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So the E.R. doc said I am going to die......

hairchallengedanimal said:
why continue winny at high dosages if it gets really bad?.. sigh.. if you had this before you are indeed stupid, sorry i'm not being an ass just realistic
I started using winny again because I wasn't sure if the problems I'd experienced before were related to its use. It wasn't until now that I realized that my kidneys don't like high dosed winny, or at least the brand I'm using. Believe me, I think things through extensively before I act.
 
You can't blame the doctor for telling you what he's been told to tell you since medical school. Endocrinology is not his specialty so he's isn't anymore qualified to speak on it than he is neurosurgery or onocology. He's just an ER doc who is probably very good at treating trauma cases. Doctor's assume that you are uneducated and mis-using AS.
 
Thank you to everybody that showed support. I get really fed up with obtuse people. I wish everybody would be more open minded and listen to all the facts before they make decisions. That doctor was just one of many people I encounter on a daily basis that make bad judgement calls. I'll get over it, but what I won't get over is the feeling of being powerless to envoke change in the system. I feel like more often than not, I get pushed around by people in high offices such as medical or government job fields. They take advantage of me because I'm a 25yr old kid, that isn't rich, and doesn't have political or local connections. The story I shared with you all is just one of few that has happened to me recently. If I was a 40yr old tax attorney, I probably wouldnt be treated the way I am. I don't bring it on myself either, I'm very well spoken, and I dress nice. I don't deserve to be kicked around and then have the people try to hide behind the law because they fear I'll beat the shit out of them. Or they have more resources than me so they can higher attorneys that can beat me in court if I attempt to take it there. I'm not just talking about what happened in the ER, I've had a lot of bullshit situations happen to me lately where I was taken advantage of. I always felt that if I got big enough that people wouldn't fuck with me, well I'm big now and I just get fucked with in a different way. Now I need the money and power. Thanks for listening to my problems.
 
This is the reason why I fucking hate docs! They all think they are gods! Like I said many times before. They are people that go to school, graduate and then open a business or work at a business ( hospital ). Many of them are educated with shit of many years ago! It's like a computer tech that is an expert in DOS looking for a job being a Linux Server Admin. It just doesn't work like that. DOS is fucking old school shit!

Androjunkie...you have to do what I did. Search and search your ass off for a good doc. A doc that you can trust. And most importantly....a doc that is young! Not some old fucker! It took me around 3 months to find my doc. I must have went to about 7 docs before finding him.

Even when I called to make appointments, I asked the receptionist how old the doc was. And what year he graduated. Shit! If I can find a pic of him on the net...that would be useful too. My doc is a great doc! He is smart, patient, respectful and educated on the new shit in life.
 
Sorry to tell you the truth but usually older doctors are the ones that care about people!!!! alot of new docs are here for the money thats it!!!!!.Old school doctor care about you!!! Common you guys get some sense now!!, A lot of us are in Denial AAS over long long period of times are bad for you not matter how good you did your cycles and did all the step for your health. I personally would stop one day once I reached my goals!!! just my .02 cents
 
i don't have time to go into details now but got routine bloodwork done yesterday for a checkup and EVERYTHING was out of whack: my blood pressure, cholesterol, and liver enzymes. i am jsut at the end of a cycle that now consists of tren and eq. the worst was my triglycerides.

i had to fess up to my doc when he questioned me since my vitals have always been stupendous. was a very uncomforable appointment. will post more on this later.\

anyhow, will be doing a retest in three or four weeks when have been off cycle for about a month. hopefully all will be back to normal.

my doc was not judgemental but admitted he was very naive about AAS use and was ready to prescribe cholesterol lowering meds. i just could not lie to him.
 
HumanTarget said:
moderation is the key.


Exactly. I think that for the average recreational bodybuilder who dosen't compete, there is no need to use anything other than test and deca. Test and deca used in low to moderate dosages are very safe and produce excellent results.
 
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Im a male nurse going for my masters, I work in the ER, many doctors are ignorant about steroids. When I collapsed last year from an infected abcess from tren i was rushed to the hospital in nyc and luckly my dr. worked with many bodybuilders. You have to find a doctor that knows about juice thats it. Many surgons in my hospital are on GH, its just all about finding the right DR. The reason they wouldent give you more pain meds is because they might have though u had a drug problem. its true about needed a ride home, but it just depends on the med.
 
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