short cycle bros

[jerkbox]

what does your PCT therapy look like (if any)?

and how long do you take off between short ones.

I'm talking runs of 3-4 weeks here, short acting substances, etc.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I have done a couple short cycles and for the most part everything remains the same as if I was on for 8-12 weeks. Still follow a 3 week Clomid therapy shedule and follow the time on = time off rule. Has worked well for me although I am not a fan of shorter cycles.

M18

 

[jerkbox]

I have done a couple short cycles and for the most part everything remains the same as if I was on for 8-12 weeks. Still follow a 3 week Clomid therapy shedule and follow the time on = time off rule. Has worked well for me although I am not a fan of shorter cycles.

M18

thanks for responding.


i think i am going to stick with the short runs, because i seem to crash hard after a longer one. one thing that concerns me is being on clomid all the time....if i am going 4 weeks on/4 weeks off.

 

[The Terminator]

I am doing my first short one right now (4 weeks of Prop and Var)...So far 9 days in and I'm up 8 lbs (almost the heaviest weight Ive ever been now), and this for an advanced athlete on only 350 mg/week of Prop and 50 mg/day of Anavar...I will NEVER go back to long cycles again (plus I typically stop gaining after the first 2-4 weeks on LONG cycles anyway...)

To be honest I WASNT expecting this much weight from such a light cycle, and I may cut back the Var dosage even more

For PCT I will take atleast 4 weeks off and run aggressive Nolva/Clomid/HCG (1500 IU TOTAL), Tribulus/Avena Sativa/ZMA, etc...

Much like you it has just gotten too hard to recover fast enough after long cycles (plus the gains for ME stop after a short amount of time anyway, so there is little reason to stay on for longer )

 

[dan140]

I am doing my first short one right now (4 weeks of Prop and Var)...So far 9 days in and I'm up 8 lbs (almost the heaviest weight Ive ever been now), and this for an advanced athlete on only 350 mg/week of Prop and 50 mg/day of Anavar...I will NEVER go back to long cycles again (plus I typically stop gaining after the first 2-4 weeks on LONG cycles anyway...)

To be honest I WASNT expecting this much weight from such a light cycle, and I may cut back the Var dosage even more

For PCT I will take atleast 4 weeks off and run aggressive Nolva/Clomid/HCG (1500 IU TOTAL), Tribulus/Avena Sativa/ZMA, etc...

Much like you it has just gotten too hard to recover fast enough after long cycles (plus the gains for ME stop after a short amount of time anyway, so there is little reason to stay on for longer )

Great to see some people advocating LOWER doses and SHORTER/SAFER cycles!!!
Is that Cameron Diaz in your avatar? She's THE most beautiful lady on this planet in my eyes!
You got brains AND taste...this sport needs more of that! Cheers!

 

[gregory]

thanks for responding.


i think i am going to stick with the short runs, because i seem to crash hard after a longer one. one thing that concerns me is being on clomid all the time....if i am going 4 weeks on/4 weeks off.

Drop the clomid and replace it with nolvadex. Same effect. 20mg will stimulte like 150 mg of clomid.

 

[Texas Ranger]

I am doing my first short one right now (4 weeks of Prop and Var)...So far 9 days in and I'm up 8 lbs (almost the heaviest weight Ive ever been now), and this for an advanced athlete on only 350 mg/week of Prop and 50 mg/day of Anavar...I will NEVER go back to long cycles again (plus I typically stop gaining after the first 2-4 weeks on LONG cycles anyway...)

To be honest I WASNT expecting this much weight from such a light cycle, and I may cut back the Var dosage even more

For PCT I will take atleast 4 weeks off and run aggressive Nolva/Clomid/HCG (1500 IU TOTAL), Tribulus/Avena Sativa/ZMA, etc...

Much like you it has just gotten too hard to recover fast enough after long cycles (plus the gains for ME stop after a short amount of time anyway, so there is little reason to stay on for longer )

Good results, Term!!

 

[hard life]

I am on my first low dose 6 week cycle and I am loving it! It's been about 2.5 weeks and my strength is through the roof and I have gained 10 lbs. No more long cycles and long lasting gear for me!!

 

[yomama]

I am on my first low dose 6 week cycle and I am loving it! It's been about 2.5 weeks and my strength is through the roof and I have gained 10 lbs. No more long cycles and long lasting gear for me!!

...yes and it's all water. Way to go!

 

[The_Ghost]

thanks for responding.


i think i am going to stick with the short runs, because i seem to crash hard after a longer one. one thing that concerns me is being on clomid all the time....if i am going 4 weeks on/4 weeks off.

piss on clomid, I haven't used it for 2 years now. Use Nolva instead and you won't end up a whiny bitch.

I was on a hella long one last spring and had no problemo bouncing back.

 

[hard life]

...yes and it's all water. Way to go!

your an idiot.

 

[Texas Ranger]

I am on my first low dose 6 week cycle and I am loving it! It's been about 2.5 weeks and my strength is through the roof and I have gained 10 lbs. No more long cycles and long lasting gear for me!!

What does your cycle look like??

 

[hard life]

I am only taking 150mg npp e3d, 50mgprop eod, and 75mg winny (oral) eod. I am also working out twice a day 5 times a week, eating 7 meals. I am by no means bulking either, I am doing some cardio and am pretty ripped and lean. I am not bloated looking or soft. It's pretty insane actually, first time using npp and it must like me! planning on uping the npp to 300mg soon.

 

[Dave949]

No more long cycles and long lasting gear for me!!

Aside from prop, npp..... what are some of the shorter acting gear including orals and injectable ? thanks.

 

[hammertime30]

I am doing my first short one right now (4 weeks of Prop and Var)...So far 9 days in and I'm up 8 lbs (almost the heaviest weight Ive ever been now), and this for an advanced athlete on only 350 mg/week of Prop and 50 mg/day of Anavar...I will NEVER go back to long cycles again (plus I typically stop gaining after the first 2-4 weeks on LONG cycles anyway...)

To be honest I WASNT expecting this much weight from such a light cycle, and I may cut back the Var dosage even more

For PCT I will take atleast 4 weeks off and run aggressive Nolva/Clomid/HCG (1500 IU TOTAL), Tribulus/Avena Sativa/ZMA, etc...

Much like you it has just gotten too hard to recover fast enough after long cycles (plus the gains for ME stop after a short amount of time anyway, so there is little reason to stay on for longer )

Same here bro....I'm completely done with long cycles....my gains stop after week 5 so the rest of the time I'm just suppressing my values when I could be using the other 5 weeks to recoupe and get ready for the next short run....NO MORE LONG ASS CYCLES !!!!!!! (chanting)

 

[hammertime30]

...yes and it's all water. Way to go!

It doesn't matter if it is all water because even if he ran it 12 weeks, the water gained in the first 2 weeks is not going to turn into muscle.....and will just drop off anyway.....water is water....muscle is muscle....muscle don't turn into water and water don't turn into muscle.........

 

[jerkbox]

Aside from prop, npp..... what are some of the shorter acting gear including orals and injectable ? thanks.

plenty of options there....tren acetate, primo acetate, masteron, dbol, winny, anadrol, anavar, test suspension....

i think for myself, it's gonna be short runs of NPP and prop, and maybe an occasional oral. seems to be working great so far.

 

[LVTitan]

Great to see some people advocating LOWER doses and SHORTER/SAFER cycles!!!
Is that Cameron Diaz in your avatar? She's THE most beautiful lady on this planet in my eyes!
You got brains AND taste...this sport needs more of that! Cheers!

don't you EVER EVER EVER confuse the beautiful angel elisha cuthbert with that hag cameron diaz, or me and term will be knocking on your door directly...j/k bro...go watch the movie girl next door, and have some tissue handy.

 

[yomama]

your an idiot.

Dude, you're an idiot if you think that he gained 10lbs of pure fuckin muscle in 2 and half weeks. He'd be fuckin huge in a single yeah if that was true.

 

[Outtlaw]

Im about to try a 5 weeker. prop/tren/winny or dbol. My first short cycle, so we'll see how it goes.