Second Cycle Critique needed

[atticus]

Putting together my second cycle and would like some comments and help.

STATS
Age: 42
H: 6’ 2”
W: 200
BF:8%

Been bodybuilding seriously for four years. First cycle was:

1-12 Sust EOD
1-6 PaperBol 30mg ED
7-12 PaperStrol 50mg ED
1-12 Arimidex .5mg ED
HCG, Nolva, Clomid Post cycle

My goal for this cycle was to cut up for summer without losing any mass. Got great results...reduced BF pretty dramatically, amazing cuts, no sides, strength went through the roof.

For Cycle 2, I want to gain about 10-15 pounds of quality mass. Here's what I'm thinking:

Week 1-6 : Test prop 100 mg/ m-w-f
Week 1-6 : Tren 100mg/ m-w-f
Week 1-12 : Eq 300 mg/week
Week 1-6 : Test enan 400 mg/week
Week 7-12: Test enan 600 mg/week
Week 7-13 : Winny 50 mg/day
HCG, Nolva, Clomid Post cycle


Would there be any advantage to adding 30mg D-bol ED to help jumpstart or is that overload with the Tren?

Does the Prop/Enan loading sound right?

I know this is a lot of gear, but my first cycle sides were almost non-existent. Should I be more conservative on the amounts?

Any comments or suggestions would be much appreciated

-- Atticus

 

[ripper2]

your making the cycle a little more complicated than it needs to be.

personally i think this is a lot of gear for a 2nd cycle, but if i were running what you have layed out i'd do it something like this:

test enanthate 500mg/wk wk1-12
EQ 300mg/wk wk1-12
prop 100mg EOD wk 10-15
tren 100mg EOD wk 10-15
winni 50mg/day wk 10-15

if you want to throw in the dbol at 25-30mg/day for the first 4wks you could.

reasoning for this cycle is that you get your longer esters going from the get-go and then at wk 12 you cut them off and use the fast acting esters (prop/tren/winni) while the testEnanthat/EQ is fading out of your system. the dbol would be a nice addition to get things going out the gates, but this would be a pretty HEFTY 2nd cycle.

you may want to consider dropping the tren and just save it for a later cycle. if your diet is good you shouldn't have ANY problem gaining at least 10-15lbs (probably more) on this as a 2nd cycle.

 

[pure]

for a second time around just use the test, eq , and tren...
save the d-bol for next time around...
you will get very good gains off the fina..

atticus, what did you think about the paper products?

 

[Little Rage]

atticus-
all that gear is not necessary for 10-15lbs. ecspecially with a solid diet.

whats the reason for the winny? from the looks of it you are running a bulker, and you will not be able to take full advantage of the effects of winny. perhaps you want to prevent progesterone induced gyno?

test/tren/eq would be a killer cycle to reach your goals. run the tren in the beginning for a jump start, or at the end to add more density.

run the tren at 150mg eod if you prefer that over ed injections at 75mg. running tren m-w-f would not allow your blood levels to keeep constant during the weekend.


pure-
as for the paper products: I've been hearing great things about paperstrol and i am thinking about using it for my next cycle. Also I am currently running paperdrol and the results so far are incredible.

 

[dzulboy]

drop the enathate in the first 6 weeks and add the dbol keep the wimmie every one says its used for cutting but fuck i bulk on it so why not

 

[atticus]

Thanks all for the excellent advice. I think I will stick with the Tren, Test, Eq cycle and cut out the dbol and winny.

Pure, the paper products were outstanding, especially the strol...although I can't compare them to other products since it was my first cycle. All feedback I got from other bros prior to ordering was very positive.

-Atticus