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Rumsfeld's speech

god. sorry i didnt respond fast enough gympoppa, i was busy sleeping and being at class. i will come back and disect this later tonight.

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p0ink said:
if september 11th never happened, and bush went before the american people telling them he had substantial evidence that al-qaeda was going to hijack american planes and fly them into building, would you support a pre-emptive strike? most likely not.

do we need a few extra thousand dead americans to convince you?

and how come all of the democrats were all for using military action against iraq during the clinton administration, but now they suddenly did a 180?

2 questions:

1- Why would Saddam commit suicide and attack the US (remember he's not that much religious).

2- How would he do that ?
 
ahh, ttlpkg......spinning away huh?

Bro, whereever you're getting your numbers from, it's flawed.

I already spoke about polls. I don't believe in them, because it's too easy to slant the question, and therefore influence the answer.

Like I said before, it's easy to change the opinion of ignorant, uninformed americans by.........doing emotionally charged press conferences ...........continously..............conducting polls in a manner that creates answers favorable for your cause.............there is no new evidence put out, ONLY speculative rehashed reports. Bush even attempted to misle the public with the atomic report (1996), which they White House hastily recanted when it was noted. NOW, you will ignore these and do what you always do.....make posts about me ranting. You rarely ever acknowledge the facts.

This administrations claims change every time someone questions, or has evidence to refute the dubious attempts to mislead the public, or whoever.

First it was Atta meeting with some Iraqi official.........now they've moved to the al-queada link of no substance.

Now, all along, the CIA has not produced ANY evidence to back ANY of the speculative claims these defectors have been feeding the government. NONE.

And now, because of these lacking reports to substantiate their weak, pathetic claims, the CIA refused to appear at the SI hearings/debate.

If you want to engage in some debate about these facts, and others like them, I'm for it. I'm not interested in your polls, or other biased propaganda you've swallowed whole. Post some links, or either a reputable source that I can research myself. and it's all good.


manny78, I agree......why would this dude attack the US?

No one in this government could make me believe that he is willing to commit suicide, or that he has the capability to do so.

Like I said before, it's known that our previous administrations have created supposed incidents to influence opinion about war.

War should not be the first option. ONLY under pressure from the world did Bush go before the UN.

Maybe you can tell me why doesn't he just go and attack Iraq?

What is he waiting for? I remember you saying a few months ago, we could go in to Iraq alone, well, what is he waiting for?

Bottom line is, we cannot do this alone. As much of a superpower we are, we need help. It's hard to launch a war from aircraft carriers. B-1/B-52's don't land on those.
 
VballPlayer said:
Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war
in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor,
for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.
It both emboldens the blood,just as it narrows the mind....
And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch
and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed,
the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the
citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded with patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader, and gladly so. How do I know?
For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."

- William Shakespeare





Shakespeare never said that hunny....its ok Barbara did it too LOL

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20021002/ap_wo_en_po/us_people_streisand_1
 
What if these agemcies know something but are not telling because the last thing we need is more fear. How would the nation react if a mostly completed plan to desseminate immense amounts of bio and chem warfare in the US was revealed?
 
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