinging warlord country?jaybois said:http://prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/210907_b_brutality.htm
Could somebody explaine to me why we need police.
jaybois said:http://prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/210907_b_brutality.htm
Could somebody explaine to me why we need police.

Who said anythink about fuck police,i said why do we need them?And if everyone carried a fire arm there would be less gunslinging and no warlord country.Moltke said:because we don't want a lawless gunslinging warlord country?
i grew outta my fuck tha police phase when i was 16
jaybois said:Who said anythink about fuck police,i said why do we need them?And if everyone carried a fire arm there would be less gunslinging and no warlord country.
lol,no i don'tMoltke said:lol
you don't see a need for police?
if that's what you believe i have nothing more to say
Most laws are criminal,not all but most.BNG said:Left to police itself, criminals would be treated so harshly that there wouldn't be as much need for prisons, criminal lawyers, ect. It's become a big business.![]()
I understand the need for basic enforcement,I guess my frustration comes from the cripling laws passed against us all everyday.And with the police forced to enforce these laws.i tend look at them ''unfairly''and as a enemy.borris said:yeah this country would be real under control and obedient without law enforcement![]()
That sound great and all, but it won't fix the problem.I've had some bad run in's with leo's and i did nothing wrong.yonkers weights said:Big "problems" in Yonkers with that. Big Al was here weeks ago for a protest. Fuck him!
Act like animals, get treated like animals!
Don't do anything wrong and you will not get beat...
Do wrong and take the beating!
Agreed,simple respect can go a long way.yonkers weights said:I agree to a degree but I have never been beaten. I have gotten into my trouble with the law but always come out on top. Be respectful and you are ok.
Act like a monkey and get hit over the head. That's my moto!
BNG said:Most laws are criminal. In both meanings of that statement.
Most criminals get very light if any real punishment. So if there is such light punishment for criminal activity why would a law deter crime?
Law abiding people don't need more laws passed, they need current ones enforced.
Why are convicted criminals allowed to file lawsuits? They violated someones civil rights or they wouldn't be incarcerated. In that case they should forfeit their civil rights.
I couldn't convict a normal citizen of a crime if it was done to protect himself or his family. But I also would have a hard time NOT finding a person guilty if they were breaking laws in pursuit of gain against others.
I see nothing wrong with the death sentence, accept it take to long to carry out. Death sentences should be carried out quickly and televised. There should be only three appeals allowed. One at a local level, one at state, one to feds.
I believe all citizens have a responsibility to deter crime.
My big beef is the drug laws, more specifcally possesion laws.Crimes on property and people are a no brainer, that don't get the same attention from police like drug crimes do.BNG said:Most laws are criminal. In both meanings of that statement.
Most criminals get very light if any real punishment. So if there is such light punishment for criminal activity why would a law deter crime?
Law abiding people don't need more laws passed, they need current ones enforced.
Why are convicted criminals allowed to file lawsuits? They violated someones civil rights or they wouldn't be incarcerated. In that case they should forfeit their civil rights.
I couldn't convict a normal citizen of a crime if it was done to protect himself or his family. But I also would have a hard time NOT finding a person guilty if they were breaking laws in pursuit of gain against others.
I see nothing wrong with the death sentence, accept it take to long to carry out. Death sentences should be carried out quickly and televised. There should be only three appeals allowed. One at a local level, one at state, one to feds.
I believe all citizens have a responsibility to deter crime.
Agreed x10, Its real simple,don't fuck up-don't get you're ass beat. Surround yourself with trouble makers and you will get labeled as one, and its no-body's fault but you're own. Example> If you go to a party where there is people smoking weed and you're not. Then you leave get pulled over for whatever reason, or you are a passenger in a vehicle that gets pulled over. Cop smells the weedMoltke said:because we don't want a lawless gunslinging warlord country?
i grew outta my fuck tha police phase when i was 16
. Cop then asks if you have any weed in the car or have been smoking it. You say no ( jaybois said:Why are convicted criminals allowed to file lawsuits? They violated someones civil rights or they wouldn't be incarcerated. In that case they should forfeit their civil rights.
So everyone convicted of a crime violated someone's civil rights? come on
I agree with that.That's a pretty cut and dry situation.crazyjoe said:Agreed x10, Its real simple,don't fuck up-don't get you're ass beat. Surround yourself with trouble makers and you will get labeled as one, and its no-body's fault but you're own. Example> If you go to a party where there is people smoking weed and you're not. Then you leave get pulled over for whatever reason, or you are a passenger in a vehicle that gets pulled over. Cop smells the weed. Cop then asks if you have any weed in the car or have been smoking it. You say no (
fucking cop,why the fuck would he accuse ME of all people) Cop decides to search you and the vehicle. Finds nothing gives you warning or ticket and lets you go on you're way. Its you're god damn fault for putting yourself in the position of stinking like weed and getting pulled over. But I suppose it was the cops fault, and he was such a dick BLAH BLAH BLAH. I'm done!
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From dng's postcrazyjoe said:
I hear ya, i have 2 kids 6 and 4mo and i don't like my kid even walking to the bus stop alone.BNG said:OK, I'll go for the not every crime violates someone else idea. Drug laws are about the only ones that pertain. MOST crime involves violating someone or their property.
I'm sick and tired of hearing about child molesters getting off on technicalities, rpists getting minimal sentences, ect. Drugs are nearly synonymous with crime.
I personally don't see smoking weed as that big of a deal, but where would you draw the line? Because if one guy wants to smoke weed should I discriminate against the guy who's packing a spoon? Drug peeps rarely stay employed long, then they start violations against society to fund the addition. It's the same old fight been going one for a long time. If weed and hash were legal would crime drop?
I wasn't thinking about narc cons at the time. I had just read about that scumbag in Nv found on tape with a 4-5 year old girl. I'd kill him myself if I were her father.
BNG said:OK, I'll go for the not every crime violates someone else idea. Drug laws are about the only ones that pertain. MOST crime involves violating someone or their property.
I'm sick and tired of hearing about child molesters getting off on technicalities, rpists getting minimal sentences, ect. Drugs are nearly synonymous with crime.
I personally don't see smoking weed as that big of a deal, but where would you draw the line? Because if one guy wants to smoke weed should I discriminate against the guy who's packing a spoon? Drug peeps rarely stay employed long, then they start violations against society to fund the addition. It's the same old fight been going one for a long time. If weed and hash were legal would crime drop?
I wasn't thinking about narc cons at the time. I had just read about that scumbag in Nv found on tape with a 4-5 year old girl. I'd kill him myself if I were her father.
I was just using weed as an example.BNG said:OK, I'll go for the not every crime violates someone else idea. Drug laws are about the only ones that pertain. MOST crime involves violating someone or their property.
I'm sick and tired of hearing about child molesters getting off on technicalities, rpists getting minimal sentences, ect. Drugs are nearly synonymous with crime.
I personally don't see smoking weed as that big of a deal, but where would you draw the line? Because if one guy wants to smoke weed should I discriminate against the guy who's packing a spoon? Drug peeps rarely stay employed long, then they start violations against society to fund the addition. It's the same old fight been going one for a long time. If weed and hash were legal would crime drop?
I wasn't thinking about narc cons at the time. I had just read about that scumbag in Nv found on tape with a 4-5 year old girl. I'd kill him myself if I were her father.
which laws are crippling your life bro?jaybois said:I understand the need for basic enforcement,I guess my frustration comes from the cripling laws passed against us all everyday.And with the police forced to enforce these laws.i tend look at them ''unfairly''and as a enemy.
Just venting there my bad.resqguy said:
It's more less the potential these laws could have on my children and theirs.Too many to list, here in Colorado we have 33,000 laws.Mostly driven by revanew.superdave said:which laws are crippling your life bro?
This doesnt make any sense. The laws arent harming your life but they "might" harm your kids and grandkids? If I were you I would just teach your kids to not break the law, that might be a good start.jaybois said:It's more less the potential these laws could have on my children and theirs.Too many to list, here in Colorado we have 33,000 laws.Mostly driven by revanew.
That is immpossible.superdave said:This doesnt make any sense. The laws arent harming your life but they "might" harm your kids and grandkids? If I were you I would just teach your kids to not break the law, that might be a good start.
I never said they weren't harming me.just something i can't talk about.superdave said:This doesnt make any sense. The laws arent harming your life but they "might" harm your kids and grandkids? If I were you I would just teach your kids to not break the law, that might be a good start.
jaybois said:http://prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/210907_b_brutality.htm
Could somebody explaine to me why we need police.
Are you fucking stupid? I think so, where in here did i say I hate cops and support criminals.I am a father and a bussiness owner in colorado and have been a victim of police brutality.So fuck you.Did those cops protect that 14 year old?Did they catch her killer?all i'm trying to say is neighbors and commuinties communcatihg together would be far more effective.justinjones1963 said:To protect innocent people.
Fuck criminals. Three assholes broke into a house in my area and shot a 14 year old girl dead. Fuckheads like you who hate the police and support these criminals need to be fucking shot - after the police beat your ass down. Fuck criminals and fuck you for not supporting people who would risk their life to save yours.
superdave said:This doesnt make any sense. The laws arent harming your life but they "might" harm your kids and grandkids? If I were you I would just teach your kids to not break the law, that might be a good start.
gjohnson5 said:The police have a job to do and it would be anarchy without them / national guard.
But there are plenty of bad apples still to this day and there always will be as long as some believe they can get away with anything. Police were not elected judges...
The one sided law enforcement @ Jenna , LA along the racial line is a perfect example.
These types of situations should be monitored closely.
For one i doubt your a thug,2 if you use or possess steroids your a criminal,3I wasen't looking for a support group to bash leo's.4 You really think most bro's here would take reponsibility for their actions, If they got pinched, and were offered a way out.mobro said:Poor guy came here thinking us "thugs" would support the bashing of L.E. after all the "bust" talk. What he found was a group of individuals that except responsibility for their actions and are a LOT more opened minded and sensable than the meathead stigma people try to place on those who post on this board. Proud of some post on this thread.
Best thing you can do is lick your wounds and admit....there are a few things that you might want to go think about. AND I bet there is more to the story of your "brutality" than we are getting. I bet the only person that put you in that situation...was you.
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