Should I add TRAC Creatine to this Cycle?? Please take a look!

[BillyK]

This is the 1st day of week 7 of my 12 week EQ/Winny/Anavar/Clen/Proviron cycle.

I am doing it like this:

Week 1-12........... 400mg of QV EQ weekly
Week 1-6............. 50mg of TT Winny ED
Week 5-12........... 35mg of SPA Italy Anavar ED
Week 1-12........... 50mg of Proviron ED
Week 1-2, 5-6, 9-10... 0.04mg of Clen-- .5, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.....
Week 3-4, 7-8, 11-12........ ECA Stack
Week 12-15............ HCG and Clomid Post Cycle

I am on the beginning of Week 7 so I have done 7 shots of EQ at 400mg a shot and have finished all six weeks of the Winny. My question is, should I add creatine to my cycle right now since I am on anavar. The thing that I am worried about is Bloating b/c I am doing this cycle to drop as much body fat as possible. I don't want bloat at all. By adding creatine will it bloat me up a lot?? I do about an hour sometimes 2 hours of low intensity cardio 7 days a week. Incline at 15 and speed at 3.2 in which I burn anywhere from 730 to 1460 calories daily depending if I do an hour or two. I also work out 1 body part a day as heavy as I can as well as abs everyday. I eat pretty clean, low carbs - high protein and have noticed a difference in the 6 weeks so far. I just don't want to take creatine if it is going to bloat me b/c thats not the look I am going for. I am trying to stay clear of bloat. Please give me some advice to what I should do. If I should add the creatine or not. Thanks. Billyk

 

[SOLID]

WOW, cycle looks good! How's that working out for you? Stats before- stats now? Yes add the creatine the Var+creatine will work wonder's for you bro. No you will not bloat- that shit's crap! I have never bloated on creating - unless my diet's set up to bulk- meaning lot's of carbs. Lots of carbs+creatine+extra cals are what will cause you to bloat. You'll be fine, and the added creatine will make that cycle all the much better. Let me know how it's going- good luck.

I don't know about Trac BTW- I use CGP by Metabolic Nutrition- good stuff- no bloat! Late

SOLID

 

[lawnsaver]

Creatine is creatine in my book!!

Good Post by my bud Huck Finn from EF

Hey fellas.Just dug up an interesting read out of one of my old Ironman mags.The following excerpts are providided by the notorious Michael Gundill(a.k.a. Dharkam)....Although creatine does have testosterone-like effects,it doesn't act as a steroid hormone.Instead,it's a mediator of some of the androgens' anabolic effects.In fact,steroid users get far more out of their cycles if they take in massive amounts of creatine along with the drugs.Androgens are among the hormones that can force the entry of creatine into muscle cells.While there's a clear relationship between muscle strength gains and increases in muscle creatine stores,unfortunately,the relationship is not as obvious when it comes to increases in muscle mass.Animal-based studies have shown that the muscles of untrained rats take up as much creatine as the muscles of trained rats,but the ANABOLIC effects of creatine are only obvious in trained rats.Therefore,training increases the muscles sensitivity to the anabolic actions of creatine.(Although it's not related to this article,the study also demonstrated that the anabolic effects of creatine are DIRECT,and not mediated by waterretention.In fact,in the 1970s American and Russian studies pointed out a DIRECT anabolic effect of creatine on muscle cells.)Testosterone increases the muscles'sensitivity to the anabolic properties of creatine in addition to enhancing the creatine buildup in muscle fibers.It's also obvious that part of the strength gains people experience while on steroids are mediated by an increase in muscle creatine stores.An interesting discovery A/S users have made is that they should dramatically increase their creatine intake during a cycle to boost the potency of the steroids.Thanks to creatine,people can build more muscle mass with fewer drugs.Anecdotal evidence from A/S users points out that it takes at least 10-15 grams(maintenance)of creatine a day to visibly enhance the the anabolic potency of a steroid stack.There are probably good reasons for the increased creatine requirement when androgen levels are high.As mentioned above,steroids increase the muscle uptake of creatine,and if the muscles are ready to accept more creatine,why not give it to them?I also think that even though steroids enhance creatine synthesis,they may increase creatine degradation as well-so more creatine is used up every day.That could be due to an increase in muscle creatine turnover and also the fact that an elevated muscle protein synthesis rate will likely consume creatine at a faster rate.Other reasons for a higher creatine requirement may be indirect.Because the muscles of drug users are stronger and receive more training,they may waste greater amounts of creatine during training.Once inside the muscle,creatine provides not only an anabolic effect,but also a rapidly mobilized source of fuel.Muscle protein synthesis is a process that wastes great amounts of energy.Anabolism is an ATP-dependent process,which means that it's essential for protein synthesis.If the cellular level of ATP is reduced even a little,IT STOPS ANABOLISM.So even if you can increase the testosterone content of your muscles,nothing will happen if your ATP level is low.Creatine supports anabolism by providing energy to the muscle...Well fellas,it looks like it might be a good idea to stock up on creatine when you're grabbing your protein powder for those bulking cycles,hehheh....Huck

 

[Fat Bastard]

IMO, you should always take creatine w/ any A.S., not just anavar. All gear increases creatine utilization to some degree, so go ahead and add it in. Don't worry about the bloat. If I remember correctly, creatine only increases intramuscular water retention and not subcutaneous water(i.e. your muscles will look swole but not you gut).

 

[animal B]

trac is good shit...use it all the time for my creatine

 

[BillyK]

WOW, cycle looks good! How's that working out for you? Stats before- stats now? Yes add the creatine the Var+creatine will work wonder's for you bro. No you will not bloat- that shit's crap! I have never bloated on creating - unless my diet's set up to bulk- meaning lot's of carbs. Lots of carbs+creatine+extra cals are what will cause you to bloat. You'll be fine, and the added creatine will make that cycle all the much better. Let me know how it's going- good luck.

I don't know about Trac BTW- I use CGP by Metabolic Nutrition- good stuff- no bloat! Late

SOLID

At first i weighed about 197. I am 5'10. Right now I weigh 190 but am twice as strong and a lot leaner. I haven't gotten my body fat tested but will soon and will let you know what it is. I still have my stomach though. At least the top and middle is lean but the bottom of my stomach needs work. I also need to lose some fat in the chest area as well but it all takes time. I will let you know my progress at week 9.

Billyk

 

[SOLID]

right on bro keep up the good work. Do hanging leg raises and really squeeze at the top. Works for me.

 

[lawnsaver]

trac is good shit...use it all the time for my creatine

Is it really that much better??