smacker fat burner opposed to Vaspro

[sydney22]

Thanks guys.

Hmmm, maybe thats why I never felt anything with the ephedrine. I am cycling off it right now so I can take my new product when it arrives, whenever that may be, I ordered like a 1/2 week ago and haven't gotten a shipping e-mail and am now worried. I still have some Vaspro left, if I never use it again, I am definately going to use more at a time...

And yeah, my product already comes with the hoodia so we'll see what happens. At the moment my appetite isn't a problem, but I wanted it there just in case my urge to binge gets stronger while I'm on vacation or something.

Since I'm not the typical size for someone taking supps, how much ephedra do you guys think I should take each time and how many times a day? I was thinking 25mg 2x a day, once before each of my workouts. But maybe I should add one in between considering I would be taking it around 5 AM then 3-4:30 PM? I always wake up at 5 AM, aside from Saturday and Sunday, and usually go to sleep between 9-12, depending on if I work or not.

 

[alex2678]

Once in a while I'll work out with a female trainer from my gym who's 5'5 130lbs. and she seems to have no problem with 25 mgs. ephedrine 200mgs. caffeine 3x a day. If you feel jittery and can't fall asleep you could either cut it back or make sure you don't take it before bedtime.

 

[sydney22]

Hmmm...

The pills I am getting have 25mg in each, but they say you can break them in half. Should I ramp up? And should I ramp up by taking lower dosages but at the same times, or ramp down how many times I take them a day? Maybe I could do something like 25mg before my workout at 5 AM, 12.5mg around 11 AM, and 25mg around 4 PM, before my second workout? Do you think something like that would work?

 

[alex2678]

You could do that. To get the "synergistic" effects of ephedrine and caffeine it should be at a 1:10 ratio, so if you cut your ephedrine in half you'll have to take it with half the amount of caffeine (100mgs.) Ephedrine usually lasts only 3-4 hours in your bloodstream. If it doesn't make you too shakey, I'd take it 25mgs. ephedrine and 200 mgs. caffeine at 5am, 11am, and 4 pm along with your yohimbine and TRx. If it keeps you awake, you could always take some Benadryl before bedtime. Which is probably good for your beta receptors anyways. Keeps the fat burning effects from wearing off.

 

[sydney22]

You could do that. To get the "synergistic" effects of ephedrine and caffeine it should be at a 1:10 ratio, so if you cut your ephedrine in half you'll have to take it with half the amount of caffeine (100mgs.) Ephedrine usually lasts only 3-4 hours in your bloodstream. If it doesn't make you too shakey, I'd take it 25mgs. ephedrine and 200 mgs. caffeine at 5am, 11am, and 4 pm along with your yohimbine and TRx. If it keeps you awake, you could always take some Benadryl before bedtime. Which is probably good for your beta receptors anyways. Keeps the fat burning effects from wearing off.

Alright...so 3x a day it is. Should I ramp up then tapper off, or do one or the other or just jump right in and cut it all off? Also, since I all be cycling on and off, do I have to ramp/taper or one or the other every time or just the initial time? Also, how much TRx should I take each dose?

 

[alex2678]

I'd just start off at 3 a day right away, never found any benefit with cycling ephedrine. And the Benadryl works to upregulate your receptors so if you take that before bedtime each night you really can stay on the ephedrine for a longer period of time and still get a fat burning effect. TRx I'd just take one 3x a day with the rest of the supplements. If you want to be cautious, you can take one the first day, see how you feel, then increase it the following two days. You shouldn't feel much different though.

 

[Assertive Guy]

Alright...so 3x a day it is. Should I ramp up then tapper off, or do one or the other or just jump right in and cut it all off? Also, since I all be cycling on and off, do I have to ramp/taper or one or the other every time or just the initial time? Also, how much TRx should I take each dose?

With the ECA you dont have to taper. Again, I would only take 50mg each dose of the ephedrine. Any less doesn't cut it for me.

 

[sydney22]

Thanks for all the help... but remember, I am going to give ephedra a try instead of ephedrine...I assume none of the advice changes???

One stupid question though...how do I know if the ephedra is helping me lose weight?

 

[Mr_Sinister]

IMO that looks like alot to take in a single day and proceed cautiously when you have Y and E in tandem. E being a beta agonist will work to release epinephrine and norepinephrine quite well, couple that with Y (alpha 2 antagonist) which temporarily blocks off blood vessel dilation and sedation...could lead you to arrythmia, dizziness, blood pressure issues until the drugs clear your system. I think a better way to do it would be to take E for a cycle then when you no longer get jittery, drop it and switch to Y for a cycle and keep repeating the process.

 

[sydney22]

Alright, thank you for that other prespective. It does seem like I am stacking a bit much, but we'll see how much my body can handle. Right now I am worried about ephedra 25mg 3x a day being too much, but I'll see how I feel. Also, is the benedryl at night safe? and how about taking the TRx with everything?