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JKurz1

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assuming your diet is on point......what aas would you say shreds you like no other? excluding gh.....tren?
 
solidspine said:
Primo works on a reduced calorie diet, the only gear I know that does this.
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agreed but it does not give that tight shredded look tren does to me i can always tell a guy on tren he is alot harder than someone on primo
 
tren, hands down. if you're a seasoned player go with 100mg tren ace ED and just enough test prop to keep your dick in working order, maybe 50mg ED. You'll get strong and lean up - assuming your diet is in check as you said.
 
agreed but it does not give that tight shredded look tren does to me i can always tell a guy on tren he is alot harder than someone on primo
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Agreed, I am on second week of 100mg ED Tren/Test sides are kicking in big time.
 
tren ace? at whaat dose? 75mg eod? does it work on a high calorie diet too? clean diet of course....my buddy is about 10 % he's taking in bout 4000 calories at 210lbs he's cut but not truly shredded...needs to get down to 8 % what would u say test cyp at 500mg week with 400mg eq and 75, of tren eod?
 
The best shredding combination is Tren/Test/Masteron.. If you don't want to inject another AAS like Masteron go with some provirion. I, however, am a big fan of Masteron..

50-100mg of Test Prop/d
75-100 Tren/d
75-100 mg Masteron/d

PF has a beautiful triblend of these exactly three compounds... hmmmmmmmm....

T-Matt
 
JKurz1 said:
tren ace? at whaat dose? 75mg eod? does it work on a high calorie diet too? clean diet of course....my buddy is about 10 % he's taking in bout 4000 calories at 210lbs he's cut but not truly shredded...needs to get down to 8 % what would u say test cyp at 500mg week with 400mg eq and 75, of tren eod?
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I'd go 100 mg per day of prop and 100mg tren ace. That'd be the ticket for him
 
solidspine said:
Primo works on a reduced calorie diet, the only gear I know that does this.
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Primo builds muscle on a caloric restricted diet. As far as what gear worked best. Real Syntex Masteron with the skull and cross bones was fucking awsome. WAY WAY WAY better than tren! Way! And REAL Parabolin...fuggetaboutit! I am going to convert these two from powder for Jr USA's along with Primo soooo we will see how this goes. I did all the real stuff in the 90's via a european friend of mine. Was like nothing else. But of what is avaliable Tren would be the best bet as Primo is often bunk on the black market.

Q.
 
solidspine said:
Agreed, I am on second week of 100mg ED Tren/Test sides are kicking in big time.
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Which of the list of many sides are you getting? I know it's different for everyone but I'm looking to cycle tren/test in late winter and am curious.
 
T-Matt said:
The best shredding combination is Tren/Test/Masteron.. If you don't want to inject another AAS like Masteron go with some provirion. I, however, am a big fan of Masteron..

50-100mg of Test Prop/d
75-100 Tren/d
75-100 mg Masteron/d

PF has a beautiful triblend of these exactly three compounds... hmmmmmmmm....

T-Matt
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that sounds ideal, however didn't ou say you've taken it and you've never beeen shredded, so I am confused....you see it work on others?
 
I always liked a tren/winny stack for hardness. A bit rough on the joints though.
 
JKurz1 said:
that sounds ideal, however didn't ou say you've taken it and you've never beeen shredded, so I am confused....you see it work on others?
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LOL..

No, I"m not 6'2" 165 like you, so no, I guess I have never been 'shredded' lol.. I have been 260 at 12% bodyfat. During that cycle my body went from 248 @ 15% to 260 @ 12%.. I have just recently learned what works best for my body. I have just recently found out that I have a lot of sulfase in my body. I'm going to take care of that problem, do more cardio and I will get under 10% bodyfat.

So, no, I have never been as 'shredded' as you, and yes, I have seen it work extremely well on other people. I think I'm doing pretty well considering I was 5'9" 317 45% bodyfat my freshman year of high school....

T-Matt
 
I think you are too tmatt, and that slam was pretty much uncalled for...all I said was you used it and never been shredded then how the hell do you know it works UNLESS youve seen it work for others, which is what u said.........

the reason I asked was that many say mast is JUNK unless you are sub9%....
 
JKurz1 said:
I think you are too tmatt, and that slam was pretty much uncalled for...all I said was you used it and never been shredded then how the hell do you know it works UNLESS youve seen it work for others, which is what u said.........

the reason I asked was that many say mast is JUNK unless you are sub9%....
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Agreed. Who wants to bust their add every day to be big and fat?
 
haha, it's called for, believe me.. Quad is giving you great advice in your other thread and you're not fucking listening, you're over there whining and complaining and questioning it.

Again, I have always had a problem with midsection fat. My extremities are all sub 10% but then you get around my midsection and it's over 15% pushing my overall bf% over 10%.

I know my shit and I apply it. I have just always had problems getting rid of the last bit of fat around my midsection due terrible insulin sensitivity, cortisol levels, and sulfase, and aromatase. I have just recently learned how to suppress and control these issues.

We are all here to look good naked, I look good naked now, I want to look great and I will. I learned more here at EF than I have 6 years at T-Nation. I don't whine about shit, I tell people like it is, I'm successful, and I enjoy seeing others succeed more than I do myself. Life is simple, keep it that way. Eat smart, train hard, rest, take tren/test/masteron and be shredded.. SIMPLE..

T-Matt
 
Hey bro....thanks for the reply, but you can pm if you want to talk about stuff other than the subject at hand....it's a aas shredded question, let's not derail it....obviously it's not a post FOR ME, bt for informational purposes.....let's keep to the topic....come over to my thread if you wanna cry....
 
why do you guys say that primobolan works on a calorie restrict diet? what have primo that other AAS havent? are there any studies that back up that "myth" about primo?
 
BrownDevil said:
And so it continues...I still call bullshit on Jkurz' avatar.
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thnx for the compliment u jealous idiot.....lol yeah I photocropped my 170lbs abs lol u canucks have alwys been jealous of ameicans everyome here knows me they know its real and I got nothing to hide.....wait till march those abs are hidden rt now but ull be wadhin your clothes on them after winter when I step offstage.....if quadsweep let's u use them of course.....dirty canuck lol
 
Why would you call bullshit. That's him. One day his story will be inspiration to all of us. You should read it, then apologize to him.
 
I'm kinda surprised I'm seeing more peoplesay masteron is a better drug for cutting/hardening then winny. I know winny has more sides but but with the exception to tren (which i haven't done yet) nothing makes me harder then winny.

I would think the best cutter would be prop/tren/winny/proviron period
 
wags8 said:
Why would you call bullshit. That's him. One day his story will be inspiration to all of us. You should read it, then apologize to him.
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don't waste your time brutha....he's from another board and visits here abot once a year with some demeaning post to me.....one of my haters, but I'm over it.....he offers no useful advice, just a hater...it's all good....Ive never ever lied nor posted bullshit on here....you know me....str8 from the heart....

Thanks for all on this post subject, seems like master and tren are the wa to go once I get up to 250lbs!!!!! Actually, info relayed to my partner who's got a show in a few months.....he was set on tren, I think this concluded it.
 
I think his avatar is real...looks just like a skinny bitch to me. Is that some gyno I see developing around your right nipple? Better up the pct to 4 almonds a day.
 
How do we stop people from posting under different nicks?? Seriously have nothing better to do....truly sad...
 
hurley11 said:
I think his avatar is real...looks just like a skinny bitch to me. Is that some gyno I see developing around your right nipple? Better up the pct to 4 almonds a day.
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You should ask your overweight mother why she enjoys sucking cock of ripped skinny dudes......is it for drugs?
 
JKurz1 said:
You should ask your overweight mother why she enjoys sucking cock of ripped skinny dudes......is it for drugs?
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Bro don't let them get you bent out of shape.
 
T-Matt said:
Again, I have always had a problem with midsection fat. My extremities are all sub 10% but then you get around my midsection and it's over 15% pushing my overall bf% over 10%.

I know my shit and I apply it. I have just always had problems getting rid of the last bit of fat around my midsection due terrible insulin sensitivity, cortisol levels, and sulfase, and aromatase. I have just recently learned how to suppress and control these issues. Eat smart, train hard, rest, take tren/test/masteron and be shredded.. SIMPLE..

T-Matt
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ur an Ecto I assume?

Sounds like my story. no problems getting rid of love handles and lower ab fat etc etc, only center belly fat is a problem - and bloat from lactose intolerence whenever I have whey or milk protein makes it looks worse than it is.-

What did you do to control the issues T-matt??
 
LMAO! Jkurz, can ya just feel the envy pouring out of some of these people?! You're lookin fuckin great bro and just like everybody else said, TREN! Ignore the haters and enjoy their jelousy!

Chris
 
Thanks boys....I';m not looking great...My abs back in OCCTOBER were tight but I was and still am a s=kinny bitch.....now witht the added cals, those abs are gone, 2 pack left....pretty frusterating but this is the "ugly" stage...you know, the phase between ripped and mass.? It is not normal to have those tight abs in the evening after eating and drinking all day....HOWEVER, I know how to diet, I'll get em back....right? Esp. with tren? lol......you guys all lose em too?
 
Mavafanculo said:
ur an Ecto I assume?

Sounds like my story. no problems getting rid of love handles and lower ab fat etc etc, only center belly fat is a problem - and bloat from lactose intolerence whenever I have whey or milk protein makes it looks worse than it is.-

What did you do to control the issues T-matt??
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Man, brotha, I have the EXACT same problems!!! I am not alone!!

My above recipe plus 'var, AIFM, Dostinex, r-ALA, Yohimburn ES, and Oxycalm (for cortisol suppression)

T-Matt
 
Do you own stock in the AF store?

Playing.....great stuff.........I want to try that oxycalm.....right now all I got is oxycotin
 
T-Matt said:
Man, brotha, I have the EXACT same problems!!! I am not alone!!

My above recipe plus 'var, AIFM, Dostinex, r-ALA, Yohimburn ES, and Oxycalm (for cortisol suppression)

T-Matt
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why the dostinex?

yeah I need to read up on oxycalm too.

you mite also try Glutamine 10g brkfst/lunch/dinner and same before workouts and bed. great cortisol suppressor and recovery agent - especially for those prone to overtraining (ie ecto's lol) - I've made great gains since starting it
 
Mavafanculo said:
why the dostinex?

yeah I need to read up on oxycalm too.

you mite also try Glutamine 10g brkfst/lunch/dinner and same before workouts and bed. great cortisol suppressor and recovery agent - especially for those prone to overtraining (ie ecto's lol) - I've made great gains since starting it
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Dostinex helps with Prolactin. I have progesterone issues as well..

I'll definitely give the Glutamine a try, thanks bro!

T-Matt
 
All you guys getting bent out of shape need to realize something... Kurz has been asking the same damn questions for years now... he NEVER listens to advice and is either an anorexic who refuses to get help or an idiot who likes clowning others...

We tried for months to help this guy and finally banned him when the "eat more" advice took a backseat to his obsession with measuring his teaspoons of PB and eating handfuls of almonds and steel cut oats, rather than bulking properly....

I guarantee you that in one year, Jkurz will NOT be over 175, nor was he ever a 245lb fucking football player...

Sorry for clogging up the board with this shit, but you guys need to see the forest for the trees... I would have had no problem with the guy if he actually LISTENED to ANY advice we had given him, but, rather than take advice from guys like me, who actually made the transformation from 130lb stickman to a 270lb pro wrestler(who still had abs, btw J) he shit on all of us and got cocky...

You guys have no problem with his seeing a therapist and being cured in 2 weeks?

Give your heads a shake and either start giving the tough love that he deserves or be burnt like everyone else has...

Just my 2 cents... but what do I know...
 
I only read a few pages of his shit and felt he needed therapy not EF, then I lost interest in the story because he was not listening to people telling him to eat. That was a couple months ago.
 
is Manorexia that much of a problem? eat good and work out consistantly. If you want to boost your self image you don't need no damn therapist, just go to the mall and watch all the fat cows milling around mindlessly as they stuff their faces, and send their body fat % up to the 20, 30% range and on
 
sofakingdel said:
is Manorexia that much of a problem? eat good and work out consistantly. If you want to boost your self image you don't need no damn therapist, just go to the mall and watch all the fat cows milling around mindlessly as they stuff their faces, and send their body fat % up to the 20, 30% range and on
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Its called "haters"....lol...I love it....150 posts yet he knows me.....scumbag.
 
Heres a quote from Jkurz from December 1, 2004... 2 friggin years ago... sound familiar? I DO know you, J...

I'm way too strict and it's hurting my efforts.........I havent cheated/fast food in over 5 years, so I have no idea on how to bust through this platuea....could you give me some advice on what to eat and what times, adjusting my current outline? Much thanks!

Obviously, I have too much time on my hands... BUT, your M.O. has always intrigued me, Kurz...
 
You are the difinition of a true hater....get a friggn life dude....you are folloing me like some sort of queer as stalker....do you know how bad this makes you look? Slam me is one thing, but stalking???? Lol......you are scary.....I gotta call in the big dawgs to handle this.

BTW - I'm str8 dude.....got a girl, so hit someone else....
 
JKurz1 said:
You are the difinition of a true hater....get a friggn life dude....you are folloing me like some sort of queer as stalker....do you know how bad this makes you look? Slam me is one thing, but stalking???? Lol......you are scary.....I gotta call in the big dawgs to handle this.

BTW - I'm str8 dude.....got a girl, so hit someone else....
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But bro, deep down inside he knows that you are truely in love with him as much as he is in love with you.
 
JKurz1 said:
You are the difinition of a true hater....get a friggn life dude....you are folloing me like some sort of queer as stalker....do you know how bad this makes you look? Slam me is one thing, but stalking???? Lol......you are scary.....I gotta call in the big dawgs to handle this.

BTW - I'm str8 dude.....got a girl, so hit someone else....
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you got serious fucking problems. You are so fucked up that you WANT people to stalk you and envy you, when in all reality you are an ingorant cockface that nobody cares about. Get a life man, and get over yourself.
 
GymIntensity said:
you got serious fucking problems. You are so fucked up that you WANT people to stalk you and envy you, when in all reality you are an ingorant cockface that nobody cares about. Get a life man, and get over yourself.
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:heart:
 
JKurz you come across as very immature but you are compelling viewing like a bad soap - you know dramatic, overbearing, irrational but people still tune in on a daily basis!!

I used to row with JKurz about this stuff!!! Same qu's over and over waiting till someone gave him the answer he wants but now TRY and leave it alone now, I am enjoying his training thread, its compelling viewing. Keep it going bro!!
 
maccer said:
JKurz you come across as very immature but you are compelling viewing like a bad soap - you know dramatic, overbearing, irrational but people still tune in on a daily basis!!

I used to row with JKurz about this stuff!!! Same qu's over and over waiting till someone gave him the answer he wants but now TRY and leave it alone now, I am enjoying his training thread, its compelling viewing. Keep it going bro!!
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maccer...oove ya bro....thanks for showing everyone your true colors and how much u envy me....
 
Hey dude i'm not trying to hate or slam on you. I was just saying in todays society you should feel good to be in such good shape. I see people all the time that have health issues because they are overweight, and its rare to see a MAN suffering from being underweight. I'm not saying I know you or anything but I'd rather cram a fat steak down my throat to save my life and gain some weight then eat lettuce and broccoli, or get my friggin stomach stapled to lose weight and save my life
JKurz1 said:
Its called "haters"....lol...I love it....150 posts yet he knows me.....scumbag.
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bigdaddyhammer said:
All you guys getting bent out of shape need to realize something... Kurz has been asking the same damn questions for years now... he NEVER listens to advice and is either an anorexic who refuses to get help or an idiot who likes clowning others...

We tried for months to help this guy and finally banned him when the "eat more" advice took a backseat to his obsession with measuring his teaspoons of PB and eating handfuls of almonds and steel cut oats, rather than bulking properly....

I guarantee you that in one year, Jkurz will NOT be over 175, nor was he ever a 245lb fucking football player...

Sorry for clogging up the board with this shit, but you guys need to see the forest for the trees... I would have had no problem with the guy if he actually LISTENED to ANY advice we had given him, but, rather than take advice from guys like me, who actually made the transformation from 130lb stickman to a 270lb pro wrestler(who still had abs, btw J) he shit on all of us and got cocky...

You guys have no problem with his seeing a therapist and being cured in 2 weeks?

Give your heads a shake and either start giving the tough love that he deserves or be burnt like everyone else has...

Just my 2 cents... but what do I know...
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that is some true shit ....

It is like a train wreck though... and fucking hilarious... to see a guy struggling way at 150lbs and 6'2... i keep nosing around his threads to see EVERY one of them degrade into his narcissistic hole.... I think its hilarious that every one of his posts he talks about how he will "overcome" blah blah, for how many years now?

Yet for some reason people still placate him and play into his pit of self pity.

Its really amazing what some people put up with from their fellow man, some people just really have no place on this earth... if he wants to starve himself to death after having everyone's pity for how many years now... i say let him die alone and SHREDDED
 
bigdaddyhammer said:
We tried for months to help this guy and finally banned him when the "eat more" advice took a backseat to his obsession with measuring his teaspoons of PB and eating handfuls of almonds and steel cut oats, rather than bulking properly....
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...and then he re-registered under another name 5 minutes later to ask exactly the same questions about stacking oats with almonds.


:Popcorn: for the fatties
 
everytime this num nuts asks a question, he has to ask it at least 10000 times and even after that he still doesnt listen, he gets very intelligent answers, ignores them, then asks the same question in a different thread.

big ups to bigdaddyhammer for preachin some truth
 
I would like to end this by saying: "FOR FUCK'S SAKE JUST EAT, AND STOP ACTING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH". Just my 0.02 Oh and btw Jkruz about my mom...her arms are bigger than yours you little fruit.
 
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