Sick and Need Advice

[semper03]

I started my SARM cycle GW and MK on the 12th of this month and recently I've been sick as shit. It only happens at night before bed. I get this really bloated feeling with my stomach turning then I spend the next hour laying in front of my toilet.

I changed my diet last month to primarily vegetarian eating meat once or twice a week. I also have a vitamix and make spinach smoothies three times a week. Other than that nothing's changed.

GW 20mg split am/PM
MK 25mg

 

[RickRock13]

Re: Sick on SARMS

Sounds to me like its digestive issues associated with your diet changes. With meat once or twice per week, where is all of your protein coming from?

 

[semper03]

Sounds to me like its digestive issues associated with your diet changes. With meat once or twice per week, where is all of your protein coming from?

Peanut butter, tuna and shakes. Was eating chicken but it's been killing my stomach lately.

 

[Jbranken]

Re: Sick on SARMS

I had a few stomach issues when starting LGD at the beginning of the month but it went away. I would almost attribute it to the potency. The sarm was much thicker and stronger tasting than anything Ive used in the past

 

[Shrine1]

Re: Sick on SARMS

No issues for me

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[semper03]

So in going to the doc to get a series of tests run. I only get sick at night and after I eat carbs i.e. Pasta, pancakes ect. I also get so damn tired I can't keep my eyes open. Something's going on with my BS so I wanna know for sure what it is. Also I have the most insane bloat going on its insane. I look pregnant.

I'll update once my results come back.

 

[stevesmi]

Re: Sick on SARMS

are you consumning dairy before bed? also you could have IBS and spicy food can trigger it.

 

[semper03]

are you consumning dairy before bed? also you could have IBS and spicy food can trigger it.

Sometimes I'll drink a glass of 1% milk before bed. I get insane heartburn after eating spicy food. I eat 4 1000mg antacids just to stop the burn.

 

[ha1a1]

Re: Sick on SARMS

I has something similar but it was a while back and I was not any SARMS. It was really annoying. You may need to experiment with food for a bit and find what doesn't upset you. I had tried going on unpasteurized unhomogenised organic goat milk and that made me sick for about 4 months after consuming just 2 liters over 2 weeks. I dont touch dairy or grain anymore and im all good.

 

[hurricane]

Re: Sick on SARMS

I started my SARM cycle GW and MK on the 12th of this month and recently I've been sick as shit. It only happens at night before bed. I get this really bloated feeling with my stomach turning then I spend the next hour laying in front of my toilet.

I changed my diet last month to primarily vegetarian eating meat once or twice a week. I also have a vitamix and make spinach smoothies three times a week. Other than that nothing's changed.

GW 20mg split am/PM
MK 25mg

its the diet bro.. i tried the raw diet, which consists of all raw vegs/ fruits and i have a vitamix also.And i expected to feel GREAT but i felt sick to my stomach.Its your body adjusting to the diet change.In the long run you will feel better but it takes an adjustment period.

 

[semper03]

I got looked at and the doc said I have Gastroesophageal reflux. Gave me some meds for it to shut down the acid pumps in my stomach. Also the diet switch messed up my digestive tract. That's what was causing the the bad bloat. Something to do with bacteria in the bottom of my intestines. They have me on bacteria cultures to get me regular again.

As for what I put in my smoothies.
1 orange
1/4 cup apple concentrate
1/4 cup pineapple
1/4 cup honey dew
2 cups baby spinach

 

[Jbranken]

Re: Sick on SARMS

Wow, that's crazy... Hope you start feeling better

 

[stevesmi]

Re: Sick on SARMS

Sometimes I'll drink a glass of 1% milk before bed. I get insane heartburn after eating spicy food. I eat 4 1000mg antacids just to stop the burn.

well there you go.

spicy food fucks me up bigtime, I eat everything plain for this reason for the most part.. today I got a chicken from the grocery store that had spices on it and cooked that.. then I worked out after and my workout was shit.. I kept burping the whole way there and in between sets..

i'm not saying stay away from spicy food totally, but atleast before bed and before a workout eat plain as you can

 

[stevesmi]

Re: Sick on SARMS

I got looked at and the doc said I have Gastroesophageal reflux. Gave me some meds for it to shut down the acid pumps in my stomach.

I would toss those meds.. you don't want to shut off the acid in your stomach at all here. you just want to avoid things that send acid north.

plus those meds can end up backfiring on you because with no acid in your stomach that's gonna fuck up your digestion more long term than help.

those anti-acid meds are the most over prescribed junk that docs hand out, even more than anti-biotics. its hilarious how they hand them to you everytime you go in .. I have a whole drawer of them that I have racked up between me and girls I have dated. and to be honest they don't do shit to solve your problem, they just cover it up!

 

[Shrine1]

Re: Sick on SARMS

I would toss those meds.. you don't want to shut off the acid in your stomach at all here. you just want to avoid things that send acid north.

plus those meds can end up backfiring on you because with no acid in your stomach that's gonna fuck up your digestion more long term than help.

those anti-acid meds are the most over prescribed junk that docs hand out, even more than anti-biotics. its hilarious how they hand them to you everytime you go in .. I have a whole drawer of them that I have racked up between me and girls I have dated. and to be honest they don't do shit to solve your problem, they just cover it up!

I agree with steve.. overtime they just become ineffective. I have a cousin that has it pretty severe and his meds dont do jack squat now

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[lander2312]

Re: Sick on SARMS

Hold on guys. How in good conscience can you tell him to trash the meds? A real doctor ran test and prescribed him, what in his medical opinion, is best. Given the fact he has actually seen him in person and actually ran medical test I feel he is best to know here.
With that said how can you stop eating meat and go all veggie and not expect some type of diet issues? You mention in your post thats the only thing different...but damn that is a huge difference. you body is like WTF? With no meat I am sure you prob do have too much acid...cause you dont need as much to break down the veggies as you do meat. I am no doctor and to be honest dont have any advice on the meds. If you were fine before then I guess you could go back to your previous diet. Keep in mind going back will cause stomach issues too. Either way you will prob have more discomfort for at least a month. Good luck and hope you get to feeling better.

 

[Shrine1]

Re: Sick on SARMS

Hold on guys. How in good conscience can you tell him to trash the meds? A real doctor ran test and prescribed him, what in his medical opinion, is best. Given the fact he has actually seen him in person and actually ran medical test I feel he is best to know here.
With that said how can you stop eating meat and go all veggie and not expect some type of diet issues? You mention in your post thats the only thing different...but damn that is a huge difference. you body is like WTF? With no meat I am sure you prob do have too much acid...cause you dont need as much to break down the veggies as you do meat. I am no doctor and to be honest dont have any advice on the meds. If you were fine before then I guess you could go back to your previous diet. Keep in mind going back will cause stomach issues too. Either way you will prob have more discomfort for at least a month. Good luck and hope you get to feeling better.

There is more knowledge on this forum then alot of doctors even have. Doctors also subscribe 23yr old kids to TRT instead of getting to the root of the problem. Drs are there to make money. I also have a doctor that subscribed my wife to synthetic T3 as oppossed to Armour which is natural. So in all honesty drs are full of shit. I hear where you are coming from, but im sure they dont know of his use of AAS. You dont have to take advise from anyone and apply it, but take information from multiple sources and then make a educated decision

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[Reps For Jesus]

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There is more knowledge on this forum then alot of doctors even have. Doctors also subscribe 23yr old kids to TRT instead of getting to the root of the problem. Drs are there to make money. I also have a doctor that subscribed my wife to synthetic T3 as oppossed to Armour which is natural. So in all honesty drs are full of shit. I hear where you are coming from, but im sure they dont know of his use of AAS. You dont have to take advise from anyone and apply it, but take information from multiple sources and then make a educated decision

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No.. you should 100% listen to your doctor. Or seek another opinion from another doctor. 15 years of medical school has given them more info then what you've read with a google search the last 2 years.

 

[Shrine1]

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No.. you should 100% listen to your doctor. Or seek another opinion from another doctor. 15 years of medical school has given them more info then what you've read with a google search the last 2 years.

Im not saying dont listen to your doctor.. im saying get more then one opinion

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[lander2312]

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why would you go to your doctor with a serious medical issue and not tell him you are on AAS? That seems crazy to me because the AAS could play a role in the problem. I agree that an informed patient is a true asset to a doctor but man this forum is not the place to gather life and death information. I have watched for years as people vomit the information that they read on "some internet" board or google search. Only to be "parroting" some internet guru who sits in his moms basement trying to sound smart.

OP if you have not given all the information needed to your doctor then please do. I hope its just your extreme diet change but if not then he need to know everything to make sure its not much...much more serious.

 

[MaxxReps]

Re: Sick on SARMS

Nothing wrong with using a antacid on occasion or a ppi for a short term to get things in order but longer term use should be avoided. Among other reasons ph changes in the stomach can adversely affect nutrient uptake. They should not be used as a crutch to mask poor dietary habits.

But it is important to control reflux. I know someone very well that had bad reflux for years and now has the sphincter in their esophagus burned and virtually useless and the stomach acid caused displasia in the esophagus which is essentially precancerous cells and spots need to be cut out every 6 months and cauterized. Not fun.


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[semper03]

I am very upfront with my doc. She knows all the supps and gear I've ever taken. I know you can't be properly diagnosed if hiding shit.

The diet change wasn't really on purpose. I just sort of fell into it. I'm gonna introduce meat back into my diet more than I have been. I took one pill last night and one today and all the bloat I had went away and my throat doesn't hurt.

I was bad guys. The bloat was so bad I looked pregnant, I couldn't take a deep breath, when I would lay down I would spit up and eventually puke. I normally don't take meds but had no choice here.

 

[semper03]

***UPDATE***

Been taking the meds for almost a week now. I feel so much better. I still get a little sick from certain foods at night but for the most part I'm good to go now. Very little bloat and no longer puking.

 

[hurricane]

Re: Sick on SARMS

***UPDATE***

Been taking the meds for almost a week now. I feel so much better. I still get a little sick from certain foods at night but for the most part I'm good to go now. Very little bloat and no longer puking.

thanks for the update bro, glad you are feeling better

 

[semper03]

fenadine was the meds. As long as I stay away from certain foods I'm good. Never go full pussy and switch to vegetarian diet like I did lol fucked my shit all up. The Bactria crap they have me for my intestines cleared me out something wicked. Lol

 

[stevesmi]

Re: Sick on SARMS

***UPDATE***

Been taking the meds for almost a week now. I feel so much better. I still get a little sick from certain foods at night but for the most part I'm good to go now. Very little bloat and no longer puking.

well like I said the meds will help short term cover up your problem. but what happens when you eventually come off the meds? your problem will be 100X worse.

I been there and done that bro.. you either have a bigger condition that is going on (I hope this isn't the case), or you need to learn to avoid foods that fuck you up.

all your doctor did here was hand you a drug to get you out of his office and then call it a day. he did nothing to solve your problem long term, and why should he? he makes more money when you keep coming back .. now the next problem you might have is this current drug you are taking is going to cause more side effects, then he will put you on yet another drug to cover that up too.. and the domino effect goes on and on.

 

[stevesmi]

Re: Sick on SARMS

Hold on guys. How in good conscience can you tell him to trash the meds? A real doctor ran test and prescribed him, what in his medical opinion, is best. Given the fact he has actually seen him in person and actually ran medical test I feel he is best to know here.
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the OP is young, healthy and has no medical problem and doesn't need to be on meds for life.. that's my point.

he is smart enough to separate foods that bother him from foods that don't. there was a time in this country where nobody took meds, now everyone takes a pill for every ill.

I love dairy, spicy food, red meat, etc etc. but the shit FUCKS me up when I eat them. hence I avoid them as much as possible. do you really think that all these heartburn and acid reflux commercials on tv are normal digestive problems in the human body? NO, its the culture of eating whatever we want, whenever we want and covering up the problem with drugs. there was also a time in this country people did not eat before bed, now its common place to sit in front of your tv with a 5 course meal and eat before bed.. and people wonder why they wake up at night with heartburn. well duh.. connect the dots.

problem is its considered 'cool' and 'normal' to have heartburn. and you have larry the cable guy on tv 100X per day advertising for those drugs.. if you are getting chronic heartburn that is NOT normal. and if you have to take a drug everyday for it that isn't normal either

you can call me a moron and an idiot all you want but that is the truth.. problem is people don't want to accept the truth.. walk into a walmart sometime and count up how many fat people you see, then look at the food in their cart, and then notice how there are OTC heartburn drugs as soon as you walk into the food section of the store. do you not see a connection there?

 

[semper03]

I'm with you Steve. I love dairy, meats, coffee and habanero peppers but they gives me the worst heartburn. I'm good as long as I avoid them within 3 hours of bed for the most part. I've taken them for a week and am about to stop just so I don't get dependent.