saw a fat powerlifter........

[SouthernLord]

If you look at the elite PLers like Ed Coan or Kirk Karwoski you will see that they are pretty lean guys. Even the bench specialist (sorry hes not a PLer, her's a specialist. PLers do 3 lifts) Scott Mendelson is sub 15% bf. To add another group, lets add the competing strongmen. They too are pretty lean.

All that said, there are a lot of overweight PLers. I think because the workouts contain very little sustained cardio, but at the same time we need to eat everything that isn't nailed down to keep our mass. This obviously makes it very easy to start carrying a lot of fat.

B-

Yeah I had a good bro who lived on Dr Pepper and Taco bell who totaled ~2300 at 220. His total might actually still be in the top 20. He would run Tren E six months at a time though and he stayed in the 10-12% bf range. Good genetics and drugs do help.

 

[timtim]

i could see staying leaner as an advantage. dude today moved good weight but looked like a heart attack walking.

 

[joe d]

i wouldnt call it a lazy diet. i would say they are focused on their only goal to lift more weight.
cardio and cutting will only get in the way of that so why do it. i dont think many of them worry about fat at all. even the guys that are lean i would guess its just because of their body types. i would also bet that most of the big fat guys diets are strict to their goals and hard to atain but that they are endomorphs which puts them in the public lard ass catagory any way.

i am 5'5'' 261 lbs at 21% bf, i eat 7500 cals per day. over 750g protein ed. a lot would say im a lazy dieter but in reality i fucking hate eating 10 meals per day sleaping at 2 different times so i can get a couple meals in between sleap but i bet my diet is less lazy that 80% of the guys who stay at 10% bf. its all about the goals.

 

[NBAfan#21]

I have a question: is it possible to do a strenght training program like power lifters (Madcow 5x5 is an example) and get bigger muscles but still defined? Or does powerlifting always results in a big muscle mass but without any definition?

Here's the cliche picture that comes in my mind when i think of powerlifting training: http://bearmythology.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/dominic-filiou-09.jpg

And i wondered if its possible to look more like this following the same kind of training:
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/magazine/09/29/owens0724/t1_owens.jpg

 

[azul]

I have a question: is it possible to do a strenght training program like power lifters (Madcow 5x5 is an example) and get bigger muscles but still defined? Or does powerlifting always results in a big muscle mass but without any definition?

Here's the cliche picture that comes in my mind when i think of powerlifting training: http://bearmythology.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/dominic-filiou-09.jpg

And i wondered if its possible to look more like this following the same kind of training:
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/magazine/09/29/owens0724/t1_owens.jpg

Your muscles can get bigger, smaller, or stay the same size. You cannot grow different types of muscles by training differently.

Those two people you posted... they may very well have similar body types. The only difference is that the powerlifter has 80 more pounds of fat on him and the athlete has very little because he's far more active.

 

[bblazer]

All this talk actually reminded me of one of Rippetoe's more famous quotes. He is a little harsh, and please understand that I don't post them to offend anyone - they just, in their own way, seem germain.

"The bulk/cut approach holds that you can either add muscle or lose bodyfat, and that all training should be concerned with one or the other. This assumes that aesthetics is the criterion by which progress is measured, that pictures therefore tell the story, and that picture magazines can be the arbiters of success. This type of thinking completely ignores the performance aspects of training, and performance is much more easily and rapidly influenced. Rapid, quantifiable progress keeps motivation high, much higher than waiting for a six-pack that may or may not show up."

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[1500]

Most of the strong men comp guys are fucking huge ripped beats nowadays. i remember when a majority were fat asses.

 

[NBAfan#21]

Your muscles can get bigger, smaller, or stay the same size. You cannot grow different types of muscles by training differently.

Those two people you posted... they may very well have similar body types. The only difference is that the powerlifter has 80 more pounds of fat on him and the athlete has very little because he's far more active.

What i meant to ask is if powerlifting can still give you "ripped" muscles or if you have to do a bodybuilding workout for that? I have heard that doing low reps and heavy weight like a power lifter gives you muscle mass but no definition and that you need to do between 10-12 reps to be more ripped. Is that a myth? Can a powerlifter still be ripped if he maitains his body fat around 10% or does he need to do on isolation exercises like a bodybuilder?

 

[NBAfan#21]

All this talk actually reminded me of one of Rippetoe's more famous quotes. He is a little harsh, and please understand that I don't post them to offend anyone - they just, in their own way, seem germain.

"The bulk/cut approach holds that you can either add muscle or lose bodyfat, and that all training should be concerned with one or the other. This assumes that aesthetics is the criterion by which progress is measured, that pictures therefore tell the story, and that picture magazines can be the arbiters of success. This type of thinking completely ignores the performance aspects of training, and performance is much more easily and rapidly influenced. Rapid, quantifiable progress keeps motivation high, much higher than waiting for a six-pack that may or may not show up."

B-

I love that quote Blazer. It's a good inspiration and argument for guyz like me who can't chose between bodybuilding and powerlifting training.

 

[Jocques Straap]

calorie deficit = weak as fuck. Sorta goes against the goals of a power lifter.

And to answer nbafans question, yes you can still be ripped if you train like a powerlifter, and keep your body fat low. But if your goal is to look ripped, and you don't care about strength or function then training like a bodybuilder will get you there a little faster.