Rumsfeld's speech

[Testosterone boy]

it is apparent that Donald Rumsfeld is going to be the GOP spokesperson in the Iraqi conflict. He seems Presidential and holds his own. Pretty good smile for a CEO.

What they really need is a compelling reason to invade Iraq. They have some good reasons but I don't see an overiding need to do things now that is far greater than the reasons to wait and inspect and gather more data.

They argue that it may become too late if we wait. True...but it may be too quick if we don't. I don't foresee gaining hardly any global approval with the evidence we have presented. We need MORE evidence. A smoking gun so to speak.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

A war right now would help Bush get re-elected. I'm surprised he didn't wait until closer to election time to begin the war.

 

[VballPlayer]

Don't forget the war is taking away all the attention from the failing economy. An issue that Bush does not seem to want to address or fix.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

Don't forget the war is taking away all the attention from the failing economy. An issue that Bush does not seem to want to address or fix.

The president is powerless when it comes to fixing the economy, it's not his fault

 

[Testosterone boy]

A war right now would help Bush get re-elected. I'm surprised he didn't wait until closer to election time to begin the war.

I really doubt that Bush wants a war for re-election purposes. He hates Saddam because Saddam tried to kill his dad whom he is very close to.

 

[Testosterone boy]

If Saddam REALLY is close to making a nuclear weapon, WHO GIVES a fuck what the world thinks??? Take him out.

But they're not. Which makes me suspicious about the whole iraq thing. If your neighbour was inventing a weapont o kill your entire family...would YOU waste your time whining to the police, or would you do something to protect yourself and/or take this guy out b4 he takes you out?

the liberals (like the morons attacking police today whining about all those poor countries, give me a fucking break, damn liberals) are started to get more press time now, and attacking Bush more, and Bush's popularity is starting to decline now. So yes Bush needs something else to tie the coutnry together and get his popularity up again.

All those morons who are attacking Bush now, are the same dorks who voted for Gore in the last election.

-= nav =-

Well put...reminds me of a thread I have been debating. "Does the US need the rest of the world"? Good thing we have so many serious guys into foreign policy.

 

[VballPlayer]

Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war
in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor,
for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword.
It both emboldens the blood,just as it narrows the mind....
And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch
and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed,
the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the
citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded with patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader, and gladly so. How do I know?
For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."

- William Shakespeare


Know it. Live it. Learn it!

- Fast Times At Ridgmont High

 

[thebabydoc]

A war right now would help Bush get re-elected. I'm surprised he didn't wait until closer to election time to begin the war.

Oh, I'm sorry, did he begin his re-election campaign while I was sleeping. Don't be fucking ridiculous; you sound like Ted Kennedy.

Originally posted by VBallPlayer
Don't forget the war is taking away all the attention from the failing economy. An issue that Bush does not seem to want to address or fix.

The economy fucking sucks because of a lack of confidence caused by 1. Criminally-acting CEO's who figured that if Clinton could understate his sexual exploits, they could understate the amount they were fucking stealing, and 2. The fact that shit like Sadam and Osama and the rest of the fucking Middle East terrorists control oil and continue to hold strings over our country we haven't fucking taken it away from them yet.

As for acting too quickly...
Who gives a fuck what the world thinks
I'm sorry, since when was 10 years "too quick"
And even if he got it wrong, the expression is "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" Only problem is if we get fooled a second time we're gonna be looking at some serious consequences- i.e. weapons of mass destruction. That ain't a risk that I'm willing to take.

 

[Testosterone boy]

As for acting too quickly...
Who gives a fuck what the world thinks
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And that would be a NO vote. We don't need the rest of the world. thanks for the input. Good insights.

 

[manny78]

What they really need is a compelling reason to invade Iraq. They have some good reasons but I don't see an overiding need to do things now that is far greater than the reasons to wait and inspect and gather more data.

They argue that it may become too late if we wait. True...but it may be too quick if we don't. I don't foresee gaining hardly any global approval with the evidence we have presented. We need MORE evidence. A smoking gun so to speak.

I may not agree with a war against Iraq but when you're in such a powerful position as the US are, you don't really need a reason or the green light by any country...