S-4 log

[TonyP9]

I just started back into the gym a month ago after 4 years off. I have been back for 5 weeks now and I decided to get some supplements to kick start it off. Right now I am going to mass for 6 months total and then cut for 2 months right before school starts up. I want to try other supplements too, but can't find any at the moment. I am 22, 5'8, 248, 23% bf(horrible). I gain muscle mass very quickly and lose weight decently fast without supplements. Any suggestions on what to take for massing and where to get them?

S-4, Day 4:
So far haven't felt much of what everyone else had said their side effects were. Instead of aggression, I haven't actually been in a lot better mood. Although I am not able to sleep very well and it is a little bit harder for me to get out of bed in the mornings.

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[TonyP9]

I will upload pics of my fat Ass tmrw to show my beginning looks. Lol. Also, any suggestions on workouts to lose my moobs faster? Lol

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[RickRock13]

I will follow...

Watch the vision sides and good luck

 

[TonyP9]

Day 5:
My sight seems to be doing fine so far. I actually missed the gym Friday through Sunday due to work so it was my first day back and I wanted to check my weight, 244. Not sure if it was from S-4 or not, I will check further progress every week. I am only doing 50 mg a day. I might up it on day 8 to 100mg. The shit tastes disgusting.

So today was leg, chest and triceps day. I cannot check max due to no spotter, but the normal heavier weight I was doing for massing I increased by 20+ lbs and still did the same amount of reps. The intensity of the work out was greater than when I wasn't on it. The stamina I had was greater too.

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[muscleaddiction]

Vision sides didn't hit me until week 3-4, then tolerated them for a couple weeks until one night I got called into work and the drive scared the shit out of me...then went to 5/2...and was only running 50mg ED in split dose 25/25. Good luck, but wouldn't jump from 50 to 100 in a week, vision sides would hit you hard then I would believe.

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[TonyP9]

I am thinking about getting the gw and mk to do a triple stack sarms. Not sure how long they are good to stay on for before stopping for a month and restarting... I am ordering the gw right now... It took 3 days to get here last time so by day 8 I will have it in. I want to get some other mass building supplements, but not too sure what the best ones are, since I can't find a juicer in the gym I go to..... It won't let me post pics for some reason. I was going to show what I looked like at 250 pretty much when I started back in the gym 5 weeks ago

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[kkklick]

Bro dylan has a thread about S-4 dosing and he says to up it very very slowly, from 50 to 60, but go at least a week or 2 on 50 to see if you get vision sides. @100 you most certainly will get pretty bad ones (unless your one of the lucky people who dont get it that bad)

And if you think S-4 tastes bad, wait until you taste ostarine... Probably one of the worst things I've ever tasted especially since it goes down warm through your esophogus. Drinking pre workout or bcaa's or eating fruit actually makes it worse for me so I just man up drink it and deal with it

 

[freakshow85]

I think S-4 tastes worse than Ostarine, but to each their own. Neither taste good, I think we can all agree... although, it has become an acquired taste and doesn't bother me like the first few days I ever tried it.

 

[TonyP9]

Good, I wish osta would come back in stock. So I could but it soon. I will get it from some where else I guess. I will probably do s-4 by itself for a month and then get osta, s-4, and gw. Try that stacked for a month or more.

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[psizzle_8]

My vision sides started the day after I upped to the 80s and 90s.

That didn't bother me...what bothered me was the intense pain behind my eyes which led to migraines when I was in the 90s. Lowered the dose, went away rather quickly. And after a day or two of being off completely my vision returned to normal.

 

[freakshow85]

Good, I wish osta would come back in stock. So I could but it soon. I will get it from some where else I guess. I will probably do s-4 by itself for a month and then get osta, s-4, and gw. Try that stacked for a month or more.

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I know it came back in stock as of last week. I had some ordered, it was on back order, but it was shipped out last week and I got it yesterday. Osta and S-4. This was from unique.

 

[kkklick]

I think S-4 tastes worse than Ostarine, but to each their own. Neither taste good, I think we can all agree... although, it has become an acquired taste and doesn't bother me like the first few days I ever tried it.

agreed, just took my morning doses day 3 now and it didn't taste that bad, I think its worse if you try to cover it by eating something else right after. Tip to anyone, dont eat strawberries after downing sarms, your tastebuds will thank you

 

[TonyP9]

I drink mine with oj, I drop it in... Stir... And slam it down and the taste doesn't really effect me now. I just took my day 6, 50 mg. Alright then I am going to get on now and order some. Has anyone had problems with sleeping on it? Since I've been taking it I will lay down in bed, but won't fall asleep for like 3 hours after it.

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[kkklick]

I take my s4 dose at 10am and 4pm, I sleep at 11pm so I'm not sure, the half life is about 6 hours so its out of my system by bed time. I take GW an hour before bed and it hasn't affected my sleep

 

[TonyP9]

See I take my dose of 50 mg around 1 pm. Would it be better to split it to 25/25? I am a clerk at a gas station so my shifts I pull are either 2-11 or 12, or 11p- 8am. I am not sure if its the s-4 or work screwing my shit up. I usually hit the gym around 6-8:30 or 9:30 pm.

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[freakshow85]

Wish I could help, but I've always had problems going to sleep. My mind constantly runs wide open. Every memory of my life constantly runs through my head, lol. The only peace I can get to go to sleep is closing my eyes, laying still, and forcing myself to only count backwards from 100 in my head. It works most of the times, but sometimes I'm too stubborn and like to let my mind run wide open. I usually lay in bed for an hour every night before I doze off. Melatonin doesn't help me. I've been that way since my earliest memories, I hated to sleep because I always felt like I was missing something.

 

[TonyP9]

My mind does the same stuff.. hmm... Oh well...

Day 6:
Another 50 mg day. My workout was great. I don't know if its muscle memory or with the help of s-4 but on 3 of the work outs I did tonight I jumped 40 lbs+ and more reps since last week. My endurance with cardio was top notch, 40 minutes seemed like nothing. I broke a sweat, but felt like I could have home for a couple hours. I can tell a huge difference in the hardness of my muscles. No aggression that I can tell unless I get it all out in my workout. Today was back and biceps. Still no visions which is fantastic. Can't wait for tomorrow! The taste is actually gone to me now which is great too.

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[rutdipper]

Never taken s-4 before...what's up with the vision sides, does it make you blurry or something?

Also how is s-4 on endurance, Can it give a decent boost?

 

[TonyP9]

S-4 can pretty much from what I have read kind of cause night blindness to a really bad extent. Although people are saying its usually in the later stages (3-4 weeks) but everyone is different with side effects. The endurance boost I have so far( about to take day 7- 50 mg) is a lot. I ran for 40 minutes and it felt like nothing.

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[TonyP9]

Day 7:
Endurance was great another 40 minute cardio session felt like nothing. Today was shoulders and abs. All I can say is I killed it. My work outs seem more intense. Hardness is getting better and vascularity, can't tell much yet. I will weigh myself again on Monday(Day 12).

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[kkklick]

Sounds like S4 started really kicking in for you day 6, I was a bonehead and took 75 mg instead of 50. Getting a bit of pain behind the eyes, going back to 50 tomorrow so hopefully it goes away. Just letting you know in case you were thinking of upping the dose.

edit: forgot to add that i took 75 by accident, filled the syringe to 1ml instead of .5, wasnt thinking. wont make that same mistakew again thats for sure

 

[freakshow85]

I'd say that was a mouthful. When I run 75mg, I split it 3 times a day. I had zero eye pain. I did have light adjustment issues (going from bright to dark), and maybe a yellow tint to white walls. Nothing that really bothered me except for walking into a gas station and not being able to see people's faces (too dark looking)... then I got to wondering if they thought I was staring at them haha.

 

[kkklick]

lol, yea I won't be taking 50mg at once again thats for sure, I'm sticking it out at 50 all cycle, I don't even have enough supply to run it any higher.

After how long did you notice significant results FS85? After 4-5 weeks would you say you saw very noticeable results?

 

[TonyP9]

Yeah, yesterday, I couldn't make it to the gym for my leg and cardio day so I am doing chest, legs, and tris today. I decided is stick with the 50 mg for this bottle and see how everything goes. I am going to be running gw and osta after I finish my S-4. Maybe find some other stuff to throw in the mix for that cycle. Come December I am going to cut for 2 months(Dec and Jan)

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[TonyP9]

I wasn't able to log for a couple days. So far I am seeing the same results as I did before.

(Yesterday) Day 12:
Back and biceps, went up in more weight on all exercises I did except for biceps. Still have crazy high endurance. I weighed myself and I was at 246 which is probably from I still need to get my diet right, had a lot of carbs meals over the weekend with family stuff. Heading to the gym now for shoulders and abs. Will post later. Any suggestions on "love handle" focused work outs to start making them smaller? I realized my body stores more fat on the right side of my body which is very annoying to me.

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[CoBra666]

You can't choose a specific area to lose weight. A proper diet calculated exactly with bmr and the Benedict formula will help with proper macro breakdown. I have nerve damage behind my right eye and get suicide headaches. S-4 actually helped my eyes with the pain. Still got some night vision issues!

 

[TonyP9]

Gah, because of work I missed 5 days in the gym. I am so glad I get to be back in tomorrow. My schedule will be good to go. I am going to start a topic too to find out what the best stuff would be for a mass cycle. I will start logging on s-4 again tomorrow.

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[Menoitios777]

Damn.. I'd be trying to take full advantage of being on the sarms..I go crazy if I don't lift a single day ha. It is what it is but good luck bro & keep the updates coming

 

[TonyP9]

I haven't been able to make it to the gym for 8 days now because of some issues. So Monday I will be back in the full swing of things which will be nice.

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