Simple first cycle help

[hooverdeuce]

Hey everyone, I've been lurking around for awhile and have actually researched aas etc for over a year now. I'm thinking about starting my first cycle of test e 250 mg week for 10-12 weeks. I want to keep this first cycle as simple as possible, fewest injections, safety first etc. Here's my stats

6'2", 180#, ~12% bf
bench 235
dead 365
squat 345

I've been training on and off since I was 15 and I'm 27 now. Only been going hard 5+ days a week for the last year so that's why I'm still small and my numbers are low compared to most of you guys.

Basically, I know this isn't an exact science, but what do you guys think the best pct would be for such a simple cycle? All answers are appreciated.

 

[Bigpimpin10]

search up the testosterone recovery stack...

and your first cycles perfect..

250-500mg/weekly...

 

[hooverdeuce]

Thanks, I was planning on trying out sustain at least but am more concerned with the chemical pct like what ai should i have on hand, adex or aromasin. should i run hcg and when, and if i should use nolva for pct or just one of the ai's, etc. Like I said, I know it's not an exact science but would like to hear some veterans input.

 

[10001110101]

best all around pct:

hcg 500iu/wk wks 4-12
aromasin 25mg ed weeks 13-16

if you can't get aromasin use arimidex at 1mg EOD.

i you can't get arimidex use nolva at 20mg ED.


it really is that simple.

 

[Olivelawn]

Thanks, I was planning on trying out sustain at least but am more concerned with the chemical pct like what ai should i have on hand, adex or aromasin. should i run hcg and when, and if i should use nolva for pct or just one of the ai's, etc. Like I said, I know it's not an exact science but would like to hear some veterans input.

HCG:
Upon notice of testicle atrophy use 500iu's HCG every week. 1 day after last injection use 1000iu's a day for 5 days straight.

Aromasin:
Use 13.5mg every other day from day one of your cycle throughout PCT and two weeks past clomid. This "have on hand just in case" which is preached on this board is a terrible idea.

Clomid:
10 days after last injection use clomid at 100mg clomid for 5 days and then drop down to 50mg for the next 2-3 weeks.

If you want to keep 90% of your gains or more run the clomid for 4 weeks. Take it before bed. Upon rising use 10mg d-bol. The d-bol will mimic the cycle and increase your red blood count quickly. The clomid will help you restore your natural test levels at night.

You can try that other stuff but I wouldn't use it alone, sure fire way to crash.

 

[hooverdeuce]

thanks 10001, i appreciate it. i can get whatever, that isn't a problem. i like the pct you made and think i will do something along those lines. my only concern is if i get any estrogen related sides while on should i have adex ready instead of aromasin? i've read that aromasin will completely block any estrogen thus hindering gains. also, did u say hcg for 4-12 weeks based on a 10 week or 12 week cycle? thanks

best all around pct:

hcg 500iu/wk wks 4-12
aromasin 25mg ed weeks 13-16

if you can't get aromasin use arimidex at 1mg EOD.

i you can't get arimidex use nolva at 20mg ED.


it really is that simple.

 

[Ezekiel]

best all around pct:

Hcg 500iu/wk wks 4-12
aromasin 25mg ed weeks 13-16

if you can't get aromasin use arimidex at 1mg eod.

I you can't get arimidex use nolva at 20mg ed.


It really is that simple.

+1

 

[hooverdeuce]

Thanks for the help olive. No disrespect, I'm sure you have more experience than me, but I'd rather not run aromasin during the cycle simply because I want to use the least amount of ancilliaries as possible and it's a strong medication which will block ALL estrogen.

HCG:
Upon notice of testicle atrophy use 500iu's HCG every week. 1 day after last injection use 1000iu's a day for 5 days straight.

Aromasin:
Use 13.5mg every other day from day one of your cycle throughout PCT and two weeks past clomid. This "have on hand just in case" which is preached on this board is a terrible idea.

Clomid:
10 days after last injection use clomid at 100mg clomid for 5 days and then drop down to 50mg for the next 2-3 weeks.

If you want to keep 90% of your gains or more run the clomid for 4 weeks. Take it before bed. Upon rising use 10mg d-bol. The d-bol will mimic the cycle and increase your red blood count quickly. The clomid will help you restore your natural test levels at night.

You can try that other stuff but I wouldn't use it alone, sure fire way to crash.

 

[bigtravis]

test-e or c 500/wk 8 wks
deca 300/wk. 8 wks
d-bol first 4 weeks
nolva on hand just in case of sides. no need until itching or tenderness in the nips

very basic good luck

 

[hooverdeuce]

whoa buddy. this is my first cycle, im sticking to test only 250 mg/wk, just getting my pct together.