Should I run Dermacrine; not fully back

[StackedXXX]

I have been clear of AAS for 5 months and I don't feel 100% back. Should I run dermacrine or d. sustain and why? My erection strength, and libido arent like they used to be, but they're ok; just not like the old 19-20 year old i
Jenscatsused to be.

I also can't get a blood test cuz my doc is wak and doesnt want 2 give it 2 me; i could save up for the salavia test though. If I get the salavai done what 3 hormojes should I get checked?

 

[xrsist]

what did your last cycle 5 months ago look like?

original derma then derma sustain with unleashed the whole time from all reports works well

 

[hurricane]

check out unleashed also .. good reports on sexual fuction help

 

[centy]

Bummer dude. Perhaps you should consider getting a blood test to see where your levels are at. Try some Unleashed too.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Check out http://www.healthcheckusa.com/ to get a blood test if your doctor is being a pain. It isn't covered by insurance but the prices are cheap. I just ordered a chem-26 test (lipid profile, liver, kidneys, etc) and it was only about 50 bucks. I'm gonna go in to the lab for the blood test in a week or 2 and I should get my results within 2 days after they take my blood (or so they say). I'll post a thread when I get my results.

 

[StackedXXX]

what did your last cycle 5 months ago look like?

original derma then derma sustain with unleashed the whole time from all reports works well

My cycle was a normal.
test e @500-625 /week- 10 weeks
proviron then masteron " "
hcg once a week throughout

pct
nolva and clomid
otc test boosters

 

[StackedXXX]

Check out http://www.healthcheckusa.com/ to get a blood test if your doctor is being a pain. It isn't covered by insurance but the prices are cheap. I just ordered a chem-26 test (lipid profile, liver, kidneys, etc) and it was only about 50 bucks. I'm gonna go in to the lab for the blood test in a week or 2 and I should get my results within 2 days after they take my blood (or so they say). I'll post a thread when I get my results.

thanks bro, nice site. But the salavia test at PP tests for 3 hormones for $80 and at this site their charging $56 just for testo(it doesnt indicate whether its free test, shbg, total)

 

[jumpmaster82]

as far as libido goes, I've heard unleashed is the best in that category.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Check out http://www.healthcheckusa.com/ to get a blood test if your doctor is being a pain. It isn't covered by insurance but the prices are cheap. I just ordered a chem-26 test (lipid profile, liver, kidneys, etc) and it was only about 50 bucks. I'm gonna go in to the lab for the blood test in a week or 2 and I should get my results within 2 days after they take my blood (or so they say). I'll post a thread when I get my results.

does your insurance cover the lab draw? if not how much does it cost to have it drawn?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

as far as libido goes, I've heard unleashed is the best in that category.

Speaking from experience it is the best that I have ever taken.

 

[StackedXXX]

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[stbizzle]

I had trouble recovering after a cycle I think it was more in my head than an actual problem

I used dermacrine (I've never dried d.s) with 150mg clomid ed and 30mg cialis e3d
that was over kill I was a walking erection

Right now I'm using Androgenerator
all in all with this I don't notice much beside my sex drive is up

you could always try running a stronger PCT - post cycle therapy -

 

[needtogetaas]

I have been clear of anabolic androgenic steroids for 5 months and I don't feel 100% back. Should I run dermacrine or d. sustain and why? My erection strength, and libido arent like they used to be, but they're ok; just not like the old 19-20 year old i
Jenscatsused to be.

I also can't get a blood test cuz my doc is wak and doesnt want 2 give it 2 me; i could save up for the salavia test though. If I get the salavai done what 3 hormojes should I get checked?

You gut feeling is right bro. Go with dermacrine reg for 4 weeks. That will make you feel like a fucking pron king. I fucking will give you the money out of my own pocket if you don't love it. I have made this same clam many times and I still make it now with the same confidence as I always do. I do not own the company so if you do not love it it comes from me. Then use 4 weeks of sustain
Alpha after. I give my word which most people on this board know is a lot. Its all I have.

 

[xrsist]

You gut feeling is right bro. Go with dermacrine reg for 4 weeks. That will make you feel like a fucking pron king. I fucking will give you the money out of my own pocket if you don't love it. I have made this same clam many times and I still make it now with the same confidence as I always do. I do not own the company so if you do not love it it comes from me. Then use 4 weeks of sustain
Alpha after. I give my word which most people on this board know is a lot. Its all I have.

good bro

 

[njmuscleguy]

the guy needs to consider why his libido isn't back yet, if it was normal in the past... if he's not recovered yet, I wouldn't go with original derma, it could further supress by the time he's done.... go with sustain... it will help with recovery and still boost libido. adding unleashed and post-cycle couldn't hurt.

 

[needtogetaas]

the guy needs to consider why his libido isn't back yet, if it was normal in the past... if he's not recovered yet, I wouldn't go with original derma, it could further supress by the time he's done.... go with sustain... it will help with recovery and still boost libido. adding unleashed and post-cycle couldn't hurt.

You know I trust you more because you have dealt with problems like this more then others. I alway recover good. I know you deal with this all the time though.

 

[centy]

the guy needs to consider why his libido isn't back yet, if it was normal in the past... if he's not recovered yet, I wouldn't go with original derma, it could further supress by the time he's done.... go with sustain... it will help with recovery and still boost libido. adding unleashed and post-cycle couldn't hurt.

Excellent point bro

 

[StackedXXX]

the guy needs to consider why his libido isn't back yet, if it was normal in the past... if he's not recovered yet, I wouldn't go with original derma, it could further supress by the time he's done.... go with sustain... it will help with recovery and still boost libido. adding unleashed and post-cycle couldn't hurt.

My libido is normal, and so is my strength, aggressiveness, erections...BUT not as good as it used to be...I'm 20 and and used to wake up wit a club between my legs...Wouldn't D.suatiand lower my estrogen too much

 

[njmuscleguy]

My libido is normal, and so is my strength, aggressiveness, erections...BUT not as good as it used to be...I'm 20 and and used to wake up wit a club between my legs...Wouldn't D.suatiand lower my estrogen too much

when you say "not as good as it used to be".... when exactly was that? a year ago? 2 years? I can't imagine that your libido/erections got that much worse by age 20.... or are you comparing the way you feel now to the way you felt while you were ON? BIG difference there....don't get those feelings confused....you'll never feel OFF the way you feel ON.

if you think your body's natural test production is "healthy", then the only other explanations would be a) you're not fully recovered from your last cycle; b) your lifestyle...are you eating right? sleeping right? stress? all these could affect your libido, etc.

I still think you should go with something that will help boost your body's natural test-making process and recovery... something that won't suppress you.... Sustain shouldn't suppress estrogen that much, and you'd only run in for a month (1 bottle) and then see where that leaves you.

Couldn't hurt to get re-tested after that....make sure your H P T A is functioning properly, etc.

(oh, and notice that I haven't flamed you yet for cycling at such a young age! *grin* There's a reason why that's stressed.... it's so easy to screw up your natural hormones, that risk shouldn't be taken when your body is at its prime)

 

[StackedXXX]

when you say "not as good as it used to be".... when exactly was that? a year ago? 2 years? I can't imagine that your libido/erections got that much worse by age 20.... or are you comparing the way you feel now to the way you felt while you were ON? BIG difference there....don't get those feelings confused....you'll never feel OFF the way you feel ON.

if you think your body's natural test production is "healthy", then the only other explanations would be a) you're not fully recovered from your last cycle; b) your lifestyle...are you eating right? sleeping right? stress? all these could affect your libido, etc.

I still think you should go with something that will help boost your body's natural test-making process and recovery... something that won't suppress you.... Sustain shouldn't suppress estrogen that much, and you'd only run in for a month (1 bottle) and then see where that leaves you.

Couldn't hurt to get re-tested after that....make sure your H P T A is functioning properly, etc.

(oh, and notice that I haven't flamed you yet for cycling at such a young age! *grin* There's a reason why that's stressed.... it's so easy to screw up your natural hormones, that risk shouldn't be taken when your body is at its prime)

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I should have clarified better; "not as good as it used to be" meaning before my cycle compared to now(5-6 months after cycle). I regret juicing because i was young and dumb, but I'm here now and HEY it only gets better. By the way I have some proviron, nolva, and test(500mg) left; I'm thinking of finishing proviron and discarding the test and nolva.Anyone recommend this?

The last time I did sustain, I used it for 1 week; I felt less stronger, less recovered. But it did surge my hunger up like hell. It should've gave it time to work and stay on for the full 4 weeks, but decided not to. So I dropped the sustain and took unleashed and 2 OTC test (tongat ali, unversal animal stack). So you guys think it better to take the sustain rather than reg derm then sustain???? thanks for reading...be safe and take care...

 

[xrsist]

I had trouble recovering after a cycle I think it was more in my head than an actual problem

I used dermacrine (I've never dried d.s) with 150mg clomid ed and 30mg cialis e3d
that was over kill I was a walking erection

Right now I'm using Androgenerator
all in all with this I don't notice much beside my sex drive is up

you could always try running a stronger PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy -

i know you dont post alot bro but yer you just wasted money on that crap, hit up a mod here for good otc supps next time, they will point you in the right direction. do not believe what ross or holy ghost say

 

[StackedXXX]

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I should have clarified better; "not as good as it used to be" meaning before my cycle compared to now(5-6 months after cycle). I regret juicing because i was young and dumb, but I'm here now and HEY it only gets better. By the way I have some proviron, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - , and test(500mg) left; I'm thinking of finishing proviron and discarding the test and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - .Anyone recommend this?

The last time I did sustain, I used it for 1 week; I felt less stronger, less recovered. But it did surge my hunger up like hell. It should've gave it time to work and stay on for the full 4 weeks, but decided not to. So I dropped the sustain and took unleashed and 2 OTC test (tongat ali, unversal animal stack). So you guys think it better to take the sustain rather than reg derm then sustain???? thanks for reading...be safe and take care...

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[StackedXXX]

push

 

[Primordial Performance]

My libido is normal, and so is my strength, aggressiveness, erections...BUT not as good as it used to be...I'm 20 and and used to wake up wit a club between my legs...Wouldn't D.suatiand lower my estrogen too much

If your estrogen is high, Sustain will help reduce it. But if it’s already in a normal range it will keep it there. It’s a very natural light AI… perfect for PCT.

Go with the Sustain, it should get your libido, erections and stamina back where you want them.

-Pp

 

[StackedXXX]

If your estrogen is high, Sustain will help reduce it. But if it’s already in a normal range it will keep it there. It’s a very natural light aromatase inhibitor… perfect for PCT - post cycle therapy - .

Go with the Sustain, it should get your libido, erections and stamina back where you want them.

-Pp

are you very sure though...I mean you are selling the stuff and want much sales as possinle, no offense...I dont want to be messed up hormonally...any one took sustain while not really needing a pct? it does look promising though and I'm thinking of stacking it with unleashed...oh yea i couldnt resist, im taking the proviron for 11 days; 50mg/day.

 

[centy]

The Sustain cannot hurt you here. Methinks it can only help ya out.

Definitely take Unleashed.

 

[njmuscleguy]

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I should have clarified better; "not as good as it used to be" meaning before my cycle compared to now(5-6 months after cycle). I regret juicing because i was young and dumb, but I'm here now and HEY it only gets better. By the way I have some proviron, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - , and test(500mg) left; I'm thinking of finishing proviron and discarding the test and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - .Anyone recommend this?

The last time I did sustain, I used it for 1 week; I felt less stronger, less recovered. But it did surge my hunger up like hell. It should've gave it time to work and stay on for the full 4 weeks, but decided not to. So I dropped the sustain and took unleashed and 2 OTC test (tongat ali, unversal animal stack). So you guys think it better to take the sustain rather than reg derm then sustain???? thanks for reading...be safe and take care...

Bro, there's no point in asking for further advice if you've already started taking the proviron... which I would've advised you NOT to do... proviron is a temporary fix...it will make you feel better for sure, kick up the libido...but when you're done, you're back to the same situation as before you started, maybe even worse...proviron WILL suppress you.

Should've gone with Sustain...do some research on its ingredients if you have your doubts...they're mild yet effective for what you're looking to accomplish. I've tried tons of OTC supplements, most of them crap... I have nothing but good things to say about PP's products.

 

[needtogetaas]

are you very sure though...I mean you are selling the stuff and want much sales as possinle, no offense...I dont want to be messed up hormonally...any one took sustain while not really needing a PCT - post cycle therapy - ? it does look promising though and I'm thinking of stacking it with unleashed...oh yea i couldnt resist, im taking the proviron for 11 days; 50mg/day.

If you need some feed back on this from members that have nothing to do with the company the post and threads are all over the place. I can do the leg work for you and give you links to over a 100 or more if you need me to.

 

[needtogetaas]

i know you dont post alot bro but yer you just wasted money on that crap, hit up a mod here for good otc supps next time, they will point you in the right direction. do not believe what ross or holy ghost say

lmao. You know thats right.

 

[StackedXXX]

If you need some feed back on this from members that have nothing to do with the company the post and threads are all over the place. I can do the leg work for you and give you links to over a 100 or more if you need me to.

yes please i will feel more secured and safe/sound. You can either pm me or post here.

 

[StackedXXX]

First off thanks to everyone for the advice...

**needto ...i would appreciate a few links of users of sustain and reg derma.

I eventually want to try reg. dermacrine so...
**question: SHOULD I RUN SUSTAIN THEN DERMACRINE AND THEN SUSTAIN OR START OFF WITH REG. DERMACRINE THEN FOLLOW WITH SUSTAIN?

 

[Primordial Performance]

First off thanks to everyone for the advice...

**needto ...i would appreciate a few links of users of sustain and reg derma.

I eventually want to try reg. dermacrine so...
**question: SHOULD I RUN SUSTAIN THEN DERMACRINE AND THEN SUSTAIN OR START OFF WITH REG. DERMACRINE THEN FOLLOW WITH SUSTAIN?

You are still suppressed so you should work on getting your natural T production up first. Go with the Sustain & Unleased now, then maybe a couple months down the road go with Dermacrine.

-Pp

 

[StackedXXX]

I decideded to go with the sustain(ordering friday)...How many pumps per day?

I'm not a member so can anyone throw some links at me?

 

[StackedXXX]

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[Primordial Performance]

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Here you go bro -

http://www.primordialperformance.com/details.cfm

Remember, the code MVC10 will save you $10.

-Pp

 

[StackedXXX]

thanks

 

[Carlito B]

I agree, guys..Androgenital is a scam! please notice each serving contains about 2 to 3 grams of CEE ( creatine ethyl ester ) which is THE ONLY REASON WHY PEOPLE REPORT PUMPS AND SOME STRENGTH GAINS, there will be an increase if libido due to the long jack and triubulus because yes both of these herbal compounds do increase androgens but only ENOUGH TO INCREASE LIBIDO, long jack and triubulus WILL NEVER INCREASE ANDROGEN LEVELS ENOUGH TO INCREASE TOTAL AND FREE TESTOSTERONE ENOUGH TO NOTICE AND GET MUSCLE GROWTH AND STRENGTH, IS LIKE TAKING 50MG OF TEST E WEEKLY,LOL...

Here is Ross's scam,.. he has an "active hidden" ingredient which he recently started to mention on his advertisement and it is CEE, this is so "newbies" buy into the whole testosterone thing...they get pumps and strength gains from the 5 to 6 grams of CEE per 2 servings daily ( 10 tabs) and notice they are getting a libido increase from the LJ and Tirubulus, next thing you know these "newbies" think they are really getting a real testosterone BOOST which is not the case.

This is why Androgenital is a scam!

C

 

[needtogetaas]

yes please i will feel more secured and safe/sound. You can either pm me or post here.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ng-out-new-product-skeptical-zone-562534.html

 

[SARMS Search]

I have used dermacrine several time and liked it....great product