Running Clomid and nova durring cycle: it's something you might try

[The Greatest]

heres why.


Clomid is a weak anti-estrogen but more important it stimulates the FSH and LH to produce more test and sperm. This is how it helps our body recovery. See on cycle you body senses to much Lutenizing hormones and neg. feedback occurs, the hypothalamus is then signaled to stop producing GnRH.

Thus your body shuts down and FSH stops producing sperm as well. Useing clomid and nova on cycle may help to reduce the neg feedback and keep your levels at a more normal leve.

 

[JKurz1]

Ohhh...many are going to disagree with clomid during cycle..................

 

[The Greatest]

Ohhh...many are going to disagree with clomid during cycle..................

I know they will but many top level bb imploy this method.

 

[tboy72]

ill run nolva through....im very prone to gyno. a-dex is much better though. i like it i dont hold much or any water on it.

 

[Dial_tone]

How would you determine if it works? Exogenous test looks like endogenous, doesn't it?

 

[pharmguy]

heres why.


Clomid is a weak anti-estrogen but more important it stimulates the FSH and LH to produce more test and sperm. This is how it helps our body recovery. See on cycle you body senses to much Lutenizing hormones and neg. feedback occurs, the hypothalamus is then signaled to stop producing GnRH.

Thus your body shuts down and FSH stops producing sperm as well. Useing clomid and nova on cycle may help to reduce the neg feedback and keep your levels at a more normal leve.

clomid is not strong enough to overcome the negative feedback mechanisms of exogenous androgens. That is why it is only effective post cycle and only long enough after post-cycle when drug plasma levels are low enough. If you want to produce test during cycle the only effective way is HCG and too much of that can desensitize you. That of course also sends negative feedback to the hypothalamus

 

[The Terminator]

clomid is not strong enough to overcome the negative feedback mechanisms of exogenous androgens. That is why it is only effective post cycle and only long enough after post-cycle when drug plasma levels are low enough.

Yep , clomid during cycles is virtually useless (as far as trying to stimulate endogenous test production is concerned)

 

[VictorBR]

clomid during cycles is non sense .

Victor

 

[b1ewsw32]

clomid is not strong enough to overcome the negative feedback mechanisms of exogenous androgens. That is why it is only effective post cycle and only long enough after post-cycle when drug plasma levels are low enough. If you want to produce test during cycle the only effective way is HCG and too much of that can desensitize you. That of course also sends negative feedback to the hypothalamus

Exactly...You took the words right out of my cranium. lol.

Good to see you back posting.Where you been bro? Or maybe I missed some of your posts due to my hiatus ie.mia on and off. Miss Ya.

B32

 

[nydj66]

heres why.


Clomid is a weak anti-estrogen but more important it stimulates the FSH and LH to produce more test and sperm. This is how it helps our body recovery. See on cycle you body senses to much Lutenizing hormones and neg. feedback occurs, the hypothalamus is then signaled to stop producing GnRH.

Thus your body shuts down and FSH stops producing sperm as well. Useing clomid and nova on cycle may help to reduce the neg feedback and keep your levels at a more normal leve.

Clomid stimulates FSH and LH production through it's anti-estrogen properties. High levels of testosterone, estrogen, and/or progesterone will all inhibit the HPTA through the negative feedback loop.

Clomid can block the estrogen receptors but will do nothing to curb progesterone or testosterone (or derivatives of testosterone like AAS) so it will not significantly interrupt the negative feedback loop while you're on cycle. Post cycle, Clomid works because estrogen is the dominant hormone.

However, you can use Clomid as an anti-estrogen while on cycle to prevent gyno and bloat just like you can with Nolvadex.

 

[DIVISION]

Yep , clomid during cycles is virtually useless (as far as trying to stimulate endogenous test production is concerned)

I agree, Termie

However, as nydj66 suggested it may come in handy as an anti-e during cycle.




DIV

 

[pharmguy]

Exactly...You took the words right out of my cranium. lol.

Good to see you back posting.Where you been bro? Or maybe I missed some of your posts due to my hiatus ie.mia on and off. Miss Ya.

B32

thanks bro,
Didn't know i was missed! LOL

Too busy w school to spend much time on the boards these days, I lurk here and there!

 

[maxpain]

heres why.


Clomid is a weak anti-estrogen but more important it stimulates the FSH and LH to produce more test and sperm. This is how it helps our body recovery. See on cycle you body senses to much Lutenizing hormones and neg. feedback occurs, the hypothalamus is then signaled to stop producing GnRH.

Thus your body shuts down and FSH stops producing sperm as well. Useing clomid and nova on cycle may help to reduce the neg feedback and keep your levels at a more normal leve.

And this guy said in another thread he had YEARS of experience!

 

[The Greatest]

And this guy said in another thread he had YEARS of experience!

I have actually been using this method taught to me on a pro board for a month now while still on cycle and well I have made great gains. So the jokes on you hoss. BTW care to toss up your picture stud.

 

[maxpain]

I have actually been using this method taught to me on a pro board for a month now while still on cycle and well I have made great gains. So the jokes on you hoss.

 

[BionicBC]

I know they will but many top level bb imploy this method.

Many (not all, dont get me wrong) top level bb's dont know a lot about what they take either and go by the "more is better" theory. Yea, gains will be made, but sometimes theres more than one way to get from
point A to Point B....
Bionic

 

[The Greatest]

Many (not all, dont get me wrong) top level bb's dont know a lot about what they take either and go by the "more is better" theory. Yea, gains will be made, but sometimes theres more than one way to get from
point A to Point B....
Bionic

True this is not the new law, just saying in theory there is a scientic basis behind this method.

 

[ATLmuscles]

clomid is not strong enough to overcome the negative feedback mechanisms of exogenous androgens. That is why it is only effective post cycle and only long enough after post-cycle when drug plasma levels are low enough. If you want to produce test during cycle the only effective way is HCG and too much of that can desensitize you. That of course also sends negative feedback to the hypothalamus

I agree with pharmguy. If you are on a long cycle, then occasional use of HCG will help to restimulate your balls so they "remeber" what to do when you come off, followed by the usu. post-cycle regimen.

 

[liquidmuscle]

i remember when i first was getting educated on our beloved AAS it was to be introduced at 50mgs ed from wk 4 all the way to pct, now yrs later no one does it,it probably didnt do much however i do beleive we are heading in the right direction as far as reg pct therapy goes

 

[slat1]

Clomid During A Cycle
When we use anabolic steroids, the level of androgens in the body rises causing the androgen receptors to become more highly activated, and through the HPTA, a signal tells our testes to stop producing testosterone. During a cycle the body has far higher than normal levels of androgens and, as long as this level is high enough, Clomid will not help to keep natural testosterone production up. It will be almost all but completely shut off, in theory.

Some heavy androgen users, however, do advocate a small burst of Clomid mid-cycle, though it must be hard for them to say if it really of any benefit, due to the amount of gear they are using. Therefore, the only purpose of Clomid during a cycle is as an anti-estrogen.