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Sofa King Confused! Cycle Help???

BigGuyPHX

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Sorry for the long post but I got questions???

Stats:
36yo 5’10’’ 220pound(now) 10 to 12%bf Easy gainer.(don’t hate me)
Old school training for years! Days 3 on 1 off or 2 on 1 off. 4 day routine.
Diet 100% on the spot 6 to 8 whole food meals 300+ gms protein and sups. 1gal h20 ed.
Curently doing zero cardio and sleeping 8 to 10 hour per night.

My cycle (yep 6 weeks)
250mg Sustanon wk 1 and testE 200mg wk for weeks 2 - 6
D-bol 25mg ed wk 1-2
anavar 30mg ed wk 3-4-5-6

I planned on running proviron 25mg ed for 1 week starting on week 7. I am new to proviron so not sure how my body will react???

Question 1... I have clomid on hand not sure if I should consider using it at all because of the short cycle and low mgs, plus running proviron 1 week. Maybe just run some Dermacrine Sustain???

Question 2... I was going to order some fermera today to keep on hand and was wondering any other things I should keep on hand for this type of low mg short cycle?(I know I should of had this on hand already. My Bad.)

Question 3… I am into week 2 of cycle and feel super strong, up 13 pounds, and have changed physically a lot in 2 weeks, I’m kind of freaking out cuz the physical change has been huge. 100% of the people that know me have made comments. So my question is should I continue with the dbol or should I stick to my plan and do 30mg ed of anavar for the last 4 weeks of my cycle?(Note I am also new to anavar)

I am using a Human Grade Russia Methandienone, I was 207 two weeks ago and 220 today. I don’t look like the doe boy, I look bigger and my arms/chest look more vascular. To complicate matters even more I changed my entire workout 2 weeks before my cycle. I am doing some of Nelsons chest, arm, and leg routines from one of his ebooks also I am doing the Fascial stretching technique (fucking good shit! Thank Arnold for that one!!!!) PLUS I am traing harder than I ever have in my life! So I am thinking some of this 13 pound gain should be from the extreme change in my workout????

Along with all these changes my body was gear free(outside of a little past test use) so I think I’m hitting on all cylinders and then some. I don’t want to say it is all “water” cuz I understand and know what that looks like on the other hand I need to be realistic. I am simply confused off my ass on these 2 week gains, not 100% on my final p.ct, on hand just incase gear, and should I stick to my plan or should I stay on the dbol longer???

Need some good advice bros!

BigGuyPHX

Squat to ya teabag the floor!!! :chomp:
 
Nelson Montana said:
Not really sure what you're asking. Can you be more succient?

Sorry I know its a lot...

1. On this type of short cycle should I drop the idea of clomid? Just run proviron 1 week? Maybe add Dermacrine Sustain?

2. I thought with these low mg's cycle I should be safe from sides but I was highly recomended to get fermera. Is this a must have, just smart, or dont need?

3. I am confused about the 2 week 13 pound gain and if I should stay on the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - or jump to the anavar??? I feel like things are going 10 times better then I hoped for but I changed so much stuff in my workout so is it the gear, the workout, or because this is my first cycle like this outside of some test only cycles? Again stay on the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - or jump to the anavar tomorrow?

Sorry again for the long post I'm just confused as hell.

Thanks!!!
 
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Come on bros!!!
I need a little advice here!
The fucking FART thead has 42 more post than mine!
WTF???
BigGuyPHX

Yea I know the FART thread was pretty cool.
 
BigGuyPHX said:
Sorry for the long post but I got questions???

Stats:
36yo 5’10’’ 220pound(now) 10 to 12%bf Easy gainer.(don’t hate me)
Old school training for years! Days 3 on 1 off or 2 on 1 off. 4 day routine.
Diet 100% on the spot 6 to 8 whole food meals 300+ gms protein and sups. 1gal h20 ed.
Curently doing zero cardio and sleeping 8 to 10 hour per night.

My cycle (yep 6 weeks)I like 10 weeks but what ever
250mg Sustanon wk 1 and testosterone enanthate 200mg wk for weeks 2 - 6
Dianabol - methandrostenolone - 25mg ed wk 1-2
anavar 30mg ed wk 3-4-5-6

I planned on running proviron 25mg ed for 1 week starting on week 7. I am new to proviron so not sure how my body will react???if you plan to run it pree pct then run it the 6th week or last week of cycle I would go with 50mg ed

Question 1... I have clomid on hand not sure if I should consider using it at all because of the short cycle and low mgs, plus running proviron 1 week. Maybe just run some Dermacrine Sustain???good chose sustain is better I would still run 2 weeks hcg last 2 weeks just to be safe though

Question 2... I was going to order some fermera today to keep on hand and was wondering any other things I should keep on hand for this type of low mg short cycle?(I know I should of had this on hand already. My Bad.)na thats good bro just use it as you need it.

Question 3… I am into week 2 of cycle and feel super strong, up 13 pounds, and have changed physically a lot in 2 weeks, I’m kind of freaking out cuz the physical change has been huge. 100% of the people that know me have made comments. So my question is should I continue with the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - or should I stick to my plan and do 30mg ed of anavar for the last 4 weeks of my cycle?(Note I am also new to anavar)fuck what people say if you want to get big get big bro.

I am using a Human Grade Russia Methandienone, I was 207 two weeks ago and 220 today. I don’t look like the doe boy, I look bigger and my arms/chest look more vascular. To complicate matters even more I changed my entire workout 2 weeks before my cycle. I am doing some of Nelsons chest, arm, and leg routines from one of his ebooks also I am doing the Fascial stretching technique (fucking good shit! Thank Arnold for that one!!!!) PLUS I am traing harder than I ever have in my life! So I am thinking some of this 13 pound gain should be from the extreme change in my workout???? duh

Along with all these changes my body was gear free(outside of a little past test use) so I think I’m hitting on all cylinders and then some. I don’t want to say it is all “water” cuz I understand and know what that looks like on the other hand I need to be realistic. I am simply confused off my ass on these 2 week gains, not 100% on my final p.ct, on hand just incase gear, and should I stick to my plan or should I stay on the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - longer???

Need some good advice bros!

BigGuyPHX

Squat to ya teabag the floor!!! :chomp:
I would just stick with the dbols till week 4 and thats it bro..
 
hmm...I know I'm still a noob, but isn't running Test E for only 6 weeks pointless?

Assuming the Test takes 4 weeks before you feel any benefits, you will only have the advantage of the increased test for 2 more weeks?!?!?

I think you should run your cycle for at least 10-12 weeks

PS i love dbol haha im only 1.5 weeks in on my cycle and put on more that 8lbs

I would also add an AI to your cycle and PCT. Also never tried clomid, but from what i hear, the sides can be less than favorable. Maybe you should consider some Nolvadex instead.
 
BigGuyPHX said:
Sorry I know its a lot...

1. On this type of short cycle should I drop the idea of clomid? Just run proviron 1 week? Maybe add Dermacrine Sustain?

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SINCE I HATE CLOMID AND IT'S ONLY 6 WEEKS I'D GO WITH THE STANDARD PC T-- HC G, UNLEASHED, POST-CYCLSE, MYOGENX AND DERMACRINE. STILL, IT'S NEVER A BAD IDEA TO KEEP SOME DEXX ON HAND IF YOU'RE SUSEPTABLE TO GYNNO BUT IT'S UNLIKELY.








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2. I thought with these low mg's cycle I should be safe from sides but I was highly recomended to get fermera. Is this a must have, just smart, or dont need?


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SEE ABOVE.


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3. I am confused about the 2 week 13 pound gain and if I should stay on the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - or jump to the anavar???


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CONFUSED? YOU SHOULD BE ECSTATIC. OF COURSE IT'S A LOT OF WATER. YOU MAY WANT TO GET SOME DEFINITON IF YOU'RE BLOATING. BUT THAT GAIN SHOULD MAKE YOU FEEL STRONG. USE IT. LIFT HEAVY!!!


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I feel like things are going 10 times better then I hoped for but I changed so much stuff in my workout so is it the gear, the workout, or because this is my first cycle like this outside of some test only cycles? Again stay on the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - or jump to the anavar tomorrow?


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I THINK YOU'RE OVERCONFUSING IT. I WOULD HAVE DONE 10 MGS OF DBALL AND 15 MGS OF VARR FROM THE START ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THERE'S NO MAGICAL COMBINATION. IT'S ALL GOOD.

Sorry again for the long post I'm just confused as hell.

Thanks!!!

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Thanks needto and Nelson.
Yep your right I'm overconfusing it and yes I am ECSTATIC!
My cycle is going great(13 pound gain 2 weeks and I am wicked strong) so I just want to keep this gravy train going for the next 4 weeks.

I will take any advice you bros have to offer!

Thanks again!
 
Nelson Montana said:
I THINK YOU'RE OVERCONFUSING IT. I WOULD HAVE DONE 10 MGS OF DBALL AND 15 MGS OF VARR FROM THE START ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THERE'S NO MAGICAL COMBINATION. IT'S ALL GOOD


I love this idea nelson I love it so much I am going to try this soon.well maybe
20mg Anavar - oxandrolone - 30mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for a guy like me though. :evil:
 
BigGuyPHX said:
Thanks needto and Nelson.
Yep your right I'm overconfusing it and yes I am ECSTATIC!
My cycle is going great(13 pound gain 2 weeks and I am wicked strong) so I just want to keep this gravy train going for the next 4 weeks.

I will take any advice you bros have to offer!

Thanks again!
well there is one thing I have to say..you are growing very fast so please stretch and do rotations before work outs and watch out for injuries
 
needtogetaas said:
I THINK YOU'RE OVERCONFUSING IT. I WOULD HAVE DONE 10 MGS OF DBALL AND 15 MGS OF VARR FROM THE START ALL THE WAY THROUGH. THERE'S NO MAGICAL COMBINATION. IT'S ALL GOOD


I love this idea nelson I love it so much I am going to try this soon.well maybe
20mg Anavar - oxandrolone - 30mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for a guy like me though. :evil:


I was thinking about dumping all my tabs in a box of Luck Charms, shake that bastard up, and get a new magical surprise every morning for breakfast!

Has anybody seen me Lucky Charms? :p
 
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