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MortalCreed

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Hello everyone,

I wanted to ask people here for advise. I am a 22 year old male standing at 6 foot tall and 190 pounds. I started my first steroid cycle about 3 weeks ago and I have gained 13 pounds so far.

The reason i wanted to ask for advise is I want to compete in bodybuilding and love lifting which got me interested in gear. I was mostly frustrated because I have been lifting consistently and eating for 5 years now only to make it to around 177 bulked. I then decided to make the jump on gear. The first thing I did before hand is get my blood tested. after they drew the blood I started my cycle that night. 2 days later they sent me the results and my natural testosterone was at 229 ng/dl which is far below normal especially for my age. That same day I felt the effects of the ethanate in me and my lifetime depression literally left me. that day and I actually had motivation in life and energy. My whole life I was diagnosed with ADD and depression and anxiety and given all these terrible medications with terrible sides.

I feel like a completely new person now. I can actually gain weight and oddly enough my sex drive went down. I had an almost uncontrollable sex drive on low T and now it doesn't torture me like it used to. My backne has cleared up and a shoulder injury completely healed up.

So here is where my question comes in. I am upset that I am plainly just not capable of producing testosterone naturally. I wanted to cycle off at the end but if I do that I go back to depression and everything else. The best option looks like blasting and cruising or at least cruising forever. The issue with that is im worried my balls will dissapear and wont be able to have kids someday. Should I be doing HCG treatments frequently? I just feel stuck and unsure what to do. Especially with such low T I would just lose all gains from the cycle anyway. The oil I was prescribed is more painful and worse then the black market stuff I got and more expensive.

My most recent injection hurts a lot even though I aspirated it feels very inflamed. I can hardly sit which leads me to believe I may be allergic to the carrier oil. Im debating doing a shoulder next because my butt hurts so bad.

What do you guys think? Any advise?

thanks guys.
 
Test E would not have effected you that fast. That was psychosomatic effect


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MortalCreed said:
Hello everyone,

I wanted to ask people here for advise. I am a 22 year old male standing at 6 foot tall and 190 pounds. I started my first steroid cycle about 3 weeks ago and I have gained 13 pounds so far.

The reason i wanted to ask for advise is I want to compete in bodybuilding and love lifting which got me interested in gear. I was mostly frustrated because I have been lifting consistently and eating for 5 years now only to make it to around 177 bulked. I then decided to make the jump on gear. The first thing I did before hand is get my blood tested. after they drew the blood I started my cycle that night. 2 days later they sent me the results and my natural testosterone was at 229 ng/dl which is far below normal especially for my age. That same day I felt the effects of the ethanate in me and my lifetime depression literally left me. that day and I actually had motivation in life and energy. My whole life I was diagnosed with ADD and depression and anxiety and given all these terrible medications with terrible sides.

I feel like a completely new person now. I can actually gain weight and oddly enough my sex drive went down. I had an almost uncontrollable sex drive on low T and now it doesn't torture me like it used to. My backne has cleared up and a shoulder injury completely healed up.

So here is where my question comes in. I am upset that I am plainly just not capable of producing testosterone naturally. I wanted to cycle off at the end but if I do that I go back to depression and everything else. The best option looks like blasting and cruising or at least cruising forever. The issue with that is im worried my balls will dissapear and wont be able to have kids someday. Should I be doing HCG treatments frequently? I just feel stuck and unsure what to do. Especially with such low T I would just lose all gains from the cycle anyway. The oil I was prescribed is more painful and worse then the black market stuff I got and more expensive.

My most recent injection hurts a lot even though I aspirated it feels very inflamed. I can hardly sit which leads me to believe I may be allergic to the carrier oil. Im debating doing a shoulder next because my butt hurts so bad.

What do you guys think? Any advise?

thanks guys.
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BS. Not only did your test show that you was you even said your libido has gone DOWN since started you using. Then there's your age...
 
stevesmi said:
read my previous posts on this subject

also check the last podcast where we talk about this.

cliff notes is you don't need steroids to lift weights. that is a FACT. you just want a short cut is all
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Where are you getting this from? Not once did I say anything about requiring steroids to lift. I don't want a short cut to anything either. I had the ability when I was 19 to go on but decided against it because everyone recommended I wait till 22 minimum. I was patient enough to wait 3.5 years.

I appreciate you chiming in but this comment just felt condescending. I am interesting in your podcast and learning more. What is the name?
 
dylangemelli said:
i agree a million percent
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Hey Dylan,

I have a lot of respect for you and value your opinion. I keep reading the guys comment above and dont understand what he is trying to say. If I am doing something stupid I am willing to correct it but overall I just want to know what your advice on what to do in the future is.

I dont want to go back to such low test levels but is cycling completely off even an option?

I am just kind of frustrated with my whole situation. I didnt want to have to cruise till my 40s.

Right now I just feel like everyone is just calling me an idiot and not explaining anything to actually help. I just came here for a helping hand. Im cool with people telling me im doing something stupid. Thats why I came here to hear advise not just hear people kind of insult me.
 
SteveMobsterG said:
BS. Not only did your test show that you was you even said your libido has gone DOWN since started you using. Then there's your age...
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Hey Man what are you calling BS to? Please explain?

I am willing to learn just please dont talk down to me like this. I just came for advise. I dont understand why my libido went down on gear either. All I know is it did and I like it. It was so bad before hand it was nearly torture. I dont know why it would be like that with low levels either. I promise I am not lying about anything. I have no reason to. What will that get me?

I appreciate the response man I am open to give any needed information I have.
 
MortalCreed said:
Hey Man what are you calling BS to? Please explain?

I am willing to learn just please dont talk down to me like this. I just came for advise. I dont understand why my libido went down on gear either. All I know is it did and I like it. It was so bad before hand it was nearly torture. I dont know why it would be like that with low levels either. I promise I am not lying about anything. I have no reason to. What will that get me?

I appreciate the response man I am open to give any needed information I have.
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The rest of my sentence explained. I highlighted in bold the relevant part. I had Dylan agree and yet you want more.

Here's what you said: ''I am plainly just not capable of producing testosterone naturally.''

Let's start with that. It's BS. You are. You've test that prove it. They might not give you the results you want but they still show that you produce test. Stevesmi has written before that not everyone produces bucket loads of test. You go on to say that your libido WENT DOWN ON TEST. Think about that. There are a thousand posts on these sorts of forums where the members cite having the very opposite effect when they took test. So whatever level you was producing before was sufficient to give you a healthy libido.

So you tell me what part of your statement is BS.
 
So let's now address your opening question. No one needs to cruise for ever. Or, as you later stated, until you're in your 40's. C'mon. If you think you've problems now then what do you think staying on steroids for 18 years would do?
 
SteveMobsterG said:
The rest of my sentence explained. I highlighted in bold the relevant part. I had Dylan agree and yet you want more.

Here's what you said: ''I am plainly just not capable of producing testosterone naturally.''

Let's start with that. It's BS. You are. You've test that prove it. They might not give you the results you want but they still show that you produce test. Stevesmi has written before that not everyone produces bucket loads of test. You go on to say that your libido WENT DOWN ON TEST. Think about that. There are a thousand posts on these sorts of forums where the members cite having the very opposite effect when they took test. So whatever level you was producing before was sufficient to give you a healthy libido.

So you tell me what part of your statement is BS.
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Thank you for the response I understand what you are saying now. What I meant by my body isnt capable of producing test is, its not producing very much and I shouldnt have frased it that way. I honestly have no idea why my libido went down. I expected it to go up. My main concern is if I go back to normal will my depression and lack of energy come back? Will I also lose all gains on only 229 ng? Its not worth it to go back if thats the case but will it damage my fertility or something like that if I cruise long term essentially just doing TRT?

My levels were definitely sufficient to give me a more then good libido but I lacked very much in muscle gain, energy, and depression problems. Have you ever heard of someones libido decreasing on cycle? It really doesn't make sense to me.

I appreciate the responses and I will use your advice. I want to do things right. What was the name of your podcast?

Thanks man
 
there is no way to tell if you are capable of producing testosterone naturally or not at 22 years old based on ONE blood test... your depression and use of medications for an extended period of time likely have a lot to do with the low test levels or at least could be a contributing factor.. you should NOT be using steroids at your age nor attempting to depend on test UNLESS you have seen an endocrinologist who knows your ENTIRE background and history and have deemed you hypogonadal, thus insinuating you have a REAL condition that needs treated... thats not for me, you or anyone online to decide, thats for a doctor decide, which is who you need to seek out and discuss this with to get a TRUE understanding of what is actually going on but you need to STOP using steroids at your age now... you are only going to make things far worse for yourself
 
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