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Should I Tell My Workout Partner I Juice?

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curling

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Man, I have been working out with this dude for about 4 months now. I think he is cool but he really doesn't like juice so I haven't told him I do it. Well the other day he said man your arms are getting bigger and I said it was just the pump(man I love the pump on gear). Then the other night we were doing shoulders and I did like 10 heavier on dbs on shoulder presses like 25 heavier than his. His eyes lit up.

I just wonder when I really start getting big(in week 4 now) Do you think he is going to keep buying my creatine story? Or should I tell him? Because he is very competitive and I would hate him to get hurt by trying to stay up with me. See what I saying?
 
Re: there are a lot of my friends that I suspect I juice.

johnboy said:
But there is only 1 that I have admitted it to and he and I have been friends for 25 years.
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Like I said we were pretty even in strength and I am concerned that he might injur himself trying to keep up with me.
 
No, don't tell him. Don't tell him anything. You don't have to explain why you're bigger or stronger. If he asks, shrug your shoulders, tell him you've been cleaning up your diet, sleeping better, etc.
 
When I did my last cycle I told 2 real close friends. Well, one of them got drunk one night and started running his mouth and blurted out that I was juicing. So now even more people know and you know how people like to spread stories/rumors. So I'd say unless you want to take a chance on everyone knowing, keep it to yourself.
 
alien amp pharm said:
When I did my last cycle I told 2 real close friends. Well, one of them got drunk one night and started running his mouth and blurted out that I was juicing. So now even more people know and you know how people like to spread stories/rumors. So I'd say unless you want to take a chance on everyone knowing, keep it to yourself.
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Thats why I dont tell people anything anymore.
 
No, don't tell anyone. As soon as you tell him, he'd be like, "That's why you're big and strong!". BS ... it's because you worked your ass off.

But letting people in on your juicing suddenly makes your improvements meaningless in their eyes because they attribute it to juice.

Just tell em you're busting your ass.
 
I wouldn't tell either... I have never told anyone I know in person, and you know, you have to be honest about what you use on these boards to get solid advice.... The way I figure it, as long as only I know, that is the only way I can be 100% sure that no one else is going to find out.
 
See I look at it differently. I have a bunch of friends who are too fucking lazy to workout so when me and my buddy get bigger here and there they dont think anything of it cause we just say we are takng a shit load of expensive supplements. But if I were working out with my buddy and his strength was going through the roof and his size was too, I would be like, you juicing arent ya. Cause after workingout naturally and spending the money on supplements, well I would get the picture but than again not everyone will. There is only like 3 ppl who know I juice. My mom, my bro, and my buddy I do it with. Thats it. People just dont know or they just dont seem to care.
 
curling, I have the same delima. I've been working out with this dude for about a year and have never told him. When we started last year I was just coming off so he didnt have a clue, then around Christmas I hit just a short winny cycle he didnt say anything when strength increased plus he is really naive. But Im getting ready for next one so I've been dropping hints about AS cause I know it will be obvious. Like you and your partner, me and him are dead on strength, but he is totally against AS or any other drug for that matter. We arent really friends outside of the gym I just workout with him because he's always consistent and works hard. I think I'll probably end up telling him, I know he's cool but he will be giving me shit cause I'll blow past him in lifts.
-Later
 
9inarow said:
No, don't tell anyone. As soon as you tell him, he'd be like, "That's why you're big and strong!". BS ... it's because you worked your ass off.

But letting people in on your juicing suddenly makes your improvements meaningless in their eyes because they attribute it to juice.

Just tell em you're busting your ass.
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I'd think that his partner is equally as dedicated since they are doing the same routines and workouts.

When one begins to grow very fast and get much stronger the difference is the juice. He may work his ass off for the gains but it is definitely easier. No one would be juicing otherwise.
 
No dont tell him unless he ask you if you ever thought about. Just say you havent given it thought. If he says he wants to i would tell him. That is how my workout partner found out, he questioned me.

I would not tell him unless he says he wants to do it.
 
Don't do it. You'll regret it... I do. I told this goofy fucker I thought was a good friend a while back when I was a little drunk. This queer only spends time in the machine weights area and says he doesn't like to supplement with protein b/c he "doesn't feel like washing his blender all the time." Needless to say, he's a skinny, pathetic looking faggot. Now whenever I mention any tips to him about his diet or training, he alway says "Well yeah but if I took that stuff I'd be big too..." ARGGGHHH I feel like punching his lights out when he says that shit. What the fuck dick? You think you inject a couple times a week and you get big? It's that fucking simply huh? FUCK YOU!

Sorry, anyway, moral of the story is: DO NOT TELL HIM. DO NOT TELL ANYONE, except maybe your very close significant other (so she can give you the injections ;)). later
 
I wouldn`t tell,I`m in the same situation.I work out with a guy 1-2 times a week for the last 8 months.I think it crosses his mind once in a while.I have more stamina in the gym and I`m 11 yrs older.
 
Just like every other person on here... do not tell him. All it takes is for one person to know for the whole world to find out. Human beings cannot keep things to themselves, they have a natural urge to want to tell people things.
 
I agree ,I wouldn't tell him unless he said he wants to do some but i would def wait untill he is serious about it and then if he wasn't my friend i would not tell him period because if you are not friends enough to hang around after the gym you can't trust him bottom line if you don't want any heat keep it to your self , sometimes we talk to much. I saw this same thing happen in a gym hear in Louisiana everyone that ran there mouth about gear was investigated and some were busted when they sent narcs in to work out right along the side of us, sorry low lifes!!!
 
curling said:
Man, I have been working out with this dude for about 4 months now. I think he is cool but he really doesn't like juice so I haven't told him I do it. Well the other day he said man your arms are getting bigger and I said it was just the pump(man I love the pump on gear). Then the other night we were doing shoulders and I did like 10 heavier on dbs on shoulder presses like 25 heavier than his. His eyes lit up.

I just wonder when I really start getting big(in week 4 now) Do you think he is going to keep buying my creatine story? Or should I tell him? Because he is very competitive and I would hate him to get hurt by trying to stay up with me. See what I saying?
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no, you will open yourself up to bullshit down the line, you tell him, he tells someone else, that trend may eventually lead to a cop
 
It really depends on if you can trust him or not but if hes one of your good friends I would say tell him. He'll figure it out eventually. One of my best friends did the same thing you're doing now. I had my doubts and he finally told me, I understood why he didn't tell me but I was still a little angry just because you share everything with your workout partner. Not to mention we've been friends for years. I just know I would've told him if I did it. I say tell him only if you know him good and can trust him.
 
I agree with superchicken, you tell one person, soon the world will know...Just tell him that "it's the Genetics."
 
If he is a really close firend then you may be able to tell him but only you know how he likely to react. I have told all my good friends and many don't juice...no big deal. Anyway he will figure it out sooner or latter....unless he is an idiot.
 
i guess im a different breed from all you guys because i could give a rats fucking ass if someone knows im juicing because you know their are fuckin crack heads in the streets and ill be damned if some is gonna give me some shit about this..!!
 
NO WAY!!!!

Just explain to him, if you must, that's it superior genetics that get allow you to grow bigger and stronger :light: . Explain to him that you are better than him but you won't hold it against him!

Never ADMIT, never ADMIT, never ADMIT - I get these questions all the time: "Hey man, what'll takin?" I then explain that due to my superior genetics I simply drink water and avoid protein because I'll grow to big and freaky!!!!:eek2: :FRlol:

Oh, did I mention - never ADMIT?
 
Thanks for the responses dudes. I have decided not to tell him. For the reason someone stated. I bust my butt in the gym. Just as hard or harder than any natural dude.

And I don't want to hear the reason you are big is because of gear. Because actually I workout harder than my partner does. I eat right, I try to sleep right(this is hard for me) and like I said I go to failure on every set(except warmup of course). So I really don't want to have my work discounted that would hack me off.
 
WOW, I'm really surprised at the answers to this absurd question.
If someone askes me if i'm on the sauce i'm not going to lie which is exactly what you guys are doing. Who really gives a shit what other people think about your juice habits?? I personally don't. It's alot more accepted these days as it is anyway, ESPECIALLY in the gyms. I personally have no respect for guys who deny until they die being on the juice.
 
FlexBailey said:
WOW, I'm really surprised at the answers to this absurd question.
If someone askes me if i'm on the sauce i'm not going to lie which is exactly what you guys are doing. Who really gives a shit what other people think about your juice habits?? I personally don't. It's alot more accepted these days as it is anyway, ESPECIALLY in the gyms. I personally have no respect for guys who deny until they die being on the juice.
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Yes, but roids get a real bad rap. Just ask someone unfamilar with them and they will say totally rediculous stuff about them. Fact is the majority of people out there have no clue about roids, so when you use them people tend to think of you as a drug addict or something. There are all kinds od complications that can occur from people knowing....illegal, people considering it cheating, people always bugging you to hook them up, etc. So, as some people don't care who knows, I prefer to keep it to myself.
 
I agree with the majority! Don't tell him. My partner asked me the other day. We've only been working out for about 3 months, I just told him I'm getting more sleep and tightening up in my diet...he bought it. The truth is I AM doing that stuff as well. The only people who know are my girl and my source. That's it...PERIOD!!!

Keep it to yourself!!! You're better off!

P-DUB
 
only a selct few know i juice, buddies i have had since the 6th grade, they do X and drink every fucking day so why should they give a shit?
 
¡¡ni hablar!!

fuck that...

only people that understand ur juicing are people that know you well as a person and people who juice or want to.

only my best friend knows i juice and i´ve started him in his first cycle


im 100% shure he will never say a word of it, once someone asked me if i juiced and he told them that i would be x2 as big if i did... if people don´t know what juice is i just tell them i´d be ronnie coleman if i juiced!!!!
 
one more thing... a good strategy is making everyone think my diet is shit i drink and smoke, don´t sleep properly, and when i´m on it i´ll tell them i´m taking it seriously.


right now i´m on dnp and i just tell people i feel sick and sweat a lot ... lol
 
With the exception of Karade I bet the rest of you lie to your girls..that to me is one sick relationship if you can't even be open about personal drug habits. Damn where did you guys get your morals from? I look at you guys and all I see are professional liars. That's pretty sad..
 
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I agree with Flex Bailey!

Just tell him you have a supreme standard in terms of Bodybuilding, whether you end up competing or not! You want to look like a pro & it is TOTALLY UNATTAINABLE NATURALLY. Take it from me. I'm 31yo & have been training naturally for 13 years. 10 weeks of which I spent on really low (200-300mg of Nandrolone a week) & 1 or 2 Dbol a day.

People need to understand. You will never have an amazing (Big, lean, symmetrical) physique without steroids or GH. & if your goal is to build is an amazing physique, You Must Juice at least a bit! There's no getting around this...

I tell anyone I talk to extensively about Bodybuilding. & they simply ask me if & when I'm going to compete. Personally, I find that people respect you more when you're honest & showing that you have such high standards & intensity.

One thing I'll never do is supply someone with gear or hook them up with a connection. I've spent a lot of time learning about juice & where to get it. I feel each needs to do his own homework.
 
FlexBailey said:
With the exception of Karade I bet the rest of you lie to your girls..that to me is one sick relationship if you can't even be open about personal drug habits. Damn where did you guys get your morals from? I look at you guys and all I see are professional liars. That's pretty sad..
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Painting with a pretty broad brush aren't you? As a matter of fact, my wife does know; lying to somebody that you have a lifelong commitment to is a little different than lying to somebody you've known for 4 months, that has admitted to disliking steroids, and is naturally competitive (i.e. a blabbermouth behind your back).

I will talk with guys that are in the know openly -- I've got no problem with that. I just don't have time for educating every media-brainwashed, anti-steroid moron out there. There's very little to gain and a whole lot to lose.

And maybe you don't give a shit about what people think about you, but there ARE legal and professional ramifications if the wrong people find out about you and take interest.
 
the only people know that I juice are my workout partners... Well, one of them happened to ask his brother-in-law about suringes. We needed some... Guess what that motha-fucka told his wife, she told her friends, who told my friend's wife...
Moral of the story is simple, keep it up to yourself, unless you have friends that would DIE for you...
You don't have to lie to him. Just tell partial truth...
you will be alright, man...
 
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THeMaCHinE said:


Painting with a pretty broad brush aren't you? As a matter of fact, my wife does know; lying to somebody that you have a lifelong commitment to is a little different than lying to somebody you've known for 4 months, that has admitted to disliking steroids, and is naturally competitive (i.e. a blabbermouth behind your back).

I will talk with guys that are in the know openly -- I've got no problem with that. I just don't have time for educating every media-brainwashed, anti-steroid moron out there. There's very little to gain and a whole lot to lose.

And maybe you don't give a shit about what people think about you, but there ARE legal and professional ramifications if the wrong people find out about you and take interest.
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THeMaCHinE said:


Painting with a pretty broad brush aren't you? As a matter of fact, my wife does know; lying to somebody that you have a lifelong commitment to is a little different than lying to somebody you've known for 4 months, that has admitted to disliking steroids, and is naturally competitive (i.e. a blabbermouth behind your back).

I will talk with guys that are in the know openly -- I've got no problem with that. I just don't have time for educating every media-brainwashed, anti-steroid moron out there. There's very little to gain and a whole lot to lose.

And maybe you don't give a shit about what people think about you, but there ARE legal and professional ramifications if the wrong people find out about you and take interest.
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Great post, if you aren't close to them - FUCK THEM. Do not reveal everything about yourself for Christs sake.. 7 out of 8 "casual" friends will sell you out, for $$$, for envy, for a 6-pack of beer... FRIENDS, are few & far between - I have ONE friend and my wife - I tell both of them the truth, they won't sell me out.

However, I have several superficial friends from Business/bullshit middle class neighboorhood ass kissing and the gym. I paint the picture I want them to see.:artist:
 
Painting what? I see a liar and I say it. Simple as that. I just have a pet peeve for guys that aren't honest. I was honest from day one with people when they started asking me if I was on steroids. If if it was just some random idiot i'd simply say..'regardless of what I say you're going to think i'm on it anyway so think what you want'.
The funny thing is half these guys you're lying to at the gym probably already know you're on the sauce..it's pretty easy to tell most of the time..so all you are really doing is losing peoples respect because they no you're full of shit.
 
FlexBailey said:
Painting what? I see a liar and I say it. Simple as that. I just have a pet peeve for guys that aren't honest. I was honest from day one with people when they started asking me if I was on steroids. If if it was just some random idiot i'd simply say..'regardless of what I say you're going to think i'm on it anyway so think what you want'.
The funny thing is half these guys you're lying to at the gym probably already know you're on the sauce..it's pretty easy to tell most of the time..so all you are really doing is losing peoples respect because they no you're full of shit.
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:confused: Sooo honest Joe :verygood: , you must have 0 fear of persecution/legal issues and I would guess your job isn't at the "level" that could be negatively effective if usage was confirmed.. That's CONFIRMED, as in verbal or otherwise. Suspicions don't count, so don't give me your bullshit speech about "probably already know you're on sauce" ...

People will think your on sauce if you have a quality physique, I know as I was natural for 7 years, everybody was convinced I was on Gear.. So perceptions don't mean shit, admission of guilt does - if your stupid or have NOTHING to lose, go for it! Wear a Body by TTOKYO shirt, I sure as hell know I'm not going to admit it.
 
and anyways its not lying, its just none of their fuckin business and you don't owe them shit, there is a difference. Just because you don't tell everybody every fart you let, doesnt mean your lying to everybody. Most people like mentioned in previous posts, cannot keep a secret or they use it against you because they arent on. I always get crap from people in the gym wanting something, or something like that, mostly from people I barely know. Why should I have to divulge every bit of info to them. My earlier post was that I have the same dilema with my partner. Yes I may say something to him this summer if he asks me, but probably not if he doesnt. BTW, my girlfriend of several years does know as I've always been HONEST with her.

Peace out Honest Abe.
 
yea...don't tell him..told a freind once, and im sure he blurted it out to the girlfriend..now im on a cycel, he doens't know, and no one will ever know again..exept one dude who i trust and is always jucing.
 
PlateheadJim said:


:confused: Sooo honest Joe :verygood: , you must have 0 fear of persecution/legal issues and I would guess your job isn't at the "level" that could be negatively effective if usage was confirmed.. That's CONFIRMED, as in verbal or otherwise. Suspicions don't count, so don't give me your bullshit speech about "probably already know you're on sauce" ...

People will think your on sauce if you have a quality physique, I know as I was natural for 7 years, everybody was convinced I was on Gear.. So perceptions don't mean shit, admission of guilt does - if your stupid or have NOTHING to lose, go for it! Wear a Body by TTOKYO shirt, I sure as hell know I'm not going to admit it.
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Seeing as I live in Canada I have no fear of legal issues. And suspicisions count more than you know. There's a group of us in the gym who have seen this guy blow up about 30lb in 2-3 months yet although we're all fellow juicers he still denies touching a thing. We all know he's full of shit and every last one if us don't take him serious anymore because he's lied to us.
Another problem i've seen is when the juicer lies to his girlfriend. Everyone is running around talking about him being on the juice yet she argues them to death that he's really not..meanwhile this guy is one of my good friends and he's totally on the sauce..just imagine how stupid this poor girl looks when everyone knows but her because he keeps lying to her! That is down right brutal!
For certain jobs I can somewhat understand you're dishonesty and lying but most aren't in that situation yet still will lie until the day they die about their juice habits.
 
projection said:
........Just because you don't tell everybody every fart you let, doesnt mean your lying to everybody.......
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LMAO :FRlol: :FRlol: :FRlol:
 
FlexBailey said:



Seeing as I live in Canada I have no fear of legal issues.
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Well, I guess that makes it pretty easy to sit up on your imaginary high horse and spew dribble and pass judgement about those of us that do have to worry about the legal ramifications. Maybe you'd feel differently if you could be prosecuted/jailed for it where you live.

Also, in your earlier post, you said "If if it was just some random idiot i'd simply say..'regardless of what I say you're going to think i'm on it anyway so think what you want." That's contradictory to what you said before about always telling the truth. If you were as balls up as you claim, you'd tell him.
 
THeMaCHinE said:



Also, in your earlier post, you said "If if it was just some random idiot i'd simply say..'regardless of what I say you're going to think i'm on it anyway so think what you want." That's contradictory to what you said before about always telling the truth. If you were as balls up as you claim, you'd tell him.
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Yes but i'm not lying am I..that was my point and I think it was pretty clear.
 
you're doing what half the guys that are asked this question would do -- evading the question; that's not the same as strictly and stringently telling the truth as your earlier posts proclaimed.

Why wouldn't you just tell him -- it seems more adherent to your personal morality, and you have no fear of legal repurcussion?
 
FlexBailey said:

Another problem i've seen is when the juicer lies to his girlfriend. Everyone is running around talking about him being on the juice yet she argues them to death that he's really not..meanwhile this guy is one of my good friends and he's totally on the sauce..just imagine how stupid this poor girl looks when everyone knows but her because he keeps lying to her! That is down right brutal!
For certain jobs I can somewhat understand you're dishonesty and lying but most aren't in that situation yet still will lie until the day they die about their juice habits.
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yup
 
I would if evading the question doesn't work which at times it didn't. I would much rather tell the truth than lie. It's obviously none of their business and asking a stranger something that personal shows an obvious lack of class but I still won't lie. Sorry if that offends you that there are still honest people out there.
The thing is most people after talking to them for 5 minutes will begin to understand why I do them and they actually become much more open minded about it as a result.
 
FlexBailey said:
I would if evading the question doesn't work which at times it didn't. I would much rather tell the truth than lie. It's obviously none of their business and asking a stranger something that personal shows an obvious lack of class but I still won't lie. Sorry if that offends you that there are still honest people out there.
The thing is most people after talking to them for 5 minutes will begin to understand why I do them and they actually become much more open minded about it as a result.
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I'm not offended, don't make assumptions. I'm glad you feel you're able to educate people that you talk to about it. Good for you. As for the other stuff, again, it's easy to sit back and call names and pass judgement when you don't have the threat of legal repurcussions. I'm suprised you are unable to recognize this. But whatever.
 
THeMaCHinE said:


I'm not offended, don't make assumptions. I'm glad you feel you're able to educate people that you talk to about it. Good for you. As for the other stuff, again, it's easy to sit back and call names and pass judgement when you don't have the threat of legal repurcussions. I'm suprised you are unable to recognize this. But whatever.
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I did recognize that in a previous post. But that isn't most guys concern. Their concern and worries are that people will find out they've 'cheated' or that they're fake because it is frowned upon in society. I just don't really care, I know that we're not fake and that it still takes hard ass work and discipline and that juice is just the icing on the cake.
 
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