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smacker fat burner opposed to Vaspro

sydney22

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I invested in a bottle of ephedrine HCL Vaspro, and I have been using 1 pill, 2x a day before my workouts with 200mg of caffiene each time. And honestly, aside from a little surge of energy, I don't feel/notice any other difference. God knows my diet has been near perfect and I have been working out atleast 10x a week.

Someone informed me even though this didn't work for me, herbal ephedra may help. So I am going to buy the original smacker fat burner with 25mg of ephedra in each capsule. Do you guys recommend to take 1 25mg cap 2x daily or break them up to take 12.5 mg like every 4 hours? Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with this product? Is it reliable? Any information would be appreciated, including a place to buy it a little cheaper, because right now I am planning to get 100 caps for $65.

Thanks.
 
Ive tried the Vasapro Epehdrine, w/ Caffein stack, Little change in my alertness/energy.

then i picked up some fat burners with herbal epherdra and other ingredients and lets say it kicked vasapros ephedrine's ass. Fuck the chemcial, even tho its supposed to be accurately dosed, meanwhile the herb is just a give or take, i still get/feel better from the herbal ephedra.

below is what was in it....


Caffeine 200mg per serving - Pure pharmaceutical grade caffeine is used instead of the weaker guarana or green tea to release free fatty acids from stored fat. When combined or stacked with aspirin it creates a synergistic effect.

Citrus Aurantium 250mg per serving - Metabolic Fuel RX contains a high amount of citrus Aurantium which contains Synephrine, N-Methyl Tyramine, Tyramine, Hordenine, and Octopine. These agents are B3 fat receptor fighting agents which are crucial for maximum fat loss.

Coleus Forskohlii 100mg per serving - Coleus Forskohlii increases natural thyroid function, important for long term fat loss. Dieting slows down the thyroids activity, which makes it difficult to continue to lose fat over an extended period of time. A sluggish thyroid is also the reason people rebound and regain their fat after dieting. Coleus Forskhlii works well because it counteracts the age-related decrease in response of fat cells to thermogenic agents (heat producing and calorie burning) agents.

Aspirin 100mg per serving - When added to caffeine it adds in creating the ultimate thermogenic environment through synergy.

Bioperine 5mg per serving - Thermogenic nutrient included in the formula that increases the absorption of all the fat burning compounds in Metabolic Fuel RX. Bioperine increases effectiveness and potency.

Yohimbine HCL 5 mg per serving - For those of you that have trouble losing fat in problem ares such as love handles, hips, thighs, and gluteus, Yohimbine HCL block all three Alpha fat receptors categories. Women will benefit greater from Yohimbine HCL than men since they tend to posses more A2 fat receptors. By blocking A2 fat receptors you will burn fat in hips, gluteus and thighs, creating a slim waistline.
 
Thank you for your reply, that was very helpful. I ordered a bottle of Smacker fat burner, chosing it over Stacker which I also found easily, because Smacker has Hoodia. Smacker contains:
25mg ephedra
200mg caffeine from Kola Nut
105mg White Willow Extract
Vitamin B5
Hoodia Extract

Do you think I should stack this with something else, like Coleus Forskohlii and/or Yohimbine HCL?

Thanks for your input.
 
The only fat burner I've ever taken was Lipokinetix, which has been gone for years. But two of the ingredients, aside from the ephedrine/caffeine, were Yohimbine HCl and 3,5-diiodo-l-thyronine. TRx by Performance Bio Labs makes that seperately. (Google it to find a source) Better at supporting thyroid function than Coleus.

And of course diet and cardio are your overall best fat burners...Had to throw that in there. :)
 
Did Lipokinetix work for you? What were the dosages of the two you mentioned per serving in Lipokinetix?

Is it safe to stack more with my already made stack?
 
Lipo was the only supplement that ever worked for me. I was down to my lowest (for me) of 6-7 % bodyfat at the time. I'm guessing a lot of it had to do with the sodium usniate, which is no longer available anywhere that I know of. But the the yohimbine HCl and 3,5-diiodo-l-thyronine were good additions. For yohimine the usual dose is .2mg/kg of bodyweight. (10-20 mgs a day was in Lipo. Can't remember for sure) The 3,5-diiodo-l-thyronine was 200-400 mcg. per day spread out.
 
Do you think stacking ...

25mg ephedra
200mg caffeine from Kola Nut
105mg White Willow Extract
Vitamin B5
Hoodia Extract
Yohimbine HCL
TRx
Bioperine
Citrus Aurantium

is a good idea? do you think only like 15mg of yohimbine daily would yield any good results? I'm only about 140 lb.
 
sydney22 said:
Do you think stacking ...

25mg ephedra
200mg caffeine from Kola Nut
105mg White Willow Extract
Vitamin B5
Hoodia Extract
Yohimbine HCL
TRx
Bioperine
Citrus Aurantium

is a good idea? do you think only like 15mg of yohimbine daily would yield any good results? I'm only about 140 lb.

When I take ephedrine hcl, I *never* take less than 50mg each serving. Try doubling your current ephedrine intake. You should take 50mg 3*per day with the caffiene (ephedrine stops working after 4-6hrs). The ephedrine (form what I've learnt AND experienced), wont kick in for 20-45 mins after taking. Some studies have caffiene taking up to an hour to be fully circulating in your system.

Also, the other ingredient in the Vasopro, can act as a muscle relaxant, so see if you can get pure ephedrine from here (some of which can convert into speed in your system):

http://www.dnepharm.com/cgi-bin/dnestore/B10082782.html

Good luck.
 
sydney22 said:
Do you think stacking ...

25mg ephedra
200mg caffeine from Kola Nut
105mg White Willow Extract
Vitamin B5
Hoodia Extract
Yohimbine HCL
TRx
Bioperine
Citrus Aurantium

is a good idea? do you think only like 15mg of yohimbine daily would yield any good results? I'm only about 140 lb.

Looks good. I've spoken to a few people who used the hoodia extract and noticed no appetite suppression at all, but if it's already in the product your using then go ahead and keep using it. (As long as you're not being ripped off with price) It would probably be cheaper to buy ephedrine/mahaung capsules and caffeine tablets along with the yohimbine and TRx. But if you find it easier to take an "all in one" product then that's fine as well....And 15mgs of yohimbine should be plenty for a 140lb female.
 
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