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Second cycle help (competing)

keepnitreal

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Age - 22
Training for 5 years
Have done one cycle from Nov 2012 - feb 2013 ( test e at 400mg for 11 weeks with aromasin 12.5 EOD )

I'm going to be competing in October ( Men's physique)
this will be my first bb/physique comp but Ive done many pl meets so I know my way around training (not a training noob :) )

I will start contest prep 12 weeks out (diet dialed in 100% )

Im thinking of something like
Test e 500 mg 1-12
anavar 60-80 mg 4-12
clen lol just kidding ( you guys are gonna rip me for suggesting clen)


or staring with var and adding in masteron 100 mg EOD ?

set up 2
Test Prop 100mg EOD ? week 1-8
Masteron 100mg EOD week 1-12
EQ 400mg week 1-12
Winny 80mg week 6-12

I kinda want to run the least amount of Joooooce...any suggestion ?

apreech !
 
Age - 22
Training for 5 years
Have done one cycle from Nov 2012 - feb 2013 ( test e at 400mg for 11 weeks with aromasin 12.5 EOD )

I'm going to be competing in October ( Men's physique)
this will be my first bb/physique comp but Ive done many pl meets so I know my way around training (not a training noob :) )

I will start contest prep 12 weeks out (diet dialed in 100% )

Im thinking of something like
Test e 500 mg 1-12
anavar 60-80 mg 4-12
clen lol just kidding ( you guys are gonna rip me for suggesting clen)


or staring with var and adding in masteron 100 mg EOD ?

set up 2
Test Prop 100mg EOD ? week 1-8
Masteron 100mg EOD week 1-12
EQ 400mg week 1-12
Winny 80mg week 6-12

I kinda want to run the least amount of Joooooce...any suggestion ?

apreech !

whats your height/weight/body fat bro? I can tell you right now that eq is not worth running for 12 weeks... if your going to run eq then 16 weeks minimum... 20 weeks is ideal... if your going to do that then you might as well run primo... that is going to be the best for your goal... list your stats so i can recommend the right cycle...
 
your body fat is way too high to be running mast... you need to get it down quite a bit bro... you have quite a way to go before you consider competing... i would run a sarms triple stack with albuterol and get your body fat down... then look at running a longer cutting cycle...
 
Trust me, if you want to compete in the MPD you will need to be lean!! At 5'7" you should plan on coming in around 150-165lbs. Obviously everyone carries their mass different but you need to be in the 5-7% BF range.
 
guys like us don't do well in physiques bro. mass is nice but you will be docked a lot of points for your body fat.. the dude who won my category last year in the NPC's was skinny as a rail, but he put up a nice show and had low body fat. the dude could probably not even bench 200

have you been to any shows yet? i would go to a few of them.. don't even think about going on stage if you are over 9 or 10% body fat. 15% you got a lot of work to do and its gonna take more than a couple months of comping to get there
 
Your back is wide as fuck bro Jesus Christ! Impressive, you def need to lower bf, the masteron is a very nice aas but like Dylan said you won't see the effects of it unless a lower bf. on the flip side you will still receive the mild AI benefits from it and sense of well being , but you wouldn't be utilizing it to the fullest.
 
I'm currently running
100mg Test P eod
100mg Tren A eod started 8weeks before show.
300mg EQ Twice a week 16 weeks before show.
Anavar 60mg every day. 30mg in morning and 30mg in afternoon.
7weeks before show.
My show is in May 11 and I'm hard and tight with 6 percent body fat.
Diet has been spot on.
Hope you like this setup

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I don't think men's physique is a good idea for you. As for bodyfat, dropping 10% in 12 weeks would be a big feat. Its possible, but a longer prep or starting at a lower bodyfat is ideal.


With that said, I don't think its in your best interest to go the physique route. They are looking for very lean guys with great abs and a small waist without too much muscle mass. You have to have muscle, but you can't look like a bodybuilder or you will get marked down. Also, if you aren't a great looking guy with nice hair, great skin, and a nice jawline you have a lot of strikes against you. Being short doesn't help either. In my experience, they were looking for tall, dark, and handsome.

I competed in men's physique a couple weeks ago and the guy that won was definitely a pretty boy. He also had a mediocre physique compared to many of us, though he had the small waist and great abs. He was also the tallest guy there at 6'5".
 
bro if you are going to run a cycle to cut you are best of sticking to short esters, switch masteron for npp 100mg eod and tren ace 100mg eod until you bf is low enought for masteron,
 
hey thanks for.the input everyone... my shows in October and I havent started my contest prep yet so I guess youcan say im in my 'offseason' which kinda explains the high bf
and to add I have a contestprep coach for 12 weeks so I kinda have to compete..
as to why im chose phsique over bb is because I tore my acl year ish back and lost a lot of muscle mass and my knee is just about healing up but i've def. lost A LOT of mass from legs (gained some back now) so I thought Id do physique first then get into bb after.

as for the cycle could someone throw in a 12 week precontest cycle recc. (looking for.something really basic)

this.pic.was taken about a month ish ago I dont think im anywhere close to get into bb and i think i have somewhat of a physique... but fuck it im still gonna compete this year just to get some experience
 
I'm currently running
100mg Test P eod
100mg Tren A eod started 8weeks before show.
300mg EQ Twice a week 16 weeks before show.
Anavar 60mg every day. 30mg in morning and 30mg in afternoon.
7weeks before show.
My show is in May 11 and I'm hard and tight with 6 percent body fat.
Diet has been spot on.
Hope you like this setup

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kinda 'leaning' towards this (no pun intended lol ) minus the tren, I dont think im ready for that just yet...im assuming youre doing.test p for 8 weeks as well right?

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kinda 'leaning' towards this (no pun intended lol ) minus the tren, I dont think im ready for that just yet...im assuming youre doing.test p for 8 weeks as well right?

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Been on for 10 months now.

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this is what Ive got planned in terms of compounds, any suggestions

test e 400mg 4-12
eq 300 mg 1-16
anavar 60-80mg 8-16
 
heres a delt shot..fuarkkk
ok so what do you guys think of the proposed cycle.. will start the diet and prep 16 weeks out

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this is what Ive got planned in terms of compounds, any suggestions

test e 400mg 4-12
eq 300 mg 1-16
anavar 60-80mg 8-16

1. Why are you only running Test E for 9 weeks? You can and should run it the full 16 weeks that you're running EQ.

2. EQ dose should be higher. Most reports/recommendations I've read have said that the difference between 300 and 600 is huge. At the very least I'd go up to 450-500 but 600 seems to be the magic number for EQ.

3. Anavar should be weeks 9-16 if the goal is to run it for 8 weeks.
 
yeah def bump up doses, or switch to test prop 100mg eod, npp 100mg eod, and VAR its a better cycle for contest prep
 
opps i meant test.for 12 weeks
so something like
test e - 500mg 1-16
eq 300 2x a week 1-16
var last 7-8 weeks

just spoke to a buddy who suggested a cut stack and could hook me up....
test p 50mg
tren a 50 mg
mast 50mg
total 150mg /ml

I could run this at 100 mg each compound EOD for the last 8 weeks and make sure I get most of the fat lost natty in the first 8 weeks of prep...
suggestions ..thoughts?

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