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Should I add Winny??

azchef

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I'm doing my first cycle and It looks this way:
D-Bol 35mg/day weeks 1-4
Test 500mg & Deca 400mg weeks 1-10
Clomid 100mg/day week 13 and 50mg/day weeks 14-15
I have nolva on hand for gyno.
Stats: 6' 190lb 10%bf
my question is, will I be "puffy" without finishing with winny? If I cut d-bol with that take away a lot of bloating? Diet will be right on, low carbs and fat, no liquid but H2O. Can I keep as is and still with diet and hard work, keep good definition?
Thanks
 
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Nooooooooo
That is fine, for a first cycle. If anything that would be too much rather than too little. If you really want to spend more of your hard earned money get arimidex rather than nolva. As far as clomid I think there are better ways to run it then what your doing. Wait to see how your gains are and then start thinking about a second cycle. Hope I helped and if you have any questions pm me. See ya
 
Bro...I'm the type of person that swears by low dosages. You can get grea gains if you eat and train right. That's too much, just like our bro said, for a newbie. I know a dumb ass that's gonna juice up and he hasn't lifted in over a year. Just completely stupid. But this isn't your case. I would lower the dosages. How long have you been working out brother? 190 6'...hmm...I guess you're somewhat thin huh. I would seriously try to go natural first before you do this. I know you want these results right now...but you should get a better base before you do. You'll thank yourself at the end trust me. Again I don't have enough details to say anything, are you just one of those people that CAN'T gain weight?
 
I feel I'm a pretty good size, I started lifting heavy four years ago. At that time I was 160lbs. I've hit a wall, and I'm looking to gain and keep 15lbs. My only question is will I lose a lot of definition without winny? I don't want another cycle to cut, I will diet and train to lean out, just need more size. I have'nt moved up in weight for 3 months, unless it's fat. Fu@$k that!
 
bro...3 months and you think you hit a wall. Try to alternate your routines ok? You're not going to gain and keep 15 lbs. Just won't happen, you WILL lose weight and muscle when you come off. What's your cal intake a day? Let us know so we can help you more...ok?
 
I have been 185 for over 10 months and my body doesn't seem to hold solid weight above 190. I eat 4500cals 250-300 g protein anddo enough cardio to stay fairly lean. I hope to put on 20lbs and with clomid hopefully keep 12-15lbs. Will I look puffy without winny?
 
sorry bro I've been a lil busy, I thought I told you to email me, but I didn't if you have AIM or Hotmail Messenger or ICQ email me your handle peace.
 
If your still going through with it then you could use the Winny towards the end of your cycle @ 50mg/ED for 4-5 weeks. Run it by itself the last three weeks, this way you can start your clomid therapy immediately after instead of guessing when the test/decca leave the body. It will also help get rid of some of the water and harden your muscles up a bit.
 
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