Second cycle - help please!

[mish12345]

I am just sorting out my second cycle, already have var (will do 70mg ed), and am ordering 20ml of test prop since I am doing 100mg eod for 6 weeks.

On my first cycle I didnt gain too well on 500mg sust/week, so would you suggest I need more than 100mg eod prop to make good gains? Both are test at the end of the day, but going above 100mg eod concerns me a bit as it seems a higher dosage than what is normally suggested for beginners.

I will be using proviron, is 25mg ed sufficient to help keep water down or do I really need 50mg ed? Only reason I'm saying 25mg is due to price.

Also as regards PCT, will clomid suffice or do I want nolva or both??

Apologies for all the questions, thanks guys

 

[dabuffguy]

I am just sorting out my second cycle, already have var (will do 70mg ed), and am ordering 20ml of test prop since I am doing 100mg eod for 6 weeks.

On my first cycle I didnt gain too well on 500mg sust/week, so would you suggest I need more than 100mg eod prop to make good gains? Both are test at the end of the day, but going above 100mg eod concerns me a bit as it seems a higher dosage than what is normally suggested for beginners.

I will be using proviron, is 25mg ed sufficient to help keep water down or do I really need 50mg ed? Only reason I'm saying 25mg is due to price.

Also as regards PCT, will clomid suffice or do I want nolva or both??

Apologies for all the questions, thanks guys

Use sustain alpha/test recovery stack along with your pct.

100mg prop eod should get you damn good gains. If you didn't get that great of gains off of 500mg sust, your diet was failing.

 

[splperformance]

read the stickies for PCT...what was your first cycle like...was it only sust 500mg EW and how long was it for...here's my suggestion...once you have fully recovered from your first cycle, ie. test levels are back in order, 100mg PROP ED will do the trick or even EOD is fine but 6 weeks is garbage...do a 10 week cycle and for the last 6-8 weeks, do the var at 50mg ED

 

[mish12345]

why is 6 weeks garbage? thats the only amount of time i can run it for, and plenty experienced people have told me 6 weeks is fine...?

 

[alexl2]

I wouldnt expect much from 350 mg/wk for only 6 weeks, especially since you said you didnt get much outta 500 mg/wk. I would do 100 ed for at least 8 weeks.

 

[dabuffguy]

why is 6 weeks garbage? thats the only amount of time i can run it for, and plenty experienced people have told me 6 weeks is fine...?

the dose is plenty high, and you can do it for 6 weeks, especially because it's prop only it's ideal to run longer. it will act much faster, but 8 weeks is a solid amount of time on prop.

6 weeks should do you fine. you could run an oral with it. run some tbol. cheap, no sides, good mass.

If i were you, id get enough for 8 weeks.Or run an oral with it starting 2 weeks before you inject. So that the total length of time on will be 8 weeks, the first 2 weeks just being an oral, and the last 2 just being prop. anavar or tbol are my suggestions. dbol is good too i guess.