Shades' Project!!!

[Shades McCool]

Ok this is going my offical diet thread where I will be logging my daily nutrient intake and giving a little info on my weight progress and lifting progress! I will also be buying some yohimburn and will be posting daily progress pictures. Get ready for a fun ride!

 

[*Bunny*]

Ok this is going my offical diet thread where I will be logging my daily nutrient intake and giving a little info on my weight progress and lifting progress! I will also be buying some yohimburn and will be posting daily progress pictures. Get ready for a fun ride!

I see you found a home

Good luck to you!

 

[pintoca]

Bring it on!!!

just a comment, post the pics like in a monthly basis (otherwise it would be like watching grass grow, really slow).

We are ready for it Bro!!!

Pintoca

 

[Shades McCool]

I see you found a home

Good luck to you!

Well I would love to post over on the women's board every now and then but I don't want that bad karma haha!

 

[Shades McCool]

Bring it on!!!

just a comment, post the pics like in a monthly basis (otherwise it would be like watching grass grow, really slow).

We are ready for it Bro!!!

Pintoca

Thanks but the reason I am doing the daily picture deal is because I am already really low in my bodyfat and I want to see what the yohimburn does for me.

 

[jenscats5]

Good luck SM!!

 

[Shades McCool]

I'll go ahead and post my planned meals for the day 2-23-2005....

6 a.m: Two cups of total + 0.5 cup 2% milk

8 am: 4 egg patties

10 am: 1 bowl of tuna with mustard + 1 cup of whole wheat pasta

11:30 am: 1 protein shake

3 p.m: 1 protein shake

6:30 pm: 1 chicken breast with low carb ketchup + 3 servings of low carb peanut butter

8:30 p.m: post-workout protein shake (1.5 servings instead of 1)

Calories: 1865
Calories from fat: 533 or 29%
Calories from carbs: 472 or 26%
Calories from protein: 805 or 44%

Any comments on any changes you see fit are welcome!!!

 

[pintoca]

Thanks but the reason I am doing the daily picture deal is because I am already really low in my bodyfat and I want to see what the yohimburn does for me.

Ok then, let's see how much bang for the buck is in those little bottles...

 

[LeanOnMe]

wtf is an egg patty ?
I might have to try those myself.
Seriously though, good luck.

 

[Shades McCool]

wtf is an egg patty ?
I might have to try those myself.
Seriously though, good luck.

They are patties of eggs. The nutritional content is 4 grams of fat, 1 gram of carbs, 4 grams of protein per patty. They come in a bad of 18 and cost about $3.50.

 

[The Shadow]

I'll go ahead and post my planned meals for the day 2-23-2005....

6 a.m: Two cups of total + 0.5 cup 2% milk

8 am: 4 egg patties

10 am: 1 bowl of tuna with mustard + 1 cup of whole wheat pasta

11:30 am: 1 protein shake

3 p.m: 1 protein shake

6:30 pm: 1 chicken breast with low carb ketchup + 3 servings of low carb peanut butter

8:30 p.m: post-workout protein shake (1.5 servings instead of 1)

Calories: 1865
Calories from fat: 533 or 29%
Calories from carbs: 472 or 26%
Calories from protein: 805 or 44%

Any comments on any changes you see fit are welcome!!!

I personally think the totals cals AND macro splits look REALLY good

 

[ChefWide]

I personally think the totals cals AND macro splits look REALLY good

Yah, me too shads...


sorry if its posted someplace else, but, what are your current stats? as well as 3-6-12 month goals? what is your target with this diet? do you have a date/loss goal?

just wonderin'

cheers

 

[Shades McCool]

Yah, me too shads...


sorry if its posted someplace else, but, what are your current stats? as well as 3-6-12 month goals? what is your target with this diet? do you have a date/loss goal?

just wonderin'

cheers

Right now I am 6' 176lbs and I am guessing I am about 8-9%. I really have some stubborn fat on my abs that I am trying to shed for the warm weather season. Once its over I plan to start bulking as cleanly as I can. Hopefully I can get back up to around 190lbs clean and not put much fat on.

Here are two pictures I have and Ill work on more...
http://www.auburn.edu/~howelre/shirt.jpg
http://www.auburn.edu/~howelre/arm.jpg

 

[Shades McCool]

2-24-05 I went ahead and planned my meals for tomorrow!!

6:00 am: 4 egg whites + 2 packets of cheese grits + 1 cup of milk
7:00 am: Workout - Chest
8:20 am: Post workout shake + apple
10:20 am: Protein shake
12:30 pm: 1 can of tuna + 1 cup of whole wheat pasta
2:30 pm: Protein shake
4:30 pm: 1 chicken breast
9:00 pm- three tablespoons of low carb peanut butter

Total calories: 1863
Calories from Fat: 474 26%
Calories from Carbs: 489 27%
Calories from protein: 856 47%

Comments?

 

[|D_J^B_J|]

Questions/comments/suggestions:

- How are you making your protein shakes? Whey/casein/egg white? In water? Any added carbs/fats?
- Why don't you move the apple to your pre-workout meal instead of post workout?
- What is 'low carb peanut butter'? lol
- Where is your source of vitamins and fibre?? You really should add some fibrous veggies to your diet.

 

[*Bunny*]

low carb peanut butter

I don't see any reason you do not eat regular PB, unless you just prefer the taste. The differences are not that significant in this particular case.

People will suggest all natty PB too but IMHO you will be fine with regular creamy skippy

Check the website to compare labels for their different brands
http://www.peanutbutter.com/products.asp

 

[jenscats5]

2-24-05 I went ahead and planned my meals for tomorrow!!

6:00 am: 4 egg whites + 2 packets of cheese grits + 1 cup of milk -->For fiber, can you switch out the grits for oatmeal??
7:00 am: Workout - Chest
8:20 am: Post workout shake + apple
10:20 am: Protein shake
12:30 pm: 1 can of tuna + 1 cup of whole wheat pasta --> switch pasta for a sweet potato or add some veggies
2:30 pm: Protein shake
4:30 pm: 1 chicken breast --> can you add a green salad with veggies here?? Olive oil + vinegar as dressing?
9:00 pm- three tablespoons of low carb peanut butter --> you could use peanuts or whole almonds here for a change. As Bunny said, check the labels between the types of PB -- regular, ANPB, etc

Total calories: 1863
Calories from Fat: 474 26%
Calories from Carbs: 489 27%
Calories from protein: 856 47%

Comments?

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I think you look really good in your pics, what you want to do shouldn't take long. IMO, you're ready for the beach!!

 

[Shades McCool]

Questions/comments/suggestions:

- How are you making your protein shakes? Whey/casein/egg white? In water? Any added carbs/fats?
- Why don't you move the apple to your pre-workout meal instead of post workout?
- What is 'low carb peanut butter'? lol
- Where is your source of vitamins and fibre?? You really should add some fibrous veggies to your diet.

The apple is for the carbs I need post workouut since my protein shake only has 3. Low carb peanut butter is exactly what it is...low carb...3 grams of carbs. Vitamins come from the total, all I need. The protein is in water.

 

[jenscats5]

The apple is for the carbs I need post workouut since my protein shake only has 3. Low carb peanut butter is exactly what it is...low carb...3 grams of carbs. Vitamins come from the total, all I need. The protein is in water.

Check the label -- how much sugar is in it?? Hydrogenated oils at all?? How about ingredients?? Ideally it should have listed: Peanuts, salt....

 

[*Bunny*]

Check the label -- how much sugar is in it?? Hydrogenated oils at all?? How about ingredients?? Ideally it should have listed: Peanuts, salt....

Anything that says "low carb" annoys me

 

[Shades McCool]

Anything that says "low carb" annoys me

It has one gram of sugar in it and the only reason why I am using it right now is because that I what I had in the kitchen. I also have some all natural PB and Ill use it some too.

 

[*Bunny*]

It has one gram of sugar in it and the only reason why I am using it right now is because that I what I had in the kitchen. I also have some all natural PB and Ill use it some too.

Well, I'll let it slide this time




besides, I saw this : Calories: 1865
Calories from fat: 533 or 29%
Calories from carbs: 472 or 26%
Calories from protein: 805 or 44%

and just thought it wouldn’t really hurt ya to you use regular

wasnt sure if you bought it b/c it's low carb, now I know

 

[Shades McCool]

Well, I'll let it slide this time




besides, I saw this : Calories: 1865
Calories from fat: 533 or 29%
Calories from carbs: 472 or 26%
Calories from protein: 805 or 44%

and just thought it wouldn’t really hurt ya to you use regular

wasnt sure if you bought it b/c it's low carb, now I know

I really dont know what I would do without you! Hey is there anyway I could get an email with all your progress pictures since I am not plat?

 

[*Bunny*]

I really dont know what I would do without you! Hey is there anyway I could get an email with all your progress pictures since I am not plat?

I guess you'll have to just go plat....







(I'll make an exception - PM me your email)

 

[Shades McCool]

I guess you'll have to just go plat....







(I'll make an exception - PM me your email)

I am special!

Well I think that I am going to go ahead and get the yohimburn ordered today so I can have it in time...

I need all of your opinions, I owuld like for it to have plenty of time to get its effect going so how soon out should I use it if I were going to want its best effects by the end of March?

 

[Shades McCool]

2-25-05
6:00 am: 2 servings oif instant grits + 4 scrambled eggs whites

10:00 am: Protein Shake

12:00 pm: 1 can of tuna + 1 cup of whole wheat pasta

1:00 pm: 2 tablespoons of low carb peanut butter

3:30 pm: Post workout shake + apple

8:30 pm: 12 sirloin Rare + large salad with ranch + steamed vegetables + a piece of toast

Sleep....

I have no clue what the breakdown would be due to the fact that the last meal was from my favorite cheap steak place. I am guessing it is somewhere around what it normally is though.

 

[Shades McCool]

2-26-05

10:00 am: 1.5 cups of total + .5 milk + 4 egg patties
11:30 am: 1 can of tuna + 2 cups of whole wheat pasta
1:00 pm: workout - back and shoulders
2:30 pm: post workout shake + apple
4:30 pm: protein shake
6:30 pm: 1 Chicken breast
8:30 pm: Protein shake +2 table spoons of low carb peanut butter

Total calories: 1809
Calories from Fat: 508 25%
Calories from carbs: 500 29%
Calories from Protein: 792 46%

 

[*Bunny*]

2-26-05

10:00 am: 1.5 cups of total + .5 milk + 4 egg patties
11:30 am: 1 can of tuna + 2 cups of whole wheat pasta
1:00 pm: workout - back and shoulders
2:30 pm: post workout shake + apple
4:30 pm: protein shake
6:30 pm: 1 Chicken breast
8:30 pm: Protein shake +2 table spoons of low carb peanut butter

Total calories: 1809
Calories from Fat: 508 25%
Calories from carbs: 500 29%
Calories from Protein: 792 46%

Hey Shadow - since his goal is to cut while maintaining LBM what do you think? I eat more Cals than him ...

 

[the-short-one]

he needs more fiber in the form of vegitables. Green beans, broccolli, salad, etc. The calories they add won't even register, but they're good for your body and will make your body work to digest.

 

[Shades McCool]

he needs more fiber in the form of vegitables. Green beans, broccolli, salad, etc. The calories they add won't even register, but they're good for your body and will make your body work to digest.

You're right, I guess I'll add a salad or something in there sometime during the day.

 

[*Bunny*]

If you can each a spinach salad.

In the words of Daisy_Girl:

"It (spinach) is more than just roughage. Iceburg is nutritionally void - it has basically no nutrients. Spinach is high in iron and other vits/mins, and I bet it is higher in fiber too. If you absolutely CANNOT take in spinach, I would eat romaine instead of iceburg."

 

[Shades McCool]

If you can each a spinach salad.

In the words of Daisy_Girl:

"It (spinach) is more than just roughage. Iceburg is nutritionally void - it has basically no nutrients. Spinach is high in iron and other vits/mins, and I bet it is higher in fiber too. If you absolutely CANNOT take in spinach, I would eat romaine instead of iceburg."

Honestly when I am eating clean, anything looks good to me. I was walking down the aisle at wal-mart the other day and a can of spinach looked so good. It had a spoon filled with spinach on the front and told myself I had hit a new low when it looked so good.

 

[Shades McCool]

Ok boys and girls here are some pictures I took today...go ahead and kill me with comments...

Front
Side
Side 2
Tri
Right bi
Left bi

6' 175.2 lbs.....

 

[jenscats5]

2-26-05

10:00 am: 1.5 cups of total + .5 milk + 4 egg patties
11:30 am: 1 can of tuna + 2 cups of whole wheat pasta
1:00 pm: workout - back and shoulders
2:30 pm: post workout shake + apple
4:30 pm: protein shake
6:30 pm: 1 Chicken breast
8:30 pm: Protein shake +2 table spoons of low carb peanut butter

Total calories: 1809
Calories from Fat: 508 25%
Calories from carbs: 500 29%
Calories from Protein: 792 46%

At your 6:30pm meal, you definitely should add a veggie/salad.....

A mix of greens would work -- arugula, Spring Mix, endive, romaine, spinach, etc..... Or a "pile" of cooked greens, like kale, collards, spinach, etc....

 

[Shades McCool]

Now that I have been thinking about it I have no clue what I should do? Should I continue to stay at this weight? Should I try and put on some clean mass and be bigger? Its crazy, you think you know what you want and then you want something else...also is 1900-2000 calories a day enough for someone as active as me and not lose muscle mass?

 

[the-short-one]

Now that I have been thinking about it I have no clue what I should do? Should I continue to stay at this weight? Should I try and put on some clean mass and be bigger? Its crazy, you think you know what you want and then you want something else...also is 1900-2000 calories a day enough for someone as active as me and not lose muscle mass?

I already told you you that you should be keeping your cals aroun 2100 a day. And that's to lose fat. IF you want to maintain with your current active lifestyle, you need around 3000 cals a day. It sounds like a lot, but after looking at your pictures, I'm convinced it's what you need.

Expecially when a can of spinach looks good.

 

[jenscats5]

I already told you you that you should be keeping your cals aroun 2100 a day. And that's to lose fat. IF you want to maintain with your current active lifestyle, you need around 3000 cals a day. It sounds like a lot, but after looking at your pictures, I'm convinced it's what you need.

Expecially when a can of spinach looks good.

I agree -- try it......if you don't see a difference in 4-6 weeks via pictures, then change it again....

 

[Shades McCool]

I already told you you that you should be keeping your cals aroun 2100 a day. And that's to lose fat. IF you want to maintain with your current active lifestyle, you need around 3000 cals a day. It sounds like a lot, but after looking at your pictures, I'm convinced it's what you need.

Expecially when a can of spinach looks good.

Ok so I guess you are saying that if I wanted to stay right where I am at 175lbs , then I would need 3000 cals/day? Wow that does seem like a lot. What about my pictures makes you think that? Right now I am going to bump closer to 2100 calories for a week and see what that does. My yohimburn is on the way and it may solve my ab problem and clean them up somewhat. I dont see any other problems when it comes to bodyfat except on my abs.

Thanks again!

 

[Sassy69]

To give you an idea of eating around 1800 cals -- I'm 5'7", 155 lb and prior to my change in diet last week (3 low carb days, 1 massive carb up day, repeat) I was eating around 17-1800 cals. On that I lost >5% bodyfat in 6 weeks. The abs fat is going to be the last to go, just like my ass / hips are the last to go because that's where I (as a female) have the highest concentration of fat cells. Especially at your age you are producing the highest level of natural test and you don't want to squander that muscle builing opportunity by not eating enough and havign your body catabolize the muscle you have.

 

[pintoca]

Ok so I guess you are saying that if I wanted to stay right where I am at 175lbs , then I would need 3000 cals/day? Wow that does seem like a lot. What about my pictures makes you think that? Right now I am going to bump closer to 2100 calories for a week and see what that does. My yohimburn is on the way and it may solve my ab problem and clean them up somewhat. I dont see any other problems when it comes to bodyfat except on my abs.

Thanks again!

Take the guess out of it and calculate your basic numbers.

You can then use those numbers as a baseline calculation.

Check this out: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374938

if you need help let me know.

Pintoca

 

[Shades McCool]

Whats the most non-whey protein I could take in at once?

 

[The Shadow]

I already told you you that you should be keeping your cals aroun 2100 a day. And that's to lose fat. IF you want to maintain with your current active lifestyle, you need around 3000 cals a day. It sounds like a lot, but after looking at your pictures, I'm convinced it's what you need.

Expecially when a can of spinach looks good.

Ive told him the same thing...repeatedly....people will do what they want to do----thats the bottom line

 

[Shades McCool]

Ive told him the same thing...repeatedly....people will do what they want to do----thats the bottom line

Look, I am not trying to be difficult. You told me to cut with 10-12x my body weight with a 40-30-30 split. Well thats a 1800-2100 calorie range. You even told me that my diet looked great on this thread. I have been eating that and people tell me its not enough.

So I ask how much is enough, and I get 2100 would be fine to continue cutting but if I wanted to stay where I was at 3000 is what I would need. I am not saying anyone is wrong or right. I am just trying to get everything straight. I want to cut but I want to do it without sacrificing much lean muscle. If that means I eat 2200 calories a day then that is fine. Once I get to a point I am comfortable at I will start eating a maintance calorie level.

You people act like I am turning my nose up to the advice. I am just trying to get it all straight.

 

[Shades McCool]

2-27-05

10:00 am: 2 servings of grits mixed with 4 scrambled egg whites + 2 cups of 2% milk
11:30 am: Protein shake
1:30 pm: 1 Can of tuna + 1.5 cups of whole wheat pasta
3:00 pm: Protein shake
5:30 pm: Chicken breast + 1.25 servings of low carb peanut butter
7:30 pm: Championship Intramural basketball game
8:45 pm: apple
9:30 pm: Protein shake + 0.75 servings of low carb peanut butter

Total Calories: 2056
Calories from Fats: 513 26%
Calories from Carbs: 604 30%
Calories from Protein: 867 46%

Tomorrow Ill get closer to 2100.

 

[*Bunny*]

You people act like I am turning my nose up to the advice. I am just trying to get it all straight.

Easy there killer

No worries, Great job on getting those cals up

 

[Shades McCool]

Easy there killer

No worries, Great job on getting those cals up

Thanks Bunni. I just didn't want people to think I was being difficult. I shouldnt worry because I know even at 2100 calories a day I am probably running a good deficit. I just dont want to regress and start adding fat again.

 

[*Bunny*]

Thanks Bunni. I just didn't want people to think I was being difficult. I shouldnt worry because I know even at 2100 calories a day I am probably running a good deficit. I just dont want to regress and start adding fat again.

No Prob, I know you just want things to be clear.

Since your goal is a little more defined now, just apply the advice.

 

[The Shadow]

Look, I am not trying to be difficult. You told me to cut with 10-12x my body weight with a 40-30-30 split. Well thats a 1800-2100 calorie range. You even told me that my diet looked great on this thread. I have been eating that and people tell me its not enough.

So I ask how much is enough, and I get 2100 would be fine to continue cutting but if I wanted to stay where I was at 3000 is what I would need. I am not saying anyone is wrong or right. I am just trying to get everything straight. I want to cut but I want to do it without sacrificing much lean muscle. If that means I eat 2200 calories a day then that is fine. Once I get to a point I am comfortable at I will start eating a maintance calorie level.

You people act like I am turning my nose up to the advice. I am just trying to get it all straight.

Listen to who you want......


btw - take your weight and multiply by 12.



isnt that about 2100??

thought so.....

"you people"

LMAO


nice attitude Sparky

 

[Shades McCool]

Listen to who you want......


btw - take your weight and multiply by 12.



isnt that about 2100??

thought so.....

"you people"

LMAO


nice attitude Sparky

I meant no disrespect but it seemed like I was getting slammed. Sorry.

 

[Shades McCool]

6:00 am: 1.5 cups of total + 1 cup of 2% milk
7:00 am: sprints at the track
8:15 am: 4 egg patties + 1 turkey sausage link
10:30 am: protein shake
12:30 pm: 1 can of tuna + 1 cup of whole wheat tuna
2:00 pm: Workout - chest and abs
4:00 pm: post workout shake + banana
6:00 pm: chicken breast + 2 tablesponns of low carb peanut butter

Total calories: 2078
Calories from Fat: 545 27%
Calories from Carbs: 552 27%
Calories from Protein: 914 45%

The calories are up and I'll stick with it. Comments on ANYTHING would be appreciated.

 

[|D_J^B_J|]

I still think you should add more fibrous (green) veggies to your diet. Bear in mind the recommended daily intake for the AVERAGE person is FIVE (5) servings a day. Your activity level is much greater than the average person so you would need more than this. Choices such as spinach, broccolli, brussell sprouts and cucumber (to name a few) will add little carbs and calories to your diet but a hell of a lot of nutrients.

 

[Shades McCool]

I still think you should add more fibrous (green) veggies to your diet. Bear in mind the recommended daily intake for the AVERAGE person is FIVE (5) servings a day. Your activity level is much greater than the average person so you would need more than this. Choices such as spinach, broccolli, brussell sprouts and cucumber (to name a few) will add little carbs and calories to your diet but a hell of a lot of nutrients.

I picked up some spinach last night and will be working into my diet starting tuesday.

 

[*Bunny*]

I picked up some spinach last night and will be working into my diet starting tuesday.

...the sooner the better...

 

[jenscats5]

Thanks Bunni. I just didn't want people to think I was being difficult. I shouldnt worry because I know even at 2100 calories a day I am probably running a good deficit. I just dont want to regress and start adding fat again.

Look you!! Don't make me come over there & smack you! LOL Just jokin' around with you....

Don't be so anal about the adding fat thing.....you're young so I doubt you'll puff up overnight....And after 6 weeks, if you don't like how you look, change it up....

AND START ADDING MORE MORE MORE VEGGIES TO YOUR DIET!! NOW!! LOL

 

[Shades McCool]

Look you!! Don't make me come over there & smack you! LOL Just jokin' around with you....

Don't be so anal about the adding fat thing.....you're young so I doubt you'll puff up overnight....And after 6 weeks, if you don't like how you look, change it up....

AND START ADDING MORE MORE MORE VEGGIES TO YOUR DIET!! NOW!! LOL

Yes ma'am!!!

 

[*Bunny*]

Yes ma'am!!!

Way to Jens

 

[Shades McCool]

3-1-05
5:15 am: 2 servings of grits + 4 egg whites + 1 turkey sausage + 1 cup of milk
6:30 am: Workout - Tri's/Bi's
7:30 am: Post-workout shake + banana
9:15 am: Protein shake
12:30 pm: 1 can of tuna + 1 cup of whole wheat pasta
4:30 pm: 2 talapia filets + 1 can os spinach
8:30 pm: 1.5 tablespoons of low carb peanut butter

Total Calories: 2038
Calories from fat: 497 or 25%
Calories from Carbs: 576 or 29%
Calories from Protein: 933 or 46%

Comments please....as you see there are some greens in there now!

 

[*Bunny*]

Gettin' closer

Curious....What do you use for your protein shake?

 

[Shades McCool]

Gettin' closer

Curious....What do you use for your protein shake?

ON 100% Instantized Whey

23g per serving, 3 g of carbs with 1 coming from sugars....

 

[6_pak]

I still think you should add more fibrous (green) veggies to your diet. Bear in mind the recommended daily intake for the AVERAGE person is FIVE (5) servings a day. Your activity level is much greater than the average person so you would need more than this. Choices such as spinach, broccolli, brussell sprouts and cucumber (to name a few) will add little carbs and calories to your diet but a hell of a lot of nutrients.

I agree in the importance of veggies in the diet, but to step on all the HARDCORE veggy believers out there, i mainly use it as a filler when cutting. When bulking if you can still eat 5 servings of veggies on top of all the necessary carbs,pro,fat that one needs to grow, then by all means eat up. My stomach doesnt allow me to eat 5000-6000cals plus 5 servings of veggies. I find them to be a great filler and as far as the nutritional benefits, well, thats why i eat tons of vitamins daily. I hate to downplay the importance of them, b/c as we all know they give us great benefits, i just prioritize what is essential for me to reach my goals and what necessarily isnt.
To give advice i would say to always ingest some form of vitamin on a daily basis and depending on current goals eat as many veggies as you can stand or load up on the multi-s.

 

[|D_J^B_J|]

I agree in the importance of veggies in the diet, but to step on all the HARDCORE veggy believers out there, i mainly use it as a filler when cutting. When bulking if you can still eat 5 servings of veggies on top of all the necessary carbs,pro,fat that one needs to grow, then by all means eat up. My stomach doesnt allow me to eat 5000-6000cals plus 5 servings of veggies. I find them to be a great filler and as far as the nutritional benefits, well, thats why i eat tons of vitamins daily. I hate to downplay the importance of them, b/c as we all know they give us great benefits, i just prioritize what is essential for me to reach my goals and what necessarily isnt.
To give advice i would say to always ingest some form of vitamin on a daily basis and depending on current goals eat as many veggies as you can stand or load up on the multi-s.

You raise a fair point on the possibility of not being able to fit in the necessary starchy carbs and protein if you eat too many veggies while bulking (since the fibre in the veggies does fill you up), but the thread starter is looking to cut, and cutting without veggies will lead to hunger throughout the day and bad results.

 

[6_pak]

You raise a fair point on the possibility of not being able to fit in the necessary starchy carbs and protein if you eat too many veggies while bulking (since the fibre in the veggies does fill you up), but the thread starter is looking to cut, and cutting without veggies will lead to hunger throughout the day and bad results.

AGREED!!!

 

[Shades McCool]

Note to self: spinach is horrible. Don't buy again. I am not THAT hungry.

 

[6_pak]

Note to self: spinach is horrible. Don't buy again. I am not THAT hungry.

Go to Kroger buy the packets of fresh green beans, boil them. They are delicious and filling.

 

[jenscats5]

Note to self: spinach is horrible. Don't buy again. I am not THAT hungry.

See my recipe for Creamed Spinach in the Recipe Thread sticky in the Women's Forum -- you'll like spinach....

 

[pintoca]

Note to self: spinach is horrible. Don't buy again. I am not THAT hungry.

MIx it with Ricotta... yummy

 

[|D_J^B_J|]

Note to self: spinach is horrible. Don't buy again. I am not THAT hungry.

What???

Personally, I love spinach... I guess it's just an acquired taste.

*Thinking back to those popeye episodes as a kid*

 

[*Bunny*]

What???

Personally, I love spinach... I guess it's just an acquired taste.

*Thinking back to those popeye episodes as a kid*

The way I have my spinach chicken salad allows me to get it down, and now I LOVE it.

But, I'm with SM ... I'll hurl if I eat it out of a can for sure.

In those old episodes wasn't there a look of distaste look on his face when eating the spinach?

 

[jenscats5]

Canned spinach = blech!!

Frozen or fresh for sure....

 

[|D_J^B_J|]

Lol, I must admit, my taste buds are rather unique (or perhaps my sense of taste is weak allowing me to stomach foods most people don't like)....

Anyone else eat natty PB with their tuna?

 

[jenscats5]

Lol, I must admit, my taste buds are rather unique (or perhaps my sense of taste is weak allowing me to stomach foods most people don't like)....

Anyone else eat natty PB with their tuna?

Absolutely NOT!!

 

[Shades McCool]

I ate it straight out of the can....bad idea....man I can hardly keep my eyes open this morning.

 

[pintoca]

Lol, I must admit, my taste buds are rather unique (or perhaps my sense of taste is weak allowing me to stomach foods most people don't like)....

Anyone else eat natty PB with their tuna?

That must be a down under thing...

 

[|D_J^B_J|]

That must be a down under thing...

Speaking of the native food here, kangaroo meat is one of the leanest meats available (I think 2g fat per 100g) and has 3 times as much CLA as lamb.

I'm just curious if you can you get it anywhere outside of Oz?? Whenever I have to eat at a restaurant and don't want the creamy sauce they top the fish with or don't feel like top round steak, I always order grilled kangaroo meat because I know it'll always be lean.

 

[pintoca]

Speaking of the native food here, kangaroo meat is one of the leanest meats available (I think 2g fat per 100g) and has 3 times as much CLA as lamb.

I'm just curious if you can you get it anywhere outside of Oz?? Whenever I have to eat at a restaurant and don't want the creamy sauce they top the fish with or don't feel like top round steak, I always order grilled kangaroo meat because I know it'll always be lean.

Well, you can get it in Germany at Walmart..but definitely not in Restaurants... it's not mainstream...

It started to appear in Supermarkets (together with Ostrich and Emu) back in 2001 when the mad Cow crazyness was at an All time high... and people were scared to death to eat beef... so they got creative and started importing all sort of meats...

 

[jenscats5]

Speaking of the native food here, kangaroo meat is one of the leanest meats available (I think 2g fat per 100g) and has 3 times as much CLA as lamb.

I'm just curious if you can you get it anywhere outside of Oz?? Whenever I have to eat at a restaurant and don't want the creamy sauce they top the fish with or don't feel like top round steak, I always order grilled kangaroo meat because I know it'll always be lean.

I have never seen 'Roo around here -- heck we just started carrying Buffalo at stores!!

 

[pintoca]

I have never seen 'Roo around here -- heck we just started carrying Buffalo at stores!!

Buffalo I would like to taste... we only have Buffalo (well, Female Buffalo) mozzarela here, but not meat.

 

[jenscats5]

Buffalo I would like to taste... we only have Buffalo (well, Female Buffalo) mozzarela here, but not meat.

Where are you located??

I don't think we can get buffalo mozz. imported from Italy here in the US -- I thought I heard it was against the law.... But buffalo are now farm raised here & Trader Joe's sells buffalo patties & I've seen it in the grocery store ground....

It's good, but cuz it has so little fat -- it's easy to overcook & it dries out BIG TIME!!

Sorry, Shades for the hijacking....LOL

 

[pintoca]

Where are you located??

I don't think we can get buffalo mozz. imported from Italy here in the US -- I thought I heard it was against the law.... But buffalo are now farm raised here & Trader Joe's sells buffalo patties & I've seen it in the grocery store ground....

It's good, but cuz it has so little fat -- it's easy to overcook & it dries out BIG TIME!!

Sorry, Shades for the hijacking....LOL

Been living in south Germany for the past 4 years.

yep, sorry for the hijacking...

 

[jenscats5]

Shades -- here's the Creamed Spinach Recipe.... try it, it's really good...

1 bag fresh spinach or 1 package frozen spinach, thawed & moisture squeezed out
3/4 cup Carb Countdown Milk (I used the FF) -- or use skim (1/2 cup)
1-2 tsp. cornstarch (depending on how thick you want it)
3 oz cheese (I used FF cheddar)
1/2 cup chopped onion
Dash nutmeg
Sprinkle Italian Seasoning

Mix milk & cornstarch together in a small bowl & set aside. Cook fresh spinach & set aside. Cook onion till tender over medium heat & add seasonings. Add milk mixture & cook till just begins to bubble. Add cheese & stir till cheese melts. Add spinach & stir thru till heated.

 

[Shades McCool]

Ok here are some update pics after I have been on the yohimburn for three days....

Before

Abs sorta
Chest
Left Bicep hanging
Right Bicep Hanging
Side Flex

I doubt you can tell much progress but I said I would post up pictures when I went on yohimburn....I'll keep it up too!

 

[pintoca]

Ok here are some update pics after I have been on the yohimburn for three days....

Before

Abs sorta
Chest
Left Bicep hanging
Right Bicep Hanging
Side Flex

I doubt you can tell much progress but I said I would post up pictures when I went on yohimburn....I'll keep it up too!

I have to be honest here dude: You were looking good before and you look good now. Really can't tell much difference, but I am sure that at that level takes a lot for additional improvements to show, so keep it up!!! Glad to see people keeping their promises

Pintoca

 

[Shades McCool]

I have to be honest here dude: You were looking good before and you look good now. Really can't tell much difference, but I am sure that at that level takes a lot for additional improvements to show, so keep it up!!! Glad to see people keeping their promises

Pintoca

Yeah I didnt expect anything after three days....

 

[*Bunny*]

Yeah I didnt expect anything after three days....

Hey Shades, GREAT pics!
The side flex is my favorite .

You look FABulous already, the results you will see should be outstanding.

Great work sweetie!

 

[Shades McCool]

Hey Shades, GREAT pics!
The side flex is my favorite .

You look FABulous already, the results you will see should be outstanding.

Great work sweetie!

I love that a woman of your caliber thinks the pictures are great! Thanks babe!

 

[jenscats5]

Ok here are some update pics after I have been on the yohimburn for three days....

Before

Abs sorta
Chest
Left Bicep hanging
Right Bicep Hanging
Side Flex

I doubt you can tell much progress but I said I would post up pictures when I went on yohimburn....I'll keep it up too!

AWESOME!! Very very nice......

 

[*Bunny*]

AWESOME!! Very very nice......

In the words of my great teacher ...."Yummmm"


jens

 

[jenscats5]

In the words of my great teacher ...."Yummmm"


jens

:sigh: @ young, fit guys..... my step daughter needs to start dating guys like this....

Hey girl....

 

[*Bunny*]

I love that a woman of your caliber thinks the pictures are great! Thanks babe!

well thank you

 

[pintoca]

well thank you

After reading the caliber part, curiosity woke up in me and I HAD to go check Bunny's gallery...

now let me tell you a little secret: All you Non-Plats: You are missing out BIG TIME!!! Bunny is smoking hot... GAWWD!!! Besides knowing her stuff and being an overall nice girl.

And Bunny, that bald cat is hilarious!!! what ever hapenned to him?

After looking at a Gallery like that I feel so under-par!!!

 

[*Bunny*]

After reading the caliber part, curiosity woke up in me and I HAD to go check Bunny's gallery...

now let me tell you a little secret: All you Non-Plats: You are missing out BIG TIME!!! Bunny is smoking hot... GAWWD!!! Besides knowing her stuff and being an overall nice girl.

And Bunny, that bald cat is hilarious!!! what ever hapenned to him?

After looking at a Gallery like that I feel so under-par!!!

Awww shucks, I am just blushing like a freshly spankin' tush

Thanks for the kind words.

"You must spread some Karma around before giving it to pintoca again."

 

[jenscats5]

Bunny is the schizzle......... fo nizzle

 

[pintoca]

Bunny is the schizzle......... fo nizzle

foh sure!!!

 

[*Bunny*]

Bunny is the schizzle......... fo nizzle

fo sheezy beeeatch MUAH


www.threadjackersanon.com

Sowwy Shades

 

[Shades McCool]

fo sheezy beeeatch MUAH


www.threadjackersanon.com

Sowwy Shades

This thread is supposed to be about me and how great I am!!!!

 

[*Bunny*]

This thread is supposed to be about me and how great I am!!!!

You already know my thoughts on that Doc

 

[jenscats5]

This thread is supposed to be about me and how great I am!!!!

 

[Shades McCool]

Thats more like it....sorry the pics were blurry...which was your fav Jen?

 

[jenscats5]

Thats more like it....sorry the pics were blurry...which was your fav Jen?

I think I'm gonna have to go with the abs shot....

 

[*Bunny*]

I think I'm gonna have to go with the abs shot....

with chocolate on top...and whipped cream... strawberry? maybe a bunny?



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