Side effects are way over rated...

[BigAndy69]

Everyone has heard those horror stories about guys dropping dead in there mid 20's from heart attacks, guys on dialysis in there early 30's...

I think overall, people are worried too much about side effects.

Most of us here are fairly well educated on AS. Even newbies on this board know more about gear than most AS users.

I know quite a few meatheads.

N N
used 8grams of Test a week, 18ius of GH ED to prepare for a contest. He finished dead last.

He also does not train his legs and was still drinking heavily a few weeks before the show.

Sells fake gear at the local gyms.

N M

cocaine addict, on year round

S M

cocaine and G addict, gym dealer, on clenbuterol YEAR ROUND

His skin is light yellow, will cycle between 100-500mcg of Clen year round. Stutters and shakes uncontrollably.

D G

Uses V as he calls it(ie winny) pretty much 80-90% of the year, doses 50-100mg ED.

D C

Woman
Ms Olympia competitor, loved the old Spectro Trenbolone stacked with some winny.

S S

Bought some bunk suspension called spectro-vet, shot it about 7-10 times. Fainted a few times, kept going. He was rushed to the hospital by his sister (my friend) He had 5 abscesses all over his body and the infection was going to spread to his lungs and heart.

J P

Runs deca year round going up to as much as 1500mg a week, takes viagra pretty much everyday and he parties hard.

Most of these guys except for 1, D G, do not get blood tests. D G got a blood test done, his liver values were through the roof, he didn't know it was the winny until I told him.

I could go on...my point is be careful but don't stay up at night wondering if 500mg of test for 8 weeks is going to kill you

 

[THEEGAME2544]

Good Post Andy! Couldn't be more true

 

[Spidey]

Very true but.....

You certainly have to take your genetics into account. There ARE some risks associated with steroid use.

Example:
I have a friend who has a genetic predisposition to clotting. He has done two cycles of tren/test and tren/test/dbol with absolutely rediculous doses (150 mg tren and 200mg test prop ed on his first cycle). The ability of most steroids to increase clotting factors as well as red counts is pretty well accepted I think and it wasn't a stellar decision on his part to take them. He nearly died of a heart attack a couple of months ago at 35 yrs old. He developed a blood clot that blocked one of his coronary arteries 99%. If he wasn't literally AT the hospital at the time, he may not have survived.

 

[needsize]

I recently finished a 7 month cycle where I was averaging around 2 grams of stuff per week. Blood tests were done every 1-2 months, and everything checked out in the normal range. So I have to agree, where are these nasty side effects I keep hearing about

 

[Anakin]

Well even if liver values and lipids and those kinds of side effects can be kept in check, one issue remains...

Do you want to give up your balls forever? My main concern would be permanent damage to the HPTA. Needsize, if I'm not mistaken you're currently "off cycle" but you're still bridging, so your HPTA must be shut down. And congratulations for the future baby, but what if you couldn't have done it without the hcg?

I guess that if people don't care about being on HRT when HPTA suffers permanent damage, then the other side effects can be controlled and there is no problem.

 

[BigAndy69]

Well even if liver values and lipids and those kinds of side effects can be kept in check, one issue remains...

Do you want to give up your balls forever? My main concern would be permanent damage to the HPTA. Needsize, if I'm not mistaken you're currently "off cycle" but you're still bridging, so your HPTA must be shut down. And congratulations for the future baby, but what if you couldn't have done it without the hcg?

I guess that if people don't care about being on HRT when HPTA suffers permanent damage, then the other side effects can be controlled and there is no problem.

I'm not saying there are no serious side effects (if you plan on using steroids for hardcore BBing you have to accept this fact), I'm talking about guys who see people using 1000-1500mg a week and think that these guys are going to drop dead

 

[ex-infantry]

i agree and disagree at the same time BA... like your friend S M, i was an abuser of 1 of the items he did (not coke) and abused for about 4-5 months... ran out, and had some very real withdrawl symptoms... all i can really say is if it looks to good to be true, then it probably is... i believe it really does have everything to do with genetic make up and the individual... some people can take everything while someone might freak out and catch a panic attack off 2 tabs of clen... start slow, make every attempt to know your body, go to the doc for blood work, and be safe... its a marathon, not a sprint. having a great body or partying all the time means nothing if you lose everything important to you in the process to get there. sorry for the rant... just oversensative since what happened to me... take care of yourself, and eachother too(stole that from jerry springer, lol)

 

[DeepZenPill]

250mg of test a week gives me gyno and makes my hair fall out like crazy.

Yes, some sides are overrated, but others are overlooked, such as lipid profile.

I think with the general public sides are extremely overrated, but if you're going to be smart about using, you have to be aware of the potential for many sides.

 

[psychedout]

250mg of test a week gives me gyno and makes my hair fall out like crazy.

Yes, some sides are overrated, but others are overlooked, such as lipid profile.

I think with the general public sides are extremely overrated, but if you're going to be smart about using, you have to be aware of the potential for many sides.

I agree almost all sides are overated. Lipid profile is one that is definetly underated by most.

 

[needsize]

Well even if liver values and lipids and those kinds of side effects can be kept in check, one issue remains...

Do you want to give up your balls forever? My main concern would be permanent damage to the HPTA. Needsize, if I'm not mistaken you're currently "off cycle" but you're still bridging, so your HPTA must be shut down. And congratulations for the future baby, but what if you couldn't have done it without the hcg?

I guess that if people don't care about being on HRT when HPTA suffers permanent damage, then the other side effects can be controlled and there is no problem.

too be honest I'm not really very concerned about permanent HPTA damage. Worst case scenario, if I did do permanent damage, I already have my family so thats not a problem. But I doubt that permanent damage will occur with the regular use of hcg (my Dr is of the same opinion). And yes I am still briding, right now with 10mg of var, 2iu of jintropin, and humalin r, so I have no doubts my HPTA is back to normal

 

[Fukkenshredded]

Side effects are overrated until they happen to you.

 

[Outtlaw]

As all doctors know, the side effects are always overexagerated on medications. That doesnt mean they cant happen, but they always give you the worst possible senario.

 

[ex-infantry]

"Side effects are overrated until they happen to you."


AMEN

IMHO you could not be more right FS

 

[rvd_brock]

Everyone has heard those horror stories about guys dropping dead in there mid 20's from heart attacks, guys on dialysis in there early 30's...

I think overall, people are worried too much about side effects.

Most of us here are fairly well educated on AS. Even newbies on this board know more about gear than most AS users.

I know quite a few meatheads.

N N
used 8grams of Test a week, 18ius of GH ED to prepare for a contest. He finished dead last.

He also does not train his legs and was still drinking heavily a few weeks before the show.

Sells fake gear at the local gyms.

N M

cocaine addict, on year round

S M

cocaine and G addict, gym dealer, on clenbuterol YEAR ROUND

His skin is light yellow, will cycle between 100-500mcg of Clen year round. Stutters and shakes uncontrollably.

D G

Uses V as he calls it(ie winny) pretty much 80-90% of the year, doses 50-100mg ED.

D C

Woman
Ms Olympia competitor, loved the old Spectro Trenbolone stacked with some winny.

S S

Bought some bunk suspension called spectro-vet, shot it about 7-10 times. Fainted a few times, kept going. He was rushed to the hospital by his sister (my friend) He had 5 abscesses all over his body and the infection was going to spread to his lungs and heart.

J P

Runs deca year round going up to as much as 1500mg a week, takes viagra pretty much everyday and he parties hard.

Most of these guys except for 1, D G, do not get blood tests. D G got a blood test done, his liver values were through the roof, he didn't know it was the winny until I told him.

I could go on...my point is be careful but don't stay up at night wondering if 500mg of test for 8 weeks is going to kill you

8 grams of test a week??!?!? I didn't know there were people around this fucking stupid.

 

[BigAndy69]

250mg of test a week gives me gyno and makes my hair fall out like crazy.

Yes, some sides are overrated, but others are overlooked, such as lipid profile.

I think with the general public sides are extremely overrated, but if you're going to be smart about using, you have to be aware of the potential for many sides.

Same thing with test for me...

FS, you are right, but this post is not about intelligent AS use..I'm just trying to point out that there are a LOT of dumb users when it comes to AS.

People who cycle on and off, use ancillaries, get blood tests done, stay away from rec drugs and alcohol are not at the same level of risk as these idiots (ie regular gyn users)

Doesn't mean intelligent users can experience bad side effects

 

[Tarheel]

I've heard rumors of people using the implant gun to take Tren, that didn't seem to smart to me. Sadly, I've never actually met someone who has done this so it may just be an urban (gym) legend.

 

[Lenas25]

Guys, you are all right with some things being overrated, but my being finished with my first cycle my hair is still falling out even though im using all the things i can to stop it.

Test kills it for me, gives me strength, size but kills my hair and skin. As they said up there, the sides are overrated UNTIL they happen to you.

Im not saying you'll drop dead and stuff but ball shrinkage, acne and hair loss are something to think about as well as mood swings. (i knocked my boss out unconcious)

 

[tiger88]

i am worried more about the legal aspects at this point.,.....i dont use much gear

 

[BigAndy69]

You guys are talking about hairloss and acne, I'm talking about kidney failure, liver failure, heart attack, etc...

I'd say 98% of steroid users do not get regular blood tests. I know many guys who have juiced for over a decade and have never had a blood test

 

[gunner44]

I recently finished a 7 month cycle where I was averaging around 2 grams of stuff per week. Blood tests were done every 1-2 months, and everything checked out in the normal range. So I have to agree, where are these nasty side effects I keep hearing about

2 Grams per week and your blood work was in the normal range?

Must be in the lower part of the normal range?

Man, you must be blessed. Wish I could get away with that. My lipids just go in the tolit as soon as i look at gear!!LOL

Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

You guys are talking about hairloss and acne, I'm talking about kidney failure, liver failure, heart attack, etc...

Word.
When my Kidneys went tits-up last year at this time... my Doctor automatically jumped down my throat and said it was all the AAS I've used. It wasn't until an investigation was conducted by specialists that revealed it was dirty HCG as the culprit. It caused a urinary tract infection... my immune system attacked my Kidneys and damaged them. It had nothing to do with steroids.

A lot of people see a very muscular guy... and make comments like "He'll be dead in 5 years."

Its the epitome of ignorance.

 

[needsize]

2 Grams per week and your blood work was in the normal range?

Must be in the lower part of the normal range?

Man, you must be blessed. Wish I could get away with that. My lipids just go in the tolit as soon as i look at gear!!LOL

Enjoy it while it lasts.

it helps that I live the lifestyle too. Dont touch drugs, dont drink, basically dont do much other than hang with my wife and try to get big