safe dosage for HGH newbie for healing purposes

[uberreem]

i have crohns and am looking for a way to help me with my symptoms. I am planning on replicating the clinical trial that they did but i have a question on the dosage.
Growth of an ibd controversy: Growth hormone and controversy's disease - Binion - 2006 - Inflammatory Bowel Diseases - Wiley Online Library
the amount they used was the following:
"a loading dose of 5 mg/day (subcutaneous injection) of growth
hormone (somatropin) for 7 days, followed by 1.5 mg/day
maintenance regimen"
if 1mg=3iu.....that would mean you had to take 15iu for the loading and 4.5 iu for the maintenance.... isnt that a very very high amount for a beginner? all the reading ive done says to only take 2 to 3 iu for repairing
thanks

 

[uberreem]

bump?

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

I don't suggest you self medicate, whether you have crohns or not. You need to see a doctor who specializes in your disease and workout the best way (if it's actually needed) to use human growth hormone.

 

[Zyglamail]

People really got to get off this HGH/AAS for healing kick. The doses you describe is pretty large and it would be quite costly.

I just about guarantee you have intestinal pathogens. many of which modern medicine dont even care about or claim to be harmless yet new data is proving quite the opposite. You need to start looking into some form of bowel cleanse like humaworn, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper than GH and a lot more effective. GH may help in the healing of the bowel but if you dont get rid of whats causing it, its going to offer temp releife at best.

 

[uberreem]

i appreciate the concern, and this isnt my first line of treatment, its basically the last. for years i have explored alternative therapy and tried everything under the sun (i can pm you if you really want to know what) to now avail, I only recently threw in the towel and started taking pharma products which i know only mask the symptoms.

 

[Zyglamail]

i appreciate the concern, and this isnt my first line of treatment, its basically the last. for years i have explored alternative therapy and tried everything under the sun (i can pm you if you really want to know what) to now avail, I only recently threw in the towel and started taking pharma products which i know only mask the symptoms.

Im not even necessarily talking about alternative therapy, im talking about eliminating pathogens, most of which modern science ignores. There are plenty of antifungals/antibiotics etc that can be used but they are often much harsher than alternative therapies and often not as effective although if they do work they often work faster.

Have you been tested for any intestinal pathogens and if so, through high end labs like genova/doctors data or just through your run of the mill clinic?

Medicine has so many labels for shit and they simply throw them at things they dont want to spend the time trying to solve.

Each to their own I guess. GH isnt going to be a a permanent fix if it helps at all and its likely not going to be something your going to be able to maintain indefinately.

 

[gymrat827]

if your set on using GH start at 1IU a day and work your way up every other week. dont go beyond 3.5iu a day.

 

[uberreem]

if your set on using GH start at 1IU a day and work your way up every other week. dont go beyond 3.5iu a day.

so thats the repairing dosage?

 

[Zyglamail]

so thats the repairing dosage?

Dude, there is no such thing as a repairing dose. GH is known to promote the growth of various cells so with that said ALL doses have the potential to help in healing.

The question is what dose is needed to overcome the rate of cell damage one is undergoing and thats anyones guess. The next question is what will the side effects be or affects on the rest of the body when the dose to deal with your particular issue is found.

Knock yourself out here but your looking for answers that dont exist, anything you hear is going to be speculation at best and and the results are only going to persist while you take the GH.

You should be focusing on reducing systemic inflammation which is causing the damage in the first place because I would bet money that a dose that would help your crohns to any significant degree is a dose that you cant stay on long term without suffering major side effects.

 

[uberreem]

Dude, there is no such thing as a repairing dose. GH is known to promote the growth of various cells so with that said ALL doses have the potential to help in healing.

The question is what dose is needed to overcome the rate of cell damage one is undergoing and thats anyones guess. The next question is what will the side effects be or affects on the rest of the body when the dose to deal with your particular issue is found.

Knock yourself out here but your looking for answers that dont exist, anything you hear is going to be speculation at best and and the results are only going to persist while you take the GH.

You should be focusing on reducing systemic inflammation which is causing the damage in the first place because I would bet money that a dose that would help your crohns to any significant degree is a dose that you cant stay on long term without suffering major side effects.

yes i know, this is just one of the protocols that i am doing as there isnt much for repair out there. i am using other products for inflammation, gut flora, and pathogen removal... thanks for your help

 

[Zyglamail]

yes i know, this is just one of the protocols that i am doing as there isnt much for repair out there. i am using other products for inflammation, gut flora, and pathogen removal... thanks for your help

I understand your just looking for answers, sorry if I came across like an ass, but there just isnt going to be an answer worth a shit that anyone can give you. Everyones rate of damage is different and everyones ability to put the GH to use is different so its impossible for anyone to realy predict whats going to work for you.

About the best you can do is start at like 1 unit a day, run it for a couple weeks, increase dosage run a couple weeks and continue until you either start getting sides or start to feel it working on your intestinal tract and hope you notice benefits before you notice side.

 

[uberreem]

I understand your just looking for answers, sorry if I came across like an ass, but there just isnt going to be an answer worth a shit that anyone can give you. Everyones rate of damage is different and everyones ability to put the GH to use is different so its impossible for anyone to realy predict whats going to work for you.

About the best you can do is start at like 1 unit a day, run it for a couple weeks, increase dosage run a couple weeks and continue until you either start getting sides or start to feel it working on your intestinal tract and hope you notice benefits before you notice side.

ok thank you, this was the kind of guideline i was seeking vs the clinical study.

ya you were a little harsh and i did have to bite my tongue, lol... so thank you for acknowledging that......ive read/tried everything re IBD and probably as educated on the topic as you are on AAS/HGH.... but i do appreciate you pointing out the connection between pathogens and disease, as its always blamed on a "haywired" immune system, which isnt exactly true. I m glad you realize that im not a 17y/r asking how to do a HGH/AAS cycle lol.........im really just a sick guy trying to get better

 

[FunGuns]

Hey man, I'm not chiming in on the GH but just an opinion on helping your crohns. I was diagnosed with colitis last year and mostly all my symptoms have been eliminated through diet. Try eating organic food and stay away from GMO's. A lot of people are attributing these intestinal illnesses with the shitty food we are being fed these days. I have completely re-tooled my diet and have been off any form of medication for almost 7 months.

 

[uberreem]

Hey man, I'm not chiming in on the GH but just an opinion on helping your crohns. I was diagnosed with colitis last year and mostly all my symptoms have been eliminated through diet. Try eating organic food and stay away from GMO's. A lot of people are attributing these intestinal illnesses with the shitty food we are being fed these days. I have completely re-tooled my diet and have been off any form of medication for almost 7 months.

thanks bro.......yes ive been on the SCD diet for about 3 years, it helps, but nowhere near how its helped others, initially it put me in remission for about 6 months but then bang, it stopped working.

 

[ALIN]

i have crohns and am looking for a way to help me with my symptoms. I am planning on replicating the clinical trial that they did but i have a question on the dosage.
Growth of an ibd controversy: Growth hormone and controversy's disease - Binion - 2006 - Inflammatory Bowel Diseases - Wiley Online Library
the amount they used was the following:
"a loading dose of 5 mg/day (subcutaneous injection) of growth
hormone (somatropin) for 7 days, followed by 1.5 mg/day
maintenance regimen"
if 1mg=3iu.....that would mean you had to take 15iu for the loading and 4.5 iu for the maintenance.... isnt that a very very high amount for a beginner? all the reading ive done says to only take 2 to 3 iu for repairing
thanks

You probably would be best low dose. Do you have your diet figured out?? Foods you can eat,,,foods you have to avoid?