Second Cycle, Deca,Test E, Dbol.

[TheFacelessOne15]

Hey everyone, gonna start my second cycle in May and wanted some second opinions just to make sure I haven't missed anything or if anyone has any advice. Here's my stats:

Age: 25
Height: 5'7
Weight: 195lbs
BF%: 13%
Years training: 5-6

Cycle info:

Weeks: 1-14 Test E: 350mg
Weeks: 1-12 Deca: 250mg
Weeks: 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
Weeks: 1-12 HCG: 250iu x2 per week

Adex: .50 EOD
Prami:.50 x2 per week


PCT:

Clomid: 100/75/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20


Hopefully I didn't miss anything. Let me know what you guys think!

 

[bonacris]

Pct needs work.. nolva and deca don't go well together.. do a bit more research on pct.. should only take you a few mins on this site

EDIT: vvvvv or do exactly as EZ-E says

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[EZ_E]

Additions:

Prami or caber if you're taking deca
Aromasin
A garbage can for your nolva

Forma Stanzol after last pin*
PCT should be Post Cycle/Unleashed combo 2 weeks after last pin**
Powerchews

*Mrsupps.com
**NTBM.com

~EZ

 

[TheFacelessOne15]

Been reading back and forth on peoples thoughts on nolva in PCT and it's pretty much a 50/50 battle.. Not entirely sure what to follow :/

 

[bonacris]

Been reading back and forth on peoples thoughts on nolva in PCT and it's pretty much a 50/50 battle.. Not entirely sure what to follow :/

The simple science is that they are both SERMs.. they block estrogen.. but don't kick start test production.
So your estrogen is blocked from binding but no test so you feel like shit. Deca doesn't convert to estrogen but to progesterone.. nolva and Clomid do nothing for progesterone.. in fact nolva can up regulate progesterone receptors making deca effects even worse..
Prami will take care of the progesterone and Adex should be enough to limit estrogen.. but no teat kick start..

That's why we recommend unleashed/ post cycle
DAA
Formastanzol( for estrogen rebound)
And low dosed Clomid.

We need a certain amount of estrogen to build muscle and to be generally healthy so using 2 serms will crush it and make you feel horrible..

What I said is very basic but I hope you get the general gist of it

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[Leather Neck]

Have you run deca before?

 

[noodles1010]

Hey everyone, gonna start my second cycle in May and wanted some second opinions just to make sure I haven't missed anything or if anyone has any advice. Here's my stats:

Age: 25
Height: 5'7
Weight: 195lbs
BF%: 13%
Years training: 5-6

Cycle info:

Weeks: 1-14 Test E: 350mg
Weeks: 1-12 Deca: 250mg
Weeks: 1-4 Dbol 30mg ED
Weeks: 1-12 HCG: 250iu x2 per week

Adex: .50 EOD
Prami:.50 x2 per week


PCT:

Clomid: 100/75/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20


Hopefully I didn't miss anything. Let me know what you guys think!

#1 deca is a bitch to bounce back from. Lingers In your system up to 18mos after last pin. Trust me on this one... I'm paying for it as we speak.
#2 shit can your nolva for this cycle. They touched why above.
#3 if u don't run aromasin n either caber or prami right, your set up for a) Nasty rebound b) progesterone induced Gyno.
#4 deca is extremely protein dependent. Make sure you protein intake is high.
#5 add some t boosters into pct. I.e. daa, test infusion, unleashed/post cycle ect.
#6 your going to hold a shit load of water running that cycle. Just keep that in mind. Figure on doing cardio at least 4 times a week.
#7 look at adding hmg and hcg in your two weeks going into pct.
#8 take bloods prior to your cycle. When your done run them again after pct, you will want a set to compare to.

Idk bro. Some people like deca. I fuckin hated it and I preach that to every person who attempts to touch the stuff. I hope it all works out for you tho. Take a look at npp. I feel there are better options. Looking back knowing what I know now I would have ran my last cycle much differently and not touched deca. This is all my opinion tho.

 

[EZ_E]

Great posts noodles and bonacris

 

[TheFacelessOne15]

Fuck.. Deca sounds a bit fucky to me know..REALLY not sure about it anymore, thank you all for the information, Guess i'll see what I can find