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School shooting in Germany - many dead

MattTheSkywalker

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There was a school shooting in Germany this morning - as many as 18 are presumed dead, and perhaps the shooter(s) are still in the school.

From CNN:


Germany already has strict laws governing the right to a gun, but experts say the country is awash with illegal weapons smuggled into the country from eastern Europe and the Balkans.


Good for gun control.
 
and no gun control would have prevented this in what way?

I'm against gun control but I don't see how that would apply to this situation.
 
I think we are bypassing the obviousness that it is the media, movies, video games, and the crap that is on tv rotting the minds of today's youth - and now the evil has spread even to Germany where for centuries they have been a calm, easy going and tolerant people.
 
The Nature Boy said:
and no gun control would have prevented this in what way?

Armed teachers/security guards.

Wait, that's not allowed in this country either? Guess why - gun control. What do you think the body count at Columbine would have been if teachers and security guards were encouraged to bring guns to school - probably 2.

-Warik
 
Warik said:


Armed teachers/security guards.

Wait, that's not allowed in this country either? Guess why - gun control. What do you think the body count at Columbine would have been if teachers and security guards were encouraged to bring guns to school - probably 2.

-Warik

what are you high? this isnt' the wild west!!
 
HappyScrappy said:
and now the evil has spread even to Germany where for centuries they have been a calm, easy going and tolerant people.

Finally someone recognizes our peaceful nature :p

It´s really bad, 6 months ago there was another shooting in Freising, i lived there a year ago.
I wonder if we bypass the US in school shootings.
 
Norman Bates said:

It´s really bad, 6 months ago there was another shooting in Freising, i lived there a year ago.
I wonder if we bypass the US in school shootings.

no, we're much more efficient at killing each other than anyone else.
 
HappyScrappy said:
I think we are bypassing the obviousness that it is the media, movies, video games, and the crap that is on tv rotting the minds of today's youth - and now the evil has spread even to Germany where for centuries they have been a calm, easy going and tolerant people.


Nietzsche, Luther & Hitler come to mind.
After the kid did the school shooting i wonder if he yelled 'you filthy krauut', then starting eating polish sausage and bavarian dancing. I don't know much about german culture so i am guesstimating based on episodes of vacation 2 & the simpsons.
 
nordstrom said:



Nietzsche, Luther & Hitler come to mind.
After the kid did the school shooting i wonder if he yelled 'you filthy krauut', then starting eating polish sausage and bavarian dancing. I don't know much about german culture so i am guesstimating based on episodes of vacation 2 & the simpsons.

I just know from castle wolfenstein that you are supposed to shoot all zee germans.
 
The Nature Boy said:
what are you high? this isnt' the wild west!!

No, I'm being logical, and I'd rather it be the wild west than the fucking ghetto.

Why don't you do a little thinking? Why are schools easy targets for homocidal maniacs? They are defenseless. The students don't have guns because they are too young (this I agree with), the teachers don't have guns, the administration does not have guns, the security guards do not have guns. Not because they don't want to, but because it is completely forbidden to bring any kind of weapon (including plastic G.I. Joe guns) to a school.

How do you think Columbine would have transpired if someone was armed besides the psycho brats?

Current Scenario:

Psycho Brats: "We're going to kill you."
Innocent Students: *dead*

Anti-Gun Control Scenario:

Psycho Brats: "We're going to kill you."
Teacher, Security Guard, Assistant Principal, or anyone in the area with a gun: *dead psycho brats*

By your logic, the police shouldn't have guns either. Wtf is this? The wild west where the sheriff has to run around shooting everyone? Nah man... this is 21st century U.S.A. We are civilized. We don't need guns anywhere.

rofl... back to Earth please.

-Warik
 
"I think we are bypassing the obviousness that it is the media, movies, video games, and the crap that is on tv rotting the minds of today's youth "

Actually I doubt the media or either of those industries is to blame. I blame the way there is no more authority. things went wrong when you became supposed to call primary school teachers by their first name and they didn`t wear suits anymore.
I say bring back the draft (but just after i would be drafted :))
and RAISE them kids instead of just provide for them.
 
your "logic" is flawed. you're dealing in hypotheticals.

First, you're talking about teachers. Not police or paramilitary types. The chance of them killing innocents is very likely. And you're assuming that it's easy to shoot someone. You've obviously seen too many movies. Some people don't have that in them, so the likelyhood of having a gun taken away from them and used agains them is much greater. This does happen in the real world.

Second, teachers are mostly women. Not to be sexist, but women wouldn't fare quite as well in a Columbine situation as well as a man would. Besides, you're assuming that teachers want to carry guns, I'm sure we'd have less teachers if they were required to carry guns, especially for the pay they get.


Lastly, how many school shooting have there been in the last 10 years? Not many. And not enough to warrant teachers and principals to be weilding guns.

lmao, you go back you earth junior.
 
Warik said:


No, I'm being logical, and I'd rather it be the wild west than the fucking ghetto.

You mentioned Columbine, which is actually Littleton, CO. It is a pretty well to do area. Hardly a ghetto.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


You mentioned Columbine, which is actually Littleton, CO. It is a pretty well to do area. Hardly a ghetto.


He needs to get out more maybe.

not trying to be mean btw.
 
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MattTheSkywalker said:
You mentioned Columbine, which is actually Littleton, CO. It is a pretty well to do area. Hardly a ghetto.

You assumed the incorrect interpretation of my mentioning of a ghetto. I could say that a rice burner reminds me of a racecar. You could call me stupid for saying: "no! racecars are fast! riceburners are not!" when the comparison I was making was in regard to the noise.

A ghetto is a place in which you can be shot with no defense for doing nothing but minding your own business. Columbine seems like a reasonable example.

-Warik
 
Warik said:


You assumed the incorrect interpretation of my mentioning of a ghetto. I could say that a rice burner reminds me of a racecar. You could call me stupid for saying: "no! racecars are fast! riceburners are not!" when the comparison I was making was in regard to the noise.

A ghetto is a place in which you can be shot with no defense for doing nothing but minding your own business. Columbine seems like a reasonable example.

-Warik

nice spin. :rolleyes:
 
Warik said:


You assumed the incorrect interpretation of my mentioning of a ghetto. I could say that a rice burner reminds me of a racecar. You could call me stupid for saying: "no! racecars are fast! riceburners are not!" when the comparison I was making was in regard to the noise.

A ghetto is a place in which you can be shot with no defense for doing nothing but minding your own business. Columbine seems like a reasonable example.

-Warik

Sorry. I was using the traditionally accepted defintion, as opposed to "Warik - ese".

A ghetto is not what you described, no matter how badly you want it to be.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
A ghetto is not what you described, no matter how badly you want it to be.

*yawn*... ok. Go walk around in Overtown at 2 in the morning and tell me the same if you come back. Be sure to wear your nice watch.

-Warik
 
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