Second Cycle -- critique wanted! :D

[NFG123]

Hey guys,

Age: 20, 5'9", 12% bf, 220 lbs (after cycle, but not sure what it will be when im done dieting, but i have to order SOON to allow for delivery and turnover)

_Think_ Ive settled on a second cycle.

Cycle history: one (this is the old cycle ive done)

Week 1-10: test 500 mg
WEek 1-6: 25 mg dbols ED
WEek 7-12 75 mg fina ED

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This CYCLE (number two) will look like:

Week 1:

1.5 g Test and 800 mg durabolin (nandrolone phenyl prop) [frontloads]

Week 2 - 10:

750 mg testoviron
400 mg durabolin

Week 11: 400 mg durabolin

One week after last durabolin shot: clomid for 4 weeks

Will be using: liquidex or nolvadex for anti e and HCG at weeks 4-5 and 9-10

Goal: MASS, gain 20 keepable lbs of muscle. Concerns: Keepability and BP (i respond WELL to test)

Thanks bros!

NFG

 

[The Almighty]

IMO if you respond so well to test and this is your 2nd cycle I dont see the need for such a high dose. Maybe frontload at 1g instead of 1.5 and then keep it at either 500 or 750. Remember, just because you did 500mg/week last cycle doesnt mean u have to increase it this time around.

Other than that, looks pretty good.

 

[Canuck4]

I agree 1.5 G is kinda high.
I suggest frontload with 1g of test instead.
Other than that the rest looks solid.

 

[argent]

I agree. Go w/ 1g for the frontload.

 

[NFG123]

thanks almighty, et al.

I wil frontload with 1 g and continue the dosing at 750 mg and the 400 mg durabolin. Does this sound good? Also, do you think the durabolin will help SOLIDIFY (make permenant) the gains? This is the main reason its added. I like fina, but have had somewhat burning urination with it and wanna stay away til i am ready again.

NFG

 

[NFG123]

bump goddamnit

 

[NFG123]

Hey, I had this other idea since hard androgens really kill my BP (rise HIGH)

Week 1 - 10: 750 mg testoviron
Week 1 - 10: 400 mg EQ
Week 7 - 12: 50 mg ED Winny

NFG

 

[bigmarco]

NFG,

Stick to the original cycle. I would do it like this.

Week 1
1gram test 400 mg durobolin

Week 2-6
750 test 400 durobolin

Week 7 - 8
Prop 100mg EOD and 100 mg durobolin EOD

You need at least two weeks to clear the enanthate.

4 days after the last injection - begin clomid.

Winstrol is a waste of money and scar tissue. Bulk up first, and cut up later. Do not try to do both in one cycle.

 

[Realgains]

NFG,

Stick to the original cycle. I would do it like this.

Week 1
1gram test 400 mg durobolin

Week 2-6
750 test 400 durobolin

Week 7 - 8
Prop 100mg EOD and 100 mg durobolin EOD

You need at least two weeks to clear the enanthate.

4 days after the last injection - begin clomid.

Winstrol is a waste of money and scar tissue. Bulk up first, and cut up later. Do not try to do both in one cycle.

Here is a bro that has it correct!

RG

 

[NFG123]

NFG,

Stick to the original cycle. I would do it like this.

Week 1
1gram test 400 mg durobolin

Week 2-6
750 test 400 durobolin

Week 7 - 8
Prop 100mg EOD and 100 mg durobolin EOD

You need at least two weeks to clear the enanthate.

4 days after the last injection - begin clomid.

Winstrol is a waste of money and scar tissue. Bulk up first, and cut up later. Do not try to do both in one cycle.

I like this. What if I make that 200 mg prop EOD so I don't jettison all the testosterone after only six weeks and kill gains. It takes enanthate a little longer to kick in cause its a longer ester. Wha if I also hold it out til week 6 (as suggested) to begin doing this. I assume people do not have A LOT of experience with durabolin so 1 week after last injection to clomid therapy (its phenyl prop) but I need support on this since not many people use it ...

So my cycle would look like ... also since I will only be using enanthate for 7 weeks, I wanna frontload the shit out of it, 1 g wont cut it. The shorter cycles really seem to rock as I stopped gaining a lot after 8 weeks.... Also gets HPTA back quick


Week 1:

1.5 g testoviron, 1 g durabolin (800 mg)

Week 2:

1 g Testoviron, 600 mg durabolin

Week 3-6:

750 mg testoviron, 400 mg durabolin

Week 7 - 8:

150-200 mg prop EOD, 100-150 mg durabolin EOD

Week 10 (one week after last injection): begin clomid

HCG week 4: 500 iu for 5 days

HCG week 8-9: 500 iu for 5 on/2 off approach

1 mg liquidex ED

Solid? NFG

I think this could net me 15 lbs of muscle ... if im lucky as a bitch, 20.

NFG

 

[NFG123]

What if I do this: drop the frontload to 1 g and run dbols for the first four weeks at 40 mg ED ... continue with the rest of the durabolin cycle as JUST posted. IF enanthate wont kick in til week 4-5 and im gonna be dropping it at week 6 (end of) I need a good start.

NFG

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

I'm loving your last plan. Looks great. I'd love to try nandro pheyl prop BTW. Seeing as it's only an 8 week cycle I think HCG during weeks 7 & 8 wouold be fine. D-bols would be good to kick it off too.

 

[manny78]

Hey, I had this other idea since hard androgens really kill my BP (rise HIGH)

Week 1 - 10: 750 mg testoviron
Week 1 - 10: 400 mg EQ
Week 7 - 12: 50 mg ED Winny

NFG

Considering your stats I would go for that one. Maybe , and I say "maybe" if you wish you could add some Fina. Also Front the test at 1000 mg week 1-2 then 500 mg should be ok. Liquidex should also be included.

 

[NFG123]

thanks manny and THE INCREDIBLE HULK, lol

Bump for more suggestions!

NFG

 

[Dr.RobertBanner]

Giving away my identity you bastard (need a mad green face)

Not Hulk status yet, my transformation is not yet complete.