sachets

[hyp1]

This is my first cyle so I have nothing to compare it to. Thats why I was thinking I would try another supplier, so I really would have something to compare. I really dont know what to expect from this cycle.It's just with all the counterfits and scammers, unless I actually send the stuff to get tested at srcs, its kinda a guess as to what to expect from a cylcle. I also need to mention I have absolutley no side effects, no bloat, no acne, no hair loss or gynecomastia so it just makes me wonder what I actually am getting. I am not trying to flame any supplier, I'm just new to anabolic androgenic steroids so I was going to try another one for some sort of reference.

The diet is right, I am taking some time off from work this year so all I do is sleep, eat, train, and liftweights.I keep everything I eat logged into an excell spreadsheet so I know exactly where I stand everyday.

just as I thought bro,I wasn't trying to insult you at all just being direct.you don't even have the slightest idea as to what to expect and you're frustrated.whats ironic is not everyone experiences estrogen side effects,I'm telling you this because I've ran quite a few cycles over the years and I've only experienced bloating on doses of dianabol.everything else that never happened at all.i'm not prone to gyno,water retention,hair loss or anger(well when I do trenbolone anger is another fucking story but I keep it in check,lol)
always keep shit on hand like nolvadex and letro incase you experience side effects though,I can't state how important that is.

if you ordered from the 20mls satchets place your gear is legit,trust me on that.I've been using it primarily for quite some time and love the strength of it.has your appetite increased substantially?thats one of the first signs that I experience(that and strength increase) and usually occurs about the 4th or 5th week.have some patience bro,continue to train seriously heavy with great form,get a shitload of rest,keep eating like crazy.....increase your protein intake and your carbs to an extent for optimal gains.

best of luck to you bro

 

[magico]

No you are doing well bro. The 20ml sachets are pharm grade. 5 solid pounds (muscle only) is really all guys get from an entire cycle....we just like to think otherwise. Easy on those carbs guy. 500g per day?!

I need all the carbs I can get because I'm a training in muay thai kickboxing and mma so I need the energy to keep up with the younger fighters. I'm 34 and competing against teens and twentysomethings. I spend four hours a day training, 5 days a week. 2hours lifting weights and 2 hours in mma/kickboxing.

 

[hyp1]

I need all the carbs I can get because I'm a training in muay thai kickboxing and mma so I need the energy to keep up with the younger fighters. I'm 34 and competing against teens and twentysomethings. I spend four hours a day training, 5 days a week. 2hours lifting weights and 2 hours in mma/kickboxing.

LOL HENCE YOUR LACK OF FUCKING WEIGHT GAIN BRO
you're burning calories and carbs you don't fucking have

 

[airsmith2k]

i laugh hysterically when people think that juice will make them look like a pro bodybuilder lol....it takes years and years of hard training, diet and tons of chemicals to look like a pro lol ...after all those long years of die hard training and juicing u most likely still wont look like a pro because you dont have the genetics!

 

[magico]

so your pissed about 5 solid pounds? Hell it takes 2-4 weeks before you get the full effeect of what your on? 5 lbs of solid muscle isnt bad imo.

not pissed at all, just have nothing to reference this cycle to. All I really know is I need another 15lbs by January to get into the next weight class.

 

[lostinfitness]

keep eating, lifting, and workin as hard as possible. It will come.

LosT!!

 

[jammastajai]

e 20mls satchets to be full strength and with proper training,eating and rest you can get as good effects and gains as you could off of any legitimate gear.

The 20ml satchets are legitimate gear arent they? I was thinking about ordering from them but i have heard a lot of you say you just got strength increases. I could give a hell about strength its all about size for me ;-) Of course size comes with strength. But what im asking is, if i order test e in the 20ml sachets, is it the same test E i can get from a different source who ships in vials?

 

[hyp1]

The 20ml satchets are legitimate gear arent they? I was thinking about ordering from them but i have heard a lot of you say you just got strength increases. I could give a hell about strength its all about size for me ;-) Of course size comes with strength. But what im asking is, if i order testosterone enanthate in the 20ml sachets, is it the same testosterone enanthate i can get from a different source who ships in vials?

definitely legitimate bro,I've been using their gear for months now and am happy with the results which were strength,appetite increases and muscular weight gains.

their gear is exactly what it is stated as being,testosterone is testosterone whether it comes in a presealed vial or a satchet.stop obsessing about the way shit is packaged........

what I do recommend is ordering some presealed vials though to transfer your gear into after it arrives...but that's at your discretion........I just don't like the idea of my gear setting around in pins for months on end.

 

[magico]

just as I thought bro,I wasn't trying to insult you at all just being direct.you don't even have the slightest idea as to what to expect and you're frustrated.whats ironic is not everyone experiences estrogen side effects,I'm telling you this because I've ran quite a few cycles over the years and I've only experienced bloating on doses of dianabol.everything else that never happened at all.i'm not prone to gynecomastia,water retention,hair loss or anger(well when I do trenbolone anger is another fucking story but I keep it in check,lol)
always keep shit on hand like nolvadex and Femera - letrozole - incase you experience side effects though,I can't state how important that is.

if you ordered from the 20mls satchets place your gear is legit,trust me on that.I've been using it primarily for quite some time and love the strength of it.has your appetite increased substantially?thats one of the first signs that I experience(that and strength increase) and usually occurs about the 4th or 5th week.have some patience bro,continue to train seriously heavy with great form,get a shitload of rest,keep eating like crazy.....increase your protein intake and your carbs to an extent for optimal gains.

best of luck to you bro

Thanks for the good wishes. I'm not really frustrated I was just hoping for more "kick." I'm only reaching the halway point of a 10 week cycle so if I can gain and keep 10lbs I'd be really happy.
I am using the t bol instead of d-bol because, as I understand it, it is less prone to cause water retention and hair loss. I also am using sustanon instead of test e because I understand it also causes less water retention.I don't have anger issues either, but I feel thats because I'm a naturally pretty laid back person. I have AG nolvedex for pct. Do u think I should add hcg as well? I want to keep as much of the gains as possible.

 

[holy ghost]

best of luck n000bs

listen to hyp hes legit