Should I Disregard Him?

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

Ok here's the dilio I want your opinion on:

There is a guy I've known for a year or so through a very good friend of mine.

The thing is the "good friend of mine" , well we haven't been good friends ever since he liked me and I did not reciprocate his feelings. I wanted to remain friends, but he didn't want to be just friends. And I was datign another guy at the time, and some promlems arrose.

So this other guy is his friend, and turns out (I saw him this weekend) he's now roomates with him. What I like about this guy is he's very laid back, low maintaince, doesn't seem to have much baggage, non-emotional and gotts a great body

ut is it worth pissing off and annoying my friend?

 

[Hannibal]

What I like about this guy is he's very laid back, low maintaince, doesn't seem to have much baggage, non-emotional and gotts a great body

ut is it worth pissing off and annoying my friend?

Alright...lets stop beating around the bush. If you want to go out with me just say so. I told you that my friend wouldn't mind...and if he does...too bad

"no I will not make out with you...I'm here to learn"

 

[satanic goatslayer]

Without reading your post, I'd say with a great deal of certainty that it's time for you to cut him loose, with a 13 inch blade.

 

[needleboy]

NO, you'll lose your freind, and it will strain their friendship. Let sleeping dogs lie.

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

Shaggs... all's fair in love & war.... besides, you need some TLC just as bad as I do... go for it psycho!

 

[big4life]

If you really want to get to know this other
guy, then go for it.
Will your friend be hurt?
Probably, but if he's your friend he
will understand.

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

See I'm leaning towards Needleboys reply

big4life...he didn't understand when I didnt' like him, why would he understand me liking this other guy over him?...I almost don't want to deal with him. When we would go out in a group, and I'd see a hot guy I'd make a comment, and he's say, "but he's nothing compared to me"...gag...gag...he's a sweet good looking guy but doesn't understand why I only like him as a friend.

Sometime no matter how sweet or good looking a guy is, if its not there...its just not there.

But his friend is sweet goodlooking, much more laid back then him, and attracts me But I don't know if that is worth the drama that could occur....so I guess I just answered my own question. But I appreciate all your opinions on it

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

No no no... you are wrong...

stop listening to reason for once, and do what you think is wrong at least for the right reason... shit happens, we all know it.. if you have only known the other boy for a 1 year, that aint shit, and he'll get over it.

Now, i admire your willingness to think of other peoples feelings, thats great, and these days somewhat uncommon, but if you have any feelings at all for the boy you're attracted too, jesus shaggs.. just go out on a date or two and see if he's really all that.. i mean, give him (give yourself really) a chance.

 

[Hannibal]

I agree with what Steroid virgin says for the most part. However, as you yourself stated...if you dont think that he is worth the "drama"...then you have answered your own question. I would not base my answer on your friend. Just decide if this guy is what you want and if he is go get him...you should have no problem

 

[The Ranger]

If he's a true friend, he'll understand....if he doesn't....he never was.....simple Darl'in.....

Ranger

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

If he's a true friend, he'll understand....if he doesn't....he never was.....simple Darl'in.....

Ranger

at what age does a male learn this though Ranger? You I love. But I've yet to find a guy, friend or otherwise, still be a true friend once they liked you and you did not reciprocate their feelings. Either the guys I've been friends with are not true friends (tear...tear) or they haven't reached that maturity.

 

[Hannibal]

at what age does a male learn this though Ranger? You I love. But I've yet to find a guy, friend or otherwise, still be a true friend once they liked you and you did not reciprocate their feelings. Either the guys I've been friends with are not true friends (tear...tear) or they haven't reached that maturity.

Not to speak for Ranger...but males learn this at different ages...IF EVER. Most NEVER learn this...and live life as little boys in grown up bodies.

Luckily some of us figure it out early...

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

at what age does a male learn this though Ranger? You I love. But I've yet to find a guy, friend or otherwise, still be a true friend once they liked you and you did not reciprocate their feelings. Either the guys I've been friends with are not true friends (tear...tear) or they haven't reached that maturity.

ie

At what age do boys become a sucker??? Maybe im reading your quote wrong, but if a true friend of mine reciprocates no feelings at all towards me, guy or gril.. that true friend wont be a true friend very long...

now, if you are talking about having a guy friend who is just a friend having feelings for you, and you dont have feelings for them, and they decide they dont like you anymore... its not really that they dont like you, its that they cant stand to be around something they cant have, and then have to watch other guys have it, and hear about it.. thats pure tourcher, not immaturity.

True feelings of attraction die very hard... Shit happens in life, get a helmet move on!!!

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

It was the second park Steriod.

I guess. I just don't understand it. If I liked a guy, and he wasn't into me, then the attraction would die. Why would you want someone that didn't want you?

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

The attractions dont die over night.. thats why when you split up in a relationship, its good to spend some time apart.. most people dont get over the ex until they find a new love.. unless they were the one to cut it off in the first place.. I dont make the rules man, i just observe them and laugh...

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

But I've yet to find a guy, friend or otherwise, still be a true friend once they liked you and you did not reciprocate their feelings. Either the guys I've been friends with are not true friends (tear...tear) or they haven't reached that maturity.

I'd like to edit this and note:

this is a commonality I have found....however with anything in life there are exceptions to the rule.

 

[Hannibal]

I guess. I just don't understand it. If I liked a guy, and he wasn't into me, then the attraction would die. Why would you want someone that didn't want you?

Well I don't necessarily agree that an attraction for someone is based on their opinion of you. I mean if I was attracted to someone and they felt nothing for me....it wouldn't make them less of a person. So I would still be attracted to them in that sense. However I would subdue those feelings in order to remain friends. That is just the way I am ...maybe I am a sucker as was suggested earlier. I've had to swallow my heart before to keep a female as a friend. Yes...it was worth it...a true friend is worth the "torture". And yes there are jealous moments...but as you said why would you want someone that didn't want you...doesn't mean that I'm not still attracted to them...just in a different way.

"Unattainability, the most intese joy lies not in the having, but in the desire. The light that never fades, the bliss that is eternal is only yours when what you desire is just out of reach"
-Shadowlands-

 

[Hannibal]

this is a commonality I have found....however with anything in life there are exceptions to the rule.

ALWAYS

 

[big4life]

Some guys like the chase. People always want what they
can't or don't have.

Maybe if you found somebody for your friend to
date, that might help, or at least he might finally
see that you're not interested.

He is going to be hurt no matter who you date,
there might be a little more drama for you to deal
with in this case, but you're selling yourself short
if you don't take a chance.

Good luck.

 

[GinNJuice]

Why would you want someone that didn't want you?

OK, shaggs wake up!

First of all: Forget these other chumps.... I'm the only guy for you

However,
Example:
When I was several years younger, I wanted to do the nasty with Christy Brinkley....... well, she didn't know who I was, hence didn't want me.... but that didn't mean that I didn't want her. Ok, it's today and she's a lot older, still doesn't know/want me, but I'd still want her.

I know what you are going to say 'not the same thing'... but that's bullshit..... it IS the same thing. If he liked you before, then he's still gonna like you unless you or he has changed since then. My guess is that you havn't changed.

Now, he'll never look at your relationship as a true friendship because he WANTS you, regardless of how you look at your relationship.

Now, forget this so-called friend if he's going to prevent you from finding someone that YOU want.... that's not friendship!


Now, get your plane ticket and come to Dallas!

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

Some guys like the chase. People always want what they
can't or don't have.

Maybe if you found somebody for your friend to
date, that might help, or at least he might finally
see that you're not interested.

He is going to be hurt no matter who you date,
there might be a little more drama for you to deal
with in this case, but you're selling yourself short
if you don't take a chance.

Good luck.

big4life....where are you in southern us? I really like your quote Thanks for the opinion, its a good one.

 

[b fold the truth]

Well I don't necessarily agree that an attraction for someone is based on their opinion of you. I mean if I was attracted to someone and they felt nothing for me....it wouldn't make them less of a person. So I would still be attracted to them in that sense. However I would subdue those feelings in order to remain friends. That is just the way I am ...maybe I am a sucker as was suggested earlier. I've had to swallow my heart before to keep a female as a friend. Yes...it was worth it...a true friend is worth the "torture". And yes there are jealous moments...but as you said why would you want someone that didn't want you...doesn't mean that I'm not still attracted to them...just in a different way.

A sucker? I feel your pain Hannibal...I feel your pain. I've swallowed my heart a time or two...but only for someone that I cared a ton about. A "true friend" is worth every bit of torture.

B True

 

[Jeff_rys]

Shaggy, quote you:

"What I like about this guy is he's very laid back, low maintaince, doesn't seem to have much baggage, non-emotional and gotts a great body"

Are you serious. It must be his body then. This is (so it seems) a very simple and boring guys once you get to know him.
No, i would not do it, if i where you (that means being a woman hehehe).

And Virgin "Shaggs... all's fair in love & war"

Nothing is fair in war or love but we accept things because that's the way it is.

 

[big4life]

big4life....where are you in southern us? I really like your quote Thanks for the opinion, its a good one.

South Carolina.

You can't make everybody happy girl,
start with the lady you see in the mirror.

 

[needleboy]

Sure, he may man up and try to be understanding, but it will more than likely hurt him. Say he doesn't make a big deal about it, but it still hurts, would you wanna be him if the roles were reversed???

How do you think he'll feel when he hears his friend and you having sex???

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

Re: Shaggy, quote you:

"What I like about this guy is he's very laid back, low maintaince, doesn't seem to have much baggage, non-emotional and gotts a great body"

Are you serious. It must be his body then. This is (so it seems) a very simple and boring guys once you get to know him.

I guess its all what you want. I want a fun guy to hang out with, watch football, have sex.....but I don't want the emotional guy that has to argue about everything, or wants to express his feelings all the time. Actions speak louder than words in my book. Or one thats insecure in himself or me that he gets jealous. Or high maintance, because that definatley won't last. He's actually what I want as far as characterisitics.

 

[danielson]

you would lose the friend. he'd go insane seing you with your new friend everyday. he'd be sick almost everytime your round. how much that means i dunno

 

[Jeff_rys]

ok Shags quote you:

"I guess its all what you want. I want a fun guy to hang out with, watch football, have sex.....but I don't want the emotional guy that has to argue about everything, or wants to express his feelings all the time. Actions speak louder than words in my book. Or one thats insecure in himself or me that he gets jealous. Or high maintance, because that definatley won't last. He's actually what I want as far as characterisitics."

It's not what i want, i am not into guys. Even for occasional sex i would not go for the "simple minded" girl either.
It seems to me that what you want is just the opposite from what you have right now. Are you a twin? You know black or white? There are guys out there not THAT emotional or not THAT stupid.

But hey, if that is what you want go for it. You should not have asked here, since the only answer that has your interest is that someone tells you, you are making the right decision.

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

Re: ok Shags quote you:

[B i would not go for the "simple minded" girl either.
It seems to me that what you want is just the opposite from what you have right now. There are guys out there not THAT emotional or not THAT stupid.

[/B]

OH HOLD UP....I never said stupid.....NEVER NEVER NEVER. I love very intelligent guys. Thats more a turn one then nice pecs or a butt. I was simply referring to a laid back individual that is not overly emotional. I'm very laid back, and not a sensitive person, so I need someone with the like attributes.

 

[Jeff_rys]

well it is difficult for anyone to give you good advice

So it's a jealous guy and that bothers you?

As i see it, it will never last with the guy you are with right now.

There is a conflict of mind and that will never last.

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

Can you ppl fill in your gender? This thread is really confusing otherwise...

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

Can you ppl fill in your gender? This thread is really confusing otherwise...

Is that better Mr. White Castle?

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

Re: well it is difficult for anyone to give you good advice

As i see it, it will never last with the guy you are with right now.

Ummm I'm not with a guy now, hence why I am considering dating this guy. I must have lost you somewhere along the thread dear.

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

ok, well at least now you back to considering it...

it sounded like a lost cause before...

you never write.. i pissed you off with the you like to cfucking omplain shit didn't i? I wont take it back, but at least you know I dont sugar coat my opinions.. besides, I only ment to help you.. too many people kiss your ass around here for your own good.

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

you never write.. i pissed you off with the you like to cfucking omplain shit didn't i? I wont take it back, but at least you know I dont sugar coat my opinions.. besides, I only ment to help you.. too many people kiss your ass around here for your own good.

I don't get pissed of dear However, when you assumed I was complaing because I was asking a question, that I did not understand. You just sounded like a bitter angery man. Then I'll get an e mail where your all normal. Your mood chances as fast as I close topics with Mommkins ass on them.

But you got mail babe:0 Just sdont' write back like an angry bitter man...ok. Cuz then I'll have to bitch slap you for whinning about being alone.

And for the record, no one kisses my ass around here. I've gotten the same shit everyone has, its just I've been here a while, and I guess I get brownie points from some for surviving

 

[Steroid_Virgin]

Oh man... bitch slap me... Puuuuleeeeseeeee... by the way I aint angry, bitter maybe but definately not angry.. I think one has to care to be angry? but I dont know, cuz I dont care.. you a nice girl, cant take that from ya, but look, you have to stop making things so complicated. Id kill if I had my choice of all these girls to ask out, and you.. you're just like, naah not this guy.. well jesus, you have about a million guys who are totally in awe with you.. yeah ok maybe only a handful of those million might be decent guys, and even fewer are attractive, but man... no, i work with this guy, I'm waiting for him to ask me out.. naah his friend would get all pissed... I think at the end of the day, im just jellous of all your options and yet you just sit and wait... maybe I wish i could have your attitude maybe I dont know.. I dont get it

 

[AGENT SHAGWELL]

.. I dont get it

Steriod...1st off you have the same amount of opportunity I have, if not more being a guy its considered your right to do the asking out by society. SO your a head of me on that one

2nd...refer to where I posted this before....but, no matter how nice or goodlooking a guy is ...IF ITS NOT THERE....ITS NOT THERE.

If I could get that feelign with all the guys you claim I have the opportunity with, then I'd be on them like white on rice. But thats not the case. Some call it chemistry, or whatever, but if you don't have it, there is only so far niceness and/or lust can take a person.

 

[Jeff_rys]

Re: Re: well it is difficult for anyone to give you good advice

Ummm I'm not with a guy now, hence why I am considering dating this guy. I must have lost you somewhere along the thread dear.

my bad then. I thought you where with a guy and where attrackted to another.