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Second cycle critique

MassMadeEasy

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First off my stats; age 27, 6'1", 240lbs, abs are out but no oliques so I would say around 13-15% BF. Finished my first cycle the first week of December and plan to start the second in March. First cycle was 600mg Deca week 1-10, 50mg Winny Depot week 2-12, Clomid post cycle. Was up to 260 but due to recent stress and no food havegone way down however strength and size still good.

For my second cycle I want to revolve the cycle around Test. I am looking to get back to 260 but maintain the current BF level. Here is what I was thinking: 600mg Test Cyp week 1-10, 100mg Test Prop ED day 1-10, 600mg EQ week 1-10, 50mg Winny Depot ED week 6-12, Liquidex throughout, clomid post, HCG and Nolvadex onhand.

What do you think about the Test Prop, better to do 100mg ED for 10 days or 50mg ED for 20 days? Or would you suggest dropping the Prop and just frontload the Cyp for the first two to three weeks at 1600mg - 1200mg?

Any suggestions?
 
I prefer your second scenario, drop the prop and front-load with Cyp. I hate prop. That ED stuff gets real old, real fast. Maybe I'm a puss, but I run out of spots that aren't sore from that shit. Some guys love it, I just have no use for it.
 
Thanks again Tap, appreciate the advice. Not sure what to expect from test, as far as pain. Injected Winny Depot last cycle and grew to love the pain.
 
Way too much gear bro. This is only your second cycle, why not try and keep it a little more moderate.

Prop @ 100 mg/ed for weeks 1-2
Test cyp @300 mg/week for 10 weeks
Winny @ 50 mg/ed weeks 8-12
EQ @ 400 mg/week for 10 weeks


Try and use a little more moderation when making cycles....there is no need for such high doses. It is not the gear that will put you up to 260....it is your diet and your training.


My 2 cents

Hope this helped.
 
Thanks Guards for the advice I think I will drop down a bit. I was just wondering what would be the dosage difference between a man that was 240 and one that was 185. Many cycles I have read advise the same dosage for people of all weights. How much does this matter if any?

-Mass-
 
It is my opinion that weight matters very little. It is not like alcohol, hormones affect everyone equally (in theory) no matter what their bodyweight.


Example:

In the off season, I am 285lbs and about 15%BF. My cycles are probably LESS than some of these 185lb guys on this board but I will put MORE mass on because of my diet/training. Gear is just an aid, not a solution to the problem of putting on quality muscle. Too many people put too much emphasize on the amount of gear they are taking and not enough emphasis on their diet and training.


Hope this helps
 
Thanks again bro your outlook and advice is very much appreciated. Its nice to hear from a big mutha that uses in moderation. I will put that knowledge to use.

-Mass-
 
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