So many options, what the hell to do?

[ballslee]

Alright after being on this board a while I have changed what/how I am going to cycle. Looking for some insight on what will be the most bang for my buck on my next cycle.

I already have:
3 Bottles of Test C
30 50mg winny Orals

other options for cycle are:
Mast E 500mg/wk or could do more like 750...
Primo 600mg/wk
Tbol
Proviron

to a lesser extent:
NPP, Anavar

wish i could find some 1-test cyp, but for now it is not avail


my goal here is cutting....i have all the support and PCT supps handled, just looking for some insight about these options.

my first thought is:
Test C 500mg 1-14
Mast E 500/750 1-10/12ish
Tbol 1-4 40mg/60mg
Proviron 1-10 50mg
Winny 12-16 50mg

not sure if i will use Formastanzol during or wait for PCT because the mast/prov should be enough to control estrogen.....
anyone ever use proviron and mast together?

 

[goin on 4T]

age, stats, cycle history and prior pct?

 

[ballslee]

i seriously hate these questions...just evaluate the cycle as is. i've answered them on here before on previous posts, no need to continually ask that question.
im 6'4 300 (i have said my BF is about 15 (not gonna pay to get it done....could be lower or higher, but my abs show @ 300 so IMO im not fat whatsoever)
23
probably have run about 10 cycles, run hgh, and i said my pct will be the Elite PCT for the first time...my previous pct have been the other rationales floating around on the internet, but I am convinced of this boards thinking.

my last cycle was of the richter scale according to this board, and im not trying to get flamed....ive changed how i have thought about stuff, so if your gonna flame me over this then just shut up now
1-15 Test E 1000mg
1-13 Deca 600mg
1-13 EQ 600mg
1-4 Anavar 60mg
6-10 Win 50mg
13-17 Win 50mg
HGH 3IU AM 6 on 1 off


since have worked hgh up to 5 IU, and currently am taking a break from it (was on for about 8 months)

recently tried a sarms cycle and liked it except that damn S4 and my yellow glasses at night lol

i was not directing any of that smartass comment/flaming stuff to you goin on 4T, but i just know how people are on here.
(PS not posting pics, job related)

 

[goin on 4T]

Provi and mast together are a waste.
Don't need to run forma during while taking mast.
Why not
600mg Cyp
600mg Mast
600mg Primo
1-4 Dbol
last 4 winny
start GH 2 months before cycle or just jump on now... 3.33IU/day

 

[ballslee]

so are you saying mast primo and winny at the same time??
would still like some hair after this cycle, even tho i am not very prone to hair loss (my hair just kind of stops growing and gets oily on DHT's) but have run mast prop and anavar together with no problems.

i was thinking 500/750 with those dosages for cyp and mast because of the concentration levels.....I feel much better about 1CC or 1.5CC then I do with those lines in the middle if you catch my drift.

and DBol? I was wanting to try TBOL but curious to your approach with DBol on this...

 

[ballslee]

would 400 primo be a waste here? ive read 600-800 is the sweetspot, but with the mast and orals could it be useful?

 

[goin on 4T]

Yeah I wasn't thinkihng you cared about your hair.
Here is good one, so good I am on it now.
1-4 weeks dbol 50mg
1-4 weeks cyp 500mg
.5 adex eod
5-10 weeks cyp 200mg
5-10 weeks eq 600mg
.5 adex eod
10-24 weeks cyp 600mg
10-24 weeks eq 600mg
10-24 weeks primo 600mg
20-24 weeks anavar 50mg /day
10mg aromasin eod
24-30 weeks prop 100mg eod
24-30 weeks mastron 100mg eod
28-30 weeks winny 30mg/ day
10mg arosamin eod

 

[infraredline]

Alright after being on this board a while I have changed what/how I am going to cycle. Looking for some insight on what will be the most bang for my buck on my next cycle.

I already have:
3 Bottles of Test C
30 50mg winny Orals

other options for cycle are:
Mast E 500mg/wk or could do more like 750...
Primo 600mg/wk
Tbol
Proviron

to a lesser extent:
NPP, Anavar

wish i could find some 1-test cyp, but for now it is not avail


my goal here is cutting....i have all the support and PCT supps handled, just looking for some insight about these options.

my first thought is:
Test C 500mg 1-14
Mast E 500/750 1-10/12ish
Tbol 1-4 40mg/60mg
Proviron 1-10 50mg
Winny 12-16 50mg

not sure if i will use Formastanzol during or wait for PCT because the mast/prov should be enough to control estrogen.....
anyone ever use proviron and mast together?

This is what I recommend
Cycle:
1-12 test c 500mg (250mg mon 250 Thursday)
1-12 mast e 450mg (225mg mon 225mg thurs)
1-4 tbol 60mg ed
9-12 winny 50mg ed (I wouldn't use the winny but its your choice)
1-4 & 9-12 organ support
*9-12 var 60mg (I would use this instead of winny but choose one of the two)
13-14 1000iu hcg a week
Pct:
15-18 clomid 25mg ed
15-18 post cycle unleashed combo
15-18 formastanzol
15-18 3g d-aspartic acid ed

 

[EZ_E]

i seriously hate these questions...just evaluate the cycle as is. i've answered them on here before on previous posts, no need to continually ask that question.
im 6'4 300 (i have said my BF is about 15 (not gonna pay to get it done....could be lower or higher, but my abs show @ 300 so IMO im not fat whatsoever)
23
probably have run about 10 cycles, run hgh, and i said my pct will be the Elite PCT for the first time...my previous pct have been the other rationales floating around on the internet, but I am convinced of this boards thinking.

my last cycle was of the richter scale according to this board, and im not trying to get flamed....ive changed how i have thought about stuff, so if your gonna flame me over this then just shut up now
1-15 Test E 1000mg
1-13 Deca 600mg
1-13 EQ 600mg
1-4 Anavar 60mg
6-10 Win 50mg
13-17 Win 50mg
HGH 3IU AM 6 on 1 off


since have worked hgh up to 5 IU, and currently am taking a break from it (was on for about 8 months)

recently tried a sarms cycle and liked it except that damn S4 and my yellow glasses at night lol

i was not directing any of that smartass comment/flaming stuff to you goin on 4T, but i just know how people are on here.
(PS not posting pics, job related)

Not everyone had read all of your posts....is that big a deal to re-post your stats...and no one is here to flame anyone, so relax

 

[ballslee]

Yea not so sure im in fora 30 weeker!

I could possibly drop the win for var.....but for some reason I have way higher aggression on it.

I like the last cycle too.....curious 4T about the dbol

 

[goin on 4T]

Thanks to Radar I finally made the move to try dbol. I do 40-50mg per day for 30 days. Its amazing shit if you get real stuff. I absolutely love it.
But while running the dbol I suggest you run test at 200 and EQ at 600. You should start the test and EQ 4 weeks early so they are in your system, its all for collagen and safe joints as the dbol is going to increase your strenth like nothing else I had ever done. Also run an AI as dbol can bloat the hell out of you. I prefer aromasin 12mg EOD to adex .5 EOD.

 

[ledhead]

i seriously hate these questions...just evaluate the cycle as is. i've answered them on here before on previous posts, no need to continually ask that question.
im 6'4 300 (i have said my BF is about 15 (not gonna pay to get it done....could be lower or higher, but my abs show @ 300 so IMO im not fat whatsoever)
23
probably have run about 10 cycles, run hgh, and i said my pct will be the Elite PCT for the first time...my previous pct have been the other rationales floating around on the internet, but I am convinced of this boards thinking.

my last cycle was of the richter scale according to this board, and im not trying to get flamed....ive changed how i have thought about stuff, so if your gonna flame me over this then just shut up now
1-15 Test E 1000mg
1-13 Deca 600mg
1-13 EQ 600mg
1-4 Anavar 60mg
6-10 Win 50mg
13-17 Win 50mg
HGH 3IU AM 6 on 1 off


since have worked hgh up to 5 IU, and currently am taking a break from it (was on for about 8 months)

recently tried a sarms cycle and liked it except that damn S4 and my yellow glasses at night lol

i was not directing any of that smartass comment/flaming stuff to you goin on 4T, but i just know how people are on here.
(PS not posting pics, job related)

You can post pictures, just don't show your face.. 6'4 300 lb, you must be a monster????

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ yes i want to see pics of a 6 4 300 pound monster with abs.

color me skeptical. the typical guys with those stats is a nose tackle in the NFL with about 25% body fat who spends his day occupying a guard and center allowing the backers behind him to run around making tackles.

post a pic and edit out your face.

 

[ballslee]

well i have run Dbol before, but on your first post before you said the EQ you said run it with the mast and primo....
would it be useful on a cutter if run like that? and if running with those, no need for an AI?

sorry guys, you can believe me or not.....dont have a camera at work with me.
and again thats why i hate giving out that info cuz nobody believes me....i shoulda just said im 5'10 225 like everyone else, i mean there is nothing to gain by me exaggerating anything to anyone on here. i'm 6'4 and I can juice (most NFL lineman cannot....well that surely can be debated, but besides the clear HGH abuse in the NFL it is much harder to get away with juicing) if they were, maybe they would look better. and the fatass one's you are referring to are more like 330, the ones that are 300ish are the likes of JJ Watt, Justin Smith, NDomakin Suh, etc

most bodybuilders that are larger get above 300 in the offseason, jay cutler is 300+ in the offseason and competes at 275 if im not mistaken. and he is much shorter than me.
tony freeman weighs 350 offseason, and hes about my height. (i may be off a little bit here, but the numbers are pretty close if im not mistaken)

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ one of the rules of the site is not to give advice to guys we deem to be too out of shape to use anabolics. based on your stats you fit that bill.. thats why i would like to see pics. its as simple as that..

i'm not trying to flame or be an ass but as a moderator on here i would be a hypocrite if i didn't try and protect the members on here from doing themselves bodily harm.

yes jay cutler and other heavyweight BB"s are 300 in the offseason but he also is carrying around an incredible amount of muscle mass. its not an accurate comparison unless you are as massive as him

 

[ballslee]

well steve i promise you im not out of shape. been working out for about 12 years, 4-5 days a week, I did indeed used to play football.
I eat clean and healthy, do plenty of cardio
And i do have a lot of muscle mass.
oh and my doctor says im as healthy as an ox....bloods, lipids, liver enzymes, everything in tip top.

so as I understand your concern, I am not a rookie by any means to this lifestyle. I may have limited posts on this website, but I do indeed have a very good knowledge.
I am smart, I have an MBA, and a fulltime big boy job just like you. I wont do pictures to prove anything to you, and if you don't want to believe me you are more than welcome to block me but I am not breaking any rules (that i know of).I am here to learn and for all good intentions, and it would be a shame to ban someone who has said nothing bad about this site at all.