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So when does the crash happen?? (My PCT experience so far.)

Curently in day 5 of PCT (my last shot was 8/28 - 19 days ago). 100mg of Clomid for the 1st three days, and 50mg thereafter (50mg/day for two more weeks). Also taking 40mg of Nolva for the 1st two weeks, then 20mg for 2 more weeks after that.

I am also taking trib and ZMA.

My cycle was 11 weeks of Test E at 325mg/wk, with a Dbol kicker (25mg/day) and Winny (30mg/day) tossed in at the end. (actually, 13 weeks counting the two weeks after the last shot.)

I have lost a few pounds (down to 186) but strength is still high, recovery is still good, and if anything, I look harder from losing the 4-5 pounds. (Test bloat clearing out possibly?)

Balls are big, still get roaring erections, still want to screw...the only thing that is worse is the acne on my arms and back, but it is still not that bad. I assume this is from the temporary hormone imbalance as the test clears out.

The Clomid is not affecting me adversely. If anything, I feel pretty good mentally - a bit more mellow that before but by no means lethargic. So far, this is nothing like the PCT after the Dbol cycle - which was bad for a good three days.

I did notice that my sinuses are constantly congested - not sure if this is a side of Nolva or Clomid or is just a coincidence.

Sex is good for stimulating test production, right? :)

I will keep everyone updated.


Bluesman
 
Not to sound gay or anything but I was thinking about you because I know we ran very similar cycles I ran 500 for 10wks you 325 for 12wks. My last shot was 8-25 and have been running clomid and nolva as well. I have been very pleased so far with the pct. I have droppped a few punds 210 to 205 so far but I imagine it's water weight , it's very noticable in the mirror. My strength has not gone down at all either, I actually broke through a plateau while on pct! No lethargy here either. Acne is starting to clear up, it had flared up for a bit while comming off the test but nothing a little b-5 and tanning can't hide. Good to hear we're in the same boat. You plan on running another one?
 
pdaddy said:
Not to sound gay or anything but I was thinking about you because I know we ran very similar cycles I ran 500 for 10wks you 325 for 12wks. My last shot was 8-25 and have been running clomid and nolva as well. I have been very pleased so far with the pct. I have droppped a few punds 210 to 205 so far but I imagine it's water weight , it's very noticable in the mirror. My strength has not gone down at all either, I actually broke through a plateau while on pct! No lethargy here either. Acne is starting to clear up, it had flared up for a bit while comming off the test but nothing a little b-5 and tanning can't hide. Good to hear we're in the same boat. You plan on running another one?

Hell yes I am planning on running another one! I want a hard 190-195. Not there yet.

I really was expecting a much worse PCT experience with this test cycle, which is why I asked if the crash happens later or what - but I guess both of us are doing alright. Still a ways to go, but everything is good so far.

Next summer I am thinking of Test E @ 400mg/week and EQ @ 400mg/wk, started by Dbol of course :)

In February I may try 5 weeks of T-Bol alone while doing a cutter to see what all the fuss is about.

Peace and Soul,


Bluesman
 
ya that head cold ... i got it too as well as almost all my roomates.. may be allergy's. coughing hacking shit up, its kinda going away. just thoguht thats what it was since we're close by. good job on the pct so far. baseball season over?
 
PCT looks very good, similar to mine with the nolv/clomid doses. Trib and ZMA is great post-cycle- you can also add stuff like avena sativa, maca, or muira puama to the keep sex drive going if that ever became a problem. Keep us updated :)
 
I notice the most loss after PCT is done. The four weeks following I drop a few pounds. Much like you and pdaddy I don't go crazy with the doses so I don't lose a lot either!
 
pdaddy said:
Not to sound gay or anything but I was thinking about you because I know we ran very similar cycles I ran 500 for 10wks you 325 for 12wks. My last shot was 8-25 and have been running clomid and nolva as well. I have been very pleased so far with the pct. I have droppped a few punds 210 to 205 so far but I imagine it's water weight , it's very noticable in the mirror. My strength has not gone down at all either, I actually broke through a plateau while on pct! No lethargy here either. Acne is starting to clear up, it had flared up for a bit while comming off the test but nothing a little b-5 and tanning can't hide. Good to hear we're in the same boat. You plan on running another one?

That was about the GAYEST thing I have ever heard. ;)
 
Sweed, summer league over, but I am now in a fall league (for the 1st time - I was recruited based on my play in the summer) Short season to 1st week of November, but with PCT right in the middle of it, I was a bit worried. Double-header scheduled tonight, but there is no way we are getting them in with this torrential rain.

Good luck with your Johnson and that deca!

NH and Slat, good to hear that similar cycles and PCT to mine had good experiences. I was expecting to hear, "Oh just wait until the third week when you roll up in a ball and die!" :)


Bluesman
 
Just a quick update:

Day 9 of PCT, still feeling pretty good. Body zits getting worse though. This made me think of something - I have seen complaints that Clomid/Nolva creates acne break outs - but I am not sure I buy this. It is the hormone imbalnce going on during PCT that is making zits, not the clomid...everyone just happens to be on Clomid when they break out. At least, that is my theory...

One more note on the Clomid. I woke up this morning and it took a while for my vision to focus. It could be that I slept on the side of my face or something, but I am a bit worried it may be the Clomid. I kind of need to see when fastballs are whizzing by my head.

So 50mg for three more days and then done with the Clomid. I will continue with Nolva at 40mg for another 5 days, then two more weeks at 20mg/day.

Strength still very good. Libido good. Wood is good. Energy levels are normal. Weight down to about 184 but with a noticeable reduction in water. My socks used to make big indents in my calves and ankles after about week 8 from too much water retention - that is not happening anymore.

I was thinking about my next long cycle - I need to be strong and have recovery ability from mid may to the end of August. That is too many weeks for a cycle (at least for me) but now that I know that I still have good strength a couple of weeks into PCT, I can end a cycle and start PCT at the beginning of August and still be in good shape for the stretch run.

So I can do a 12 or 13 weeker of Dbol/Test/EQ starting in mid may and still blast through the whole summer season. Nice.


Bluesman
 
i usualy crash around week 5-6 after last shot. every time i think i;ve made it through the shit, i crash and lose weight and strenght, and i am still running pct. yes i run pct for long periods of time
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
Just a quick update:

Day 9 of PCT, still feeling pretty good. Body zits getting worse though. This made me think of something - I have seen complaints that Clomid/Nolva creates acne break outs - but I am not sure I buy this. It is the hormone imbalnce going on during PCT that is making zits, not the clomid...everyone just happens to be on Clomid when they break out. At least, that is my theory...

One more note on the Clomid. I woke up this morning and it took a while for my vision to focus. It could be that I slept on the side of my face or something, but I am a bit worried it may be the Clomid. I kind of need to see when fastballs are whizzing by my head.

So 50mg for three more days and then done with the Clomid. I will continue with Nolva at 40mg for another 5 days, then two more weeks at 20mg/day.

Strength still very good. Libido good. Wood is good. Energy levels are normal. Weight down to about 184 but with a noticeable reduction in water. My socks used to make big indents in my calves and ankles after about week 8 from too much water retention - that is not happening anymore.

I was thinking about my next long cycle - I need to be strong and have recovery ability from mid may to the end of August. That is too many weeks for a cycle (at least for me) but now that I know that I still have good strength a couple of weeks into PCT, I can end a cycle and start PCT at the beginning of August and still be in good shape for the stretch run.

So I can do a 12 or 13 weeker of Dbol/Test/EQ starting in mid may and still blast through the whole summer season. Nice.


Bluesman

if you're breaking out during PCT its going to last a while... i was breaking out for weeks after my PCT and ended up on accutane, body acne was disgusting (shoulders, down spine)

if you have it take 20mg accutane EOD and it should control it no prob w/o any annoying sides.
 
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