solid 15 lbs

[sugarshane]

I'm planning an eq and test prop cycle. After everythings said and done with proper diet I am looking to retain about 15lbs. what amounts and for how long would you suggest. I will also have proviorin and clomid. Any suggestions would be grateful.

 

[jubei]

stats cycle history etc?

 

[Silent Method]

Training and adaptation history.

 

[magman1]

even with ur training/stats/cycle history, there is no way to guess what dosages will leave you with 15lbs! for beginners, eq 400-600mg a week...

 

[NapoleanComplex]

one question, why prop w/ EQ? Why not something like cyp or enanth w/ EQ. Why stab yourself more than necessary? This is what I'm planning:

test enanth: 750mg (wks 1-2)
test enanth: 500mg (wks 3-9)
QV equipose: 400mg (wks 1-10)
test prop: 100mg/EOD (wks 10-13)

If you are worried about missing out on your first few weeks of the cycle from the long esters, then frontload or grab some cheap-ass dbols.

 

[sugarshane]

why is it that everyone is so against prop for a full cycle. My last cycle was 200mg of prop for 10wks and 50mgwinny ed for 3 weeks. Great strenght hard as a rock and respectable weight gain during a dieting faze. This would be #3 -5'8, 170lbs, 29inch waist 17.5 inch arms.

 

[jubei]

I like prop for the whole cycle, but I don't mind the extra poking.

Week 1-12 100mg test prop eod
Week 1-10 600mg eq/week

.25mg ldex eod

That should get your your 15 lbs. Good luck.

 

[magman1]

only reason they are against it is bc of ed or eod shots

 

[DarkMoon]

well you have to admitt, those ED shots do become a bitch you know. I sometimes myself try to avoid those ED shots. Hell, I get tired of sticking myself with needles every damn day, but as one man said "Pain is beauty" so i take my pains beautifully

 

[NapoleanComplex]

it'd be different if he were running another compound that required ED or EOD injections (fina!?). But there is no need for the extra pokes when the only other compound is EQ. Test is test prop=enanth=cyp. Frontloading will make the most of your first few weeks.

 

[THEEGAME2544]

ED or EOD injections become easy and routine once you force yourself to do them. Then when you have a cycle that requires two or four injections a week, it truly is appreciated

 

[sugarshane]

I'm thinking 100mg of the prop every mon, wed, fri. With the 200mg of eq mixed in with each shot thats only 3 2cc shots a week

 

[diablo570]

I'm thinking 100mg of the prop every mon, wed, fri. With the 200mg of eq mixed in with each shot thats only 3 2cc shots a week

Sounds a little on the low side...but maybe Im wrong.
We have almost the exact same measuremeants, what is yourBF%? (I was measured at 5% but it seems more like 7% in the morror).

Here is what I was thinking about:

Week
1 Test Prop:100/wk Equipoise:200/wk
2 Test Prop:200/wk Equipoise:200/wk
3 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:300/wk
4 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:300/wk
5 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:400/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
6 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:400/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
7 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:400/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
8 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:400/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
9 Test Prop:300/wk Equipoise:300/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
10 Test Prop:200/wk Equipoise:300/wk Trembolone:35/dy*7=245
11 Test Prop:150/wk Equipoise:200/wk Trembolone:20/dy*7=140
12 Test Prop:100/wk Equipoise:100/wk Trembolone:15/dy*7=105

Is this a little too much for me (1st and only cycle was 5 years ago)

 

[bicepts101]

Sounds a little on the low side...but maybe Im wrong.
We have almost the exact same measuremeants, what is yourBF%? (I was measured at 5% but it seems more like 7% in the morror).

Here is what I was thinking about:

Week
1 Test Prop:100/wk Equipoise:200/wk
2 Test Prop:200/wk Equipoise:200/wk
3 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:300/wk
4 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:300/wk
5 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:400/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
6 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:400/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
7 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:400/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
8 Test Prop:350/wk Equipoise:400/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
9 Test Prop:300/wk Equipoise:300/wk Trembolone:50/dy*7=350
10 Test Prop:200/wk Equipoise:300/wk Trembolone:35/dy*7=245
11 Test Prop:150/wk Equipoise:200/wk Trembolone:20/dy*7=140
12 Test Prop:100/wk Equipoise:100/wk Trembolone:15/dy*7=105

Is this a little too much for me (1st and only cycle was 5 years
ago)

why all the tappering bro

front load the EQ800mg wk1
run it at 400 for the 12 wks

run prop 350mg wk1-

i would run tren from wk 7-14 cause you''ll have to wait 2 weeks to start PCT from the eq so you might as well run it untill then

 

[diablo570]

bicepts101,

So starting a cycle out low and gradually climbing is not recommended? I guess there are a lot of different ways of doing it. But loading EQ at the front seems to make a little sense especially if its slow acting.

Could you explain what PCT is?

Thanks bro

 

[bicepts101]

bicepts101,

So starting a cycle out low and gradually climbing is not recommended? I guess there are a lot of different ways of doing it. But loading EQ at the front seems to make a little sense especially if its slow acting.

Could you explain what PCT is?

Thanks bro

post cycle therapy

sustanan is long acting as well so no need to tapper

 

[slat1]

Hmmm... keep 15 lbs!?!? Let me know if there is one out there. To be the realist of the group. Most of what you retain is fat. If you have done a few cycles you should be happy with a gain of 5 lbs of pure muscle a year... unless you have some growth... that changes everything.

 

[bicepts101]

Hmmm... keep 15 lbs!?!? Let me know if there is one out there. To be the realist of the group. Most of what you retain is fat. If you have done a few cycles you should be happy with a gain of 5 lbs of pure muscle a year... unless you have some growth... that changes everything.

you must be retarted

 

[jubei]

you must be retarted

I think you hit the nail on the head.

 

[Testopro one]

you must be retarted

 

[liquidmuscle]

prop is tha shiznit but you gotta be ready to inject ed

 

[jubei]

prop can be shot eod just fine IMHO.

 

[slat1]

Instead of calling me retarded... why doesn't someone step up and help me out by listing a past cycle that achieved a 15 lb gain of lean muscle. I would be pretty excited to see how to do it. I have been trying to decide what to use next. I will go get what you guys recommend and post the results.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Instead of calling me retarded... why doesn't someone step up and help me out by listing a past cycle that achieved a 15 lb gain of lean muscle. I would be pretty excited to see how to do it. I have been trying to decide what to use next. I will go get what you guys recommend and post the results.

Sust@500mgs/week 1-9
D-bol@30mgs/day weeks 1-6
Eq@400mgs/week 1-10

Clomid/nolvadex started at week 13,coupled with .5mg/day of liquidex which was ran a week past the other SERMS.Protein sky high from start to finish.

Gained about 23-24 lbs,kept about 17 after water had cleared.This is not a recommendation,just stating what I achieved on this particular run a ways back.

 

[Hungry]

If youre on a budget, and dont want to full with all those shots.... can you run EQ by itself, and if so.. how much and how often would you inject?