semi sore nips, help a guy out

[joker261]

hi guys im new here and was just looking for advice on gyno. i was taking dutasteride for 3 weeks and quit because it was hurting my strength alot in the gym, aside from not hitting the gym for over half a year.

well, a week after i quit my nips started to get sore at times n seem puffy. it doesnt hurt really, but i can feel them exist..as opposed to not feel them at all...i was feeling for lumps n pinching the shit out of them and tht made it hurt alot more, i dunno how big the lumps should be or how it should feel.

so i was wondering if this is gyno or signs of gyno to come. my friend who posts here says its not tht serious and worse comes to worse i should take arimedex? or the liquid version from ancillaryguys, since he said his was worse n didnt do shit for 3 months about it and it went away after taking that.

i tried looking for more posts on gyno but i read conflicting things so i dunno which would be better..nolva or arimedex? i was thinkin bout juicin for the 1st time but after this i doubt i ever will...should i just wait it out n see if it'll go away after the dutasteride clears up? any response is much appreciated

 

[ruggermu]

Nolvadex is the way to go. And yeah AC Guys sell there's a link up in the stickies.

 

[stuck]

Arimidex to prevent gyno from day 1, Nolvadex for once you think you have it.

 

[littleb]

nolvadex as said already is what you need if the nips itch already, but you can take the a dex as well then when the gyno sides pass quit the nolva and keep using the adex to prevent it from coming back. also keep nolva on hand just in case, if gyno goes untreated, it may not go away later, the trick is catch it b4 it starts. good luck bro..

 

[bigmann245]

my question is, why didnt you have the nolva or arimidex on hand before you started? not to bash you but if your going to do any type of juice and specially if it is one you havent tried before, you need to have these preventitive drugs on hand. i know hind-sight is 20/20 but this is for newbe's that read this and wonder what should have been done tp prevent this from happening to them. sorry to hear your situation, but it is correctible. use the nolva but in the future make sure you have all your gear before you start any cycle, definately if you stop your cycle cold turkey and not taper your dose.

 

[wayneboard1]

my question is, why didnt you have the nolva or arimidex on hand before you started? not to bash you but if your going to do any type of juice and specially if it is one you havent tried before, you need to have these preventitive drugs on hand. i know hind-sight is 20/20 but this is for newbe's that read this and wonder what should have been done tp prevent this from happening to them. sorry to hear your situation, but it is correctible. use the nolva but in the future make sure you have all your gear before you start any cycle, definately if you stop your cycle cold turkey and not taper your dose.

VERY good advice.

 

[krishna]

A lot of people take dutasteride and don't know the side effects, one of which is GYNO! I talked to a doc and he said he would not recommend it to anyone. They did a study on DHT levels in men who take dutasteride, and after 2 months, 30 men had an average decrease in DHT by 78%. More than half of these guys still had DHT levels below 50% of the normal range after a year, and this was after only using dutasteride for 2 months. The drug can have some serious long-term effects for males. You need DHT in your body unless you want to develop female characteristics. Hop on the nolva pronto!

 

[joker261]

my question is, why didnt you have the nolva or arimidex on hand before you started? not to bash you but if your going to do any type of juice and specially if it is one you havent tried before, you need to have these preventitive drugs on hand. i know hind-sight is 20/20 but this is for newbe's that read this and wonder what should have been done tp prevent this from happening to them. sorry to hear your situation, but it is correctible. use the nolva but in the future make sure you have all your gear before you start any cycle, definately if you stop your cycle cold turkey and not taper your dose.

i never juiced, this was strictly from dutasteride...if u read my post correctly i stated tht i was contemplating on juicing but since im apperently sensitive to gyno i probably wont

 

[musclemuscle]

i never juiced, this was strictly from dutasteride...if u read my post correctly i stated tht i was contemplating on juicing but since im apperently sensitive to gyno i probably wont

mommma says steroids are the devil

 

[joker261]

much thx for the reply guys....yeah im gettin scared now about how long till my normal dht levels come back...i'd rather lose hair than gain pointy nipples..i'll order the nolva on monday...i figure i'd test out the dutas since propecia didnt hit me as hard...i was going to quit if the dutas was too hardcore in which this case it was.

usually i feel very confrontational when ppl giv me a dirty look, and i jerk off like once a day....in the prior weeks i found myself depressed, missing my g/f, low sex drive, and praying for world peace...geez is this how its like wit too much estrogen? i actually want the dht back. hopefully this shit will calm down..thx guys

 

[joker261]

ok guys, i ordered it alot sooner...couldnt take the puffed look anymore n got scared shitless when i saw the gyno surgery prices....i ordered the nolva because i think i have it although it does not itch, but does feel semi sore at certain times. it is puffy around the center part....i was wondering if i didnt have gyno and if nolva can still help because then i might change it for arimidex or add tht as well...my hormones are probly fucked up right now and i hear armidex can remove too much estrogen. i have no idea what men would need estrogen for but i dont want to make the same mistake as with the dht.

edit* also what amount of dosages should i take with the dropper daily or weekly?

 

[H_T_]

i had a sore lump for almost a year after i quit aas, it just now went away. it didn't take anything for it, though. i hope it's not a cancerous tumor festering in chest cavity.

 

[H_T_]

kinda sucks too, cuz my gf is a kinky bitch who loves her nipple twisting.

 

[Mr.X]

hi guys im new here and was just looking for advice on gyno. i was taking dutasteride for 3 weeks and quit because it was hurting my strength alot in the gym, aside from not hitting the gym for over half a year.

well, a week after i quit my nips started to get sore at times n seem puffy. it doesnt hurt really, but i can feel them exist..as opposed to not feel them at all...i was feeling for lumps n pinching the shit out of them and tht made it hurt alot more, i dunno how big the lumps should be or how it should feel.

so i was wondering if this is gyno or signs of gyno to come. my friend who posts here says its not tht serious and worse comes to worse i should take arimedex? or the liquid version from ancillaryguys, since he said his was worse n didnt do shit for 3 months about it and it went away after taking that.

i tried looking for more posts on gyno but i read conflicting things so i dunno which would be better..nolva or arimedex? i was thinkin bout juicin for the 1st time but after this i doubt i ever will...should i just wait it out n see if it'll go away after the dutasteride clears up? any response is much appreciated

I suggest you run arimidex at at least 0.5mgs ED on most cycle, for you, you need to start a nolva regiment ASAP - think of it this way, if it's not gyno at least you did the right thing to prevent it, if it is gyno then you still did the right thing. So get on a nolva run right away.

Mr.X

 

[krishna]

much thx for the reply guys....yeah im gettin scared now about how long till my normal dht levels come back...i'd rather lose hair than gain pointy nipples..i'll order the nolva on monday...i figure i'd test out the dutas since propecia didnt hit me as hard...i was going to quit if the dutas was too hardcore in which this case it was.

usually i feel very confrontational when ppl giv me a dirty look, and i jerk off like once a day....in the prior weeks i found myself depressed, missing my g/f, low sex drive, and praying for world peace...geez is this how its like wit too much estrogen? i actually want the dht back. hopefully this shit will calm down..thx guys

How lond did you take the dutasteride? Docs don't yet know if it screws up DHT levels permanently. It wouldn't hurt to get some proviron too. Just use topical androgen antagonists and DHT blockers for your hair, nothing else internal. Maybe you can be a testament to the dangers of dutasteride use to people who want to use it without knowing the risks.

 

[joker261]

I suggest you run arimidex at at least 0.5mgs ED on most cycle, for you, you need to start a nolva regiment ASAP - think of it this way, if it's not gyno at least you did the right thing to prevent it, if it is gyno then you still did the right thing. So get on a nolva run right away.

Mr.X

yeah i was thinking the same thing...there is no pain most of the time unless i press really hard on it and its not itchy..but it is alot bigger than usual and more of a mound...its either my nips got stretched out from the added water on my chest or its mild gyno...either way the nolva can't hurt atleast..i can live with the bloat but not the nips

 

[Advisor_x]

Better safe than sorry............

 

[joker261]

How lond did you take the dutasteride? Docs don't yet know if it screws up DHT levels permanently. It wouldn't hurt to get some proviron too. Just use topical androgen antagonists and DHT blockers for your hair, nothing else internal. Maybe you can be a testament to the dangers of dutasteride use to people who want to use it without knowing the risks.

3 weeks or so and 6+ months of not working out..i'm not 100% sure if it is gyno except for the fact my nips look different..so it could be stretched from bloat or just gyno to come..or plain gyno...ive been to hair forums where guys have been on it for way over a year and they r fine...i'm probly just an unlucky one. i hear plain propecia increases test since less dht is made so i am guessing i have more test now to turn into estrogen? with much much less dht

either way ill just wait a long long while till everything normalizes and go back to propecia where it gave me no sides

 

[krishna]

Yes propecia raises test and estrogen levels. Imagine how much more dutasteride does this.

 

[joker261]

bump...i need to know what dosages of liquid nolva i should take per day or week..anyone?

 

[krishna]

20 a day works fine for me when I get symptoms. Hell 10 even works good. I'm sure people will tell you more, but I suggest start low and see what effect it has first. You may not need much at all. I believe 20mg = 1cc liquid

 

[joker261]

20 a day works fine for me when I get symptoms. Hell 10 even works good. I'm sure people will tell you more, but I suggest start low and see what effect it has first. You may not need much at all. I believe 20mg = 1cc liquid

thx! it shipped today so it should get here soon...ill defnatly try tht