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Routine for a 12 year old...

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WARNING: This is a long post, but considering the age of the person, I felt it was important to explain the situation, and go into detail.



My nephew is overweight, and is even starting to grow boobs. He will be 13 in a few months. He wants to change. He's tried playing sports, but he's no good at them, and he doesn't lose any weight. I tell his mother (my sister in law) that he needs to eat better. He refuses to eat home cooked meals, and makes a huge fit. So his mother let's him eat take out, sugary crap, lot's of soda. His grandfather buys him 'diet' dr peppers along with at least $10.00 worth of candy (no lie!). "Yeah, I'm giving him diet soda to lose weight" What about all that candy.

The problem is, his step father pays him NO attention. He treats him like a stranger. He doesn't want to be a father figure. His real father is god knows where. His mother is wrapped up in her own life. And now they are having a baby together. He wanted his 'own' kid, as if his wife's child is not good enough. Basically this kid ignored by everyone, except my wife and myself. His grandfather is around him a lot, but all he does is load him up on sugar, and buy him more video games.

Here's where the routine part comes in. Up until I got married to my wife, he was very disrespectful. I think more than anything he was acting up and rude, because he was seeking some attention. When I started to come around he looked up to me instantly. If I tell him "study for that test" or "don't eat so much junk, eat home cooked meals" He LISTENS. So today I made a deal with him. He told me kids make fun of his body (he's not one of those obese kids, he just has a little stomach and the tits are just starting to grow). He's what you'd call slightly chubby or husky.

He wants to change and lose weight. Right now he just got involved in karate, but he want's to lift weights. His step dad was an Ex Mr. Nothing (won a small title back in the 80's, still thinks he's hotshit driving around in a vette, hair plugs in, gold chain, fanny pack, clown pants, etc), and thinks he knows EVERYTHING. For example before he ever met me, he told my wife, "Oh he's taking tons of steroids, I can just tell by looking at him." Basic all around rude ass. Since the step father could careless (even with all his 'knowledge'), I agreed to his mother that I would help him get into shape.

I told them both right out that the nutrition needed to change, because that's the big problem. I told him and his mother, only home cooked meals, no take out, candy or non stop sugary drinks all day). I said an occasional treat is fine, but when pizza and mcdonalds becomes breakfast lunch and dinner, then there's a problem. I told him to eat the chicken, steak etc your parents make, eat lot's of veggies, fruits, milk. So, I told him if I find out he is eating right, limiting all the sugar and take out, and improves his math grade, when he becomes a teen, I'll let him join the gym I go to. At that point in time, I know exactly what type of program I would put him on, but for now I think it would be best to do a few body weight exercises a few times a week, and focus on taking him to play ball or go skating on days I don't work.

For the routine part, I was thinking having him do a set of body weight squats/knee bends, push ups (on his knees if he can't do regular ones at first), and floor chins, I think that's the proper name for them (putting a broom handle between two crates/chairs and have him do chins like that). And that's about it. Maybe a few sets of crunches. Basically have him try to do more and more reps each workout. Eventually working up to let's say 50-100 reps at a time.

Maybe have him do this routine 2-3 times a week for a few months, then start using a 2lb vinyl weight set bar to learn proper form on a few basic exercises as bench, squat and row. Not actually using any weight, just the 2lb bar to learn proper form for the future.

I thought that combined with the ball games, skating, some bike rides etc, and finally eating home cooked meals, he would get in better shape and finally lose some weight. Hopefully the boobs will go away, but I explained to his mother, that one day surgery may be needed, only time will tell.

Does this plan sound solid? Would it be too much for him? I've never had experience training someone so young, and I am open to all suggestions. He's had a recent health check up, so all is fine there. Any bro's have any advice?
 
i think stregth training can be considered.. but first of all.. cardio!! lose all those fat first.. and i think u've got nutrition covered.. so i wouldn't worry too much if u were monitoring him strictly..

good luck..
 
get a 50lb heavy bag from academy.
learn/teach him proper punching techniques.

starting out, have him warm up each day with a 1/4 or 1/2 mile run.
then have him go 3 - 1minute rounds on the heavy bag (aggressively).
then afterwards, have him do stomach exersizes.

as he gets more stamina and in better shape, increase each exersize.
(ie: 1 mile run, 3 - 2minute rounds, more stomach exersizes, jump rope, etc)

that along with an improved diet will certainly get him in better shape quickly.
 
I'll try to post up more later if I can, but this is a link to teaching the squat and focuses on training the younger athlete. There is a lot of focus on training younger athletes in this website forum, it may be a good place to develop a program for this young person. You're right to consider nutrition, its where most of the now generation falters. Good luck.

Teaching the Squat to Beginners
 
my brother was quite overweight when he was younger. he started lifting with me when he was around 14. he's never been a natural athlete, and ate a lot of junk food. his diet never changed. he trained like shit for the first year on and off too (you know, common high school stuff... benching and curling) and didn't make any progress.

but when he hit the weights hard with me and learned to squat and deadlift, (when we got our gym set up), there was a huge change in his body. he trained just like i did and he is completely different physically now.

my brother is still a bit chubby (maybe 15% BF?), and not the best of athletes, but the boy is strong as shit and doesn't look sloppy. he also backsquats 365, and pulls 385 at 16yrs and 190lbs. these are modest numbers for a guy who doesn't take training paticularly seriously and only goes 3x a week with modified 5x5s.

this has lead me to believe: once someone has the strength base, why train anyone any differently just because of their body type, sex, age, or whatever?

why do 100 crunches?

those things are boring and no one will ever want to keep it up.

moral of the story: squat, bench, and deadlift.
 
It's definately a great start. I right now train a 17 year old, my nephew, he's very athletic, picks everything up right now and is very strong. We've been training together since November.

My brother calls and asks if i mind if a guy he knows son joins us, I say no problem. This kid is 14, very short but stoudt (?). I started getting him involved with our normal workouts, we train westside, and it was touch and go. He seemed like he wanted to all that he could but i realized quickly he lacked core strenght and stabilizer strength.

I had him doing on nights we didn't train, banded good mornings and knees out press thingys with a band (can't come up with a name) to help his core strenght a bit and keep his knees out when box squatting.

We then got to bench day, speed was fine, max effort forget about it, so i had him start of doing 100 push ups a night, first set as many has he could then sets of 10 to 20 with 45 -60 seconds rest max.

What is most important with training kids is know whether you intend to or not, you do become a surrogate figure in their life. Other than helping these kids with strength and self image, you have to become that positive influence that helps these kids gain confidence and stay postive.

Sometimes they need a kick in the pants or a pat on the back, but you being in their lives speaks volumes, good for you man and keep us posted on the results.

Attempted to post this this morning but ya know...
 
"A man never stands so tall to help a child."

This is a terrific thing you are doing. The young man has an opportunity to learn about diet and training, and build his self esteem.

After he turns things around a bit, you can get him doing a full body routine maybe 2 sets per exercise ... on a split. Light weights and attention to form.

I did this for my son. As soon as he could do a full routine, I bought him three sessions with a local Mr. Universe Natural in his gym. Each session was about 2 hours long with a lot of explaination as to how the muscles function and the related exercises. It did him a lot of good to hear the message again from another man.
 
Cardio really is the way to go. A good friend of mine was probably 230 lbs or so at 5'9" in high school and looked very overweight. He started boxing and he's been doing that for almost 2 years now (not competing, just sparring to help train local fighters that are trying to work their way up) and he looks completely different. My mother didn't recognize him at all when she saw him over the summer.

Another friend of mine lost probably 50 lbs over the course of a year, but I think his came from snorting Ritalin and coke all the time. :worried:
 
I want to thank everyone for all the wonderful ideas, and words of encouragement. I have a lot of reading to do. Those links are great.

It's a difficult situation. His step father hates me with a passion. His reason? He hates that I'm into bodybuilding. I guess he thought that was his thing. When he found out about me helping his step son, he got very mad. Yet he won't do a thing to help him. It's not 'his kid'. Wow, what a winner! I'm around for the long haul. It was actually my uncle who got me involved in all of this. For me it was the opposite. I was very thin and picked on. He got me involved in weight lifting. I'll never forget doing deads with his barbell set. When the going get's tough, I'm going to recall those wonderful memories and how they planted the seeds of self confidence for me, and I'll also look back on the wonderful replies that I've gotten right here on this post. Thank you all so much. - C3
 
13 years old...

The bodyweight exercises are perfect. Carlsuen and others are right, too. He needs cardio, but it must be FUN for him. It would be unfortunate if he was forced to run, swim, bike, or whatever form of cardio, and he subsequently developed a negative mindset to it. The "fun" factor will be paramount for success.

The good thing is that he apparently WANTS to exercise, and you have his respect. So, you can do some different types of running, walking, jogging, jumping, or basically anything active, and explain that not only is it fun, but it will help him achieve his goal. I don't want to sound twisted psychologically, but his mind is pretty open to suggestion from you, and you have a huge opportunity to create a positive mindset that could stick with him for life. Be as upbeat as possible, teach him, and keep the excitement going. Your idea of doing a few more reps of each exercise is a great motivator and source of excitement, but don't neglect the possibility of a few more yards ran, minutes walked, hops and skips performed, etc.

My point is not to neglect or ignore the basic exercise movements, but right now, at 13, he simply needs to burn calories. The exercise movements will begin to teach his nervous system to pattern and function appropriately, and that will be a nice benefit down the road. Muscularly, however, there will be little appreciable increase in size until our good friend testosterone starts flowing freely at puberty.

I truly wish you all the best of luck. It is stories like these that make me love the field of training, but it is also stories like this one that makes me want to beat the sh!t out of parents. Good luck and God bless.
 
Wow! This sounds rather close to how i was in 6th grade i weighed 165 lbs was 5'0 and benched about 80 and couldent squat anything on the bar. In 7th i got into football never really lost any weight, however i got a tiny stronger maybe benched 95 and could squat about the same. I really sucked at football and dident really care to much about it, i just wanted to get stronger and loose weight, but never really ate good. Then one day this girl said she would go out with me if i lost weight and in 2 months i went all the way down too 95 lbs. I would not suggest this or anything just saying it takes somethin drastic sometimes to change u. I ate about 300 calories a day which could have killed me eventually, but as of now im glad i did it. once i got down to 95 i started eating better and read a little about it.(wish i would have had someone to help me before) No one even gave me positive reforcement which may have helped me because i wanted to prove i could do it and quit being made fun of. At the end of football around christmas in 8th grade i benched 145 lbs. weighed 120 and was about 5'4". Im now a senior in high school and i bench 260 squat maybe 300 and i weigh 155 lbs. and im about 5'8" and everyone that used to talk shit will no longer say anything to me. I really did not lift that often and just started up about 6 months ago and went from benching 180 to now 260. So just remind him anyone can do it if i could he can, and he has help from you! I think just because i did that now i can do just about anything i set my mind too.

If it was me training the kid i would try building up his stamina maybe running and working up to about a 5 mile brisk jog without stopping. Tell him to eat 5 times a day just like anyone else says and try to make sure its as good as possible and keep the cals down. I would also suggest maybe doing the 5x5 for beginners or something like that after maybe a month or half a month of teaching him technique. I know thats alot probly, im just suggesting to try ur best. You just have to explain what it takes and if he wants it bad enough he will do it. Wants he notices hes changing for the good he will want to keep doing it i know i did. Even though i stopped for some time, but now im back into it and almost addicted.
 
Whatever you do with him, I think if you kept giving him little goals to acheive, it'd make it more interesting for him and the sense of acheivement in getting them would make him feel great and fuel further progress. For example, time him on a bike ride/run over a set distance, then set a goal of knocking 5% off. Try to make it hard enough that he has to put the effort in, but not hard enough that it takes too long to acheive.

Keeping a record of his times/distances/weights would become a good thing to look back on. Once he's doing well, looking back at where he started would give him further sense of acheivement.

And if you can get him to associate eating well with helping acheive his goals, then all the better. I know I cut back on the booze when I first started trying to get fit because I could see that it was affecting my workouts. You won't have the same issue with a 12 year old, but you know what I mean!

It sounds like you've got a great opportunity here. Good luck!
 
Chambewy20 said:
It's definately a great start. I right now train a 17 year old, my nephew, he's very athletic, picks everything up right now and is very strong. We've been training together since November.

My brother calls and asks if i mind if a guy he knows son joins us, I say no problem. This kid is 14, very short but stoudt (?). I started getting him involved with our normal workouts, we train westside, and it was touch and go. He seemed like he wanted to all that he could but i realized quickly he lacked core strenght and stabilizer strength.

I had him doing on nights we didn't train, banded good mornings and knees out press thingys with a band (can't come up with a name) to help his core strenght a bit and keep his knees out when box squatting.

We then got to bench day, speed was fine, max effort forget about it, so i had him start of doing 100 push ups a night, first set as many has he could then sets of 10 to 20 with 45 -60 seconds rest max.

What is most important with training kids is know whether you intend to or not, you do become a surrogate figure in their life. Other than helping these kids with strength and self image, you have to become that positive influence that helps these kids gain confidence and stay postive.

Sometimes they need a kick in the pants or a pat on the back, but you being in their lives speaks volumes, good for you man and keep us posted on the results.

Attempted to post this this morning but ya know...

Extremely positive words. As Lion said a man never stands so tall as to help a child...and you are. Not only will they have fond memories to look back upon, but you will have instilled in them something more than just the muscle that comes from lifting - they will have the courage to make a difference in whatever they choose to do in life. Strength comes in many forms and knowing someone took the time to teach and cared to do so will be appreciated forever.
 
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=36557&tid=106

Did a variation of this movement this morning with my guys, was attempting a little shoulder work / rehab, it kicked our asses. If you do it in a squat postition, 3 sets each arm, it really smokes posterior chain and helps cores strength. Will start incorporating as a warm-up / pre-exhaustive type movement. Also did in the back corner of the gym so we didn't look like geeks, had to stop the guys from doing it simoultaneously, gotta maintain my image ya know.... yeah right.

http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=36555&tid=106

Heres another.

Am dying to get some kettlbells and a training dvd to accompany but db's will work for now.

http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=36556&tid=106

and another...
 
Chambewy20 said:
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=36557&tid=106

Did a variation of this movement this morning with my guys, was attempting a little shoulder work / rehab, it kicked our asses. If you do it in a squat postition, 3 sets each arm, it really smokes posterior chain and helps cores strength. Will start incorporating as a warm-up / pre-exhaustive type movement. Also did in the back corner of the gym so we didn't look like geeks, had to stop the guys from doing it simoultaneously, gotta maintain my image ya know.... yeah right.

http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=36555&tid=106

Heres another.

Am dying to get some kettlbells and a training dvd to accompany but db's will work for now.

http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=36556&tid=106

and another...

I will be implementing these for shoulder rehab, thanks for this great information. One day I will again train shoulders. :)

Your guys probably liked the variation. Good stuff all around.
 
Chambewy20 said:
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=36557&tid=106

Did a variation of this movement this morning with my guys, was attempting a little shoulder work / rehab, it kicked our asses. If you do it in a squat postition, 3 sets each arm, it really smokes posterior chain and helps cores strength. Will start incorporating as a warm-up / pre-exhaustive type movement. Also did in the back corner of the gym so we didn't look like geeks, had to stop the guys from doing it simoultaneously, gotta maintain my image ya know.... yeah right.

http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=36555&tid=106

Heres another.

Am dying to get some kettlbells and a training dvd to accompany but db's will work for now.

http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/default.asp?qid=36556&tid=106

and another...

I have a pair of adjustable KB's since the real ones are too expensive. Right now I've just got them at 35lbs and the 1-arm swings kick my ass, although I don't have them in my regimen at the moment.

I've got the Mike Mahler strength DVD and it's pretty good, lots of content and it's impressive to see him do all those moves with the 70lb'ers.

Also since you're a PL you might've read this article:

http://www.dragondoor.com/success_stories/DonnieThompson.html
 
Never new adjustable KB's existed, nice alternative for the not so wealthy.

I read Donnie Thompson's workouts a lot as well as Marc Bartleys on elitefts. They use them all the time, IMO they're great for a ton of different things as well as breaking the monotony of everyday gym exercises.

Will have to grow a pair and get a couple of pair. DB's will do for now.
 
Someone was having a little fun this morning and decided to show me some love, thought it was supposed to last for an hour but who knows, I ain't into all this stuff, just try to help folks out if i can and voice my opinion when the urge hits me...
 
get the kid eating good nutrition meals, lots of protein. very hard to gain weight with a high protein intake.

lots of cardio and light lifting will definetly show results.

i dont think surgery should be brought up or even considered, especially as a 12 year old with a slight weight problem.

if the kid hates his step dad, use that as motivation.
 
holu shit no way man.. don't turn him against his dad.. he will turn against everyone in life later.. never teach a child to hate.. he will hate u in return later..
 
I was a huge fatass when I was younger. I think in 5th grade I weighed 205 lbs. By the time I got to 7th grade I was about 210 (did wonders for our undefeated football season :-)
Then wrestling season came around. I tried that and I happened to have 2 of the best coaches you could ever ask for. I went from 210 to wrestling at 162 in about 2 months. I didn't try to cut weight either, it just slid right off. The only thing in my diet that changed was I quit drinking soda.

Anways, if he is interested, wrestling is a great way to get 'the chubby' kid into a sport that will help him get in shape and put him up against people at his weight. I also recommend joining a freestyle club in the summer.

If that isn't an option here is our wrestling workout schedule:
2 hours 5 days a week
200+pushups
200+situps/crunches
wind sprints
2 mile jogs
and then actual wrestling in a 102 degree wrestling room.

It's a mix of hard work + spending 2 hours after school working out rather than sitting at home eating twinkies and cheetos after school.

By far, wrestling was the best thing that ever happened to me as a kid.
 
Awesome post Cyrex!

I got him to agree to eat clean, nutrious home cooked meals 6 days out of the week, with a reward of a pizza or mcdonalds on the weekends if he eats all his proper food his mom cooks all week. He also is going to replace all sugar snacks with sugar free jello, a protein shake or lil bit of sherbert.

So far he is very motivated. But get this, his prick fucking stepfather LAUGHED at him trying to get into shape and called him a Pillsburry Dough Boy. When I heard about that, I wanted to go over there and rip his fucking hair plugs out. This kid has no self esteem as it is, this guy is supposed to be an ex Mr. Nothing (local title from the 80s), he should be helping him out, not making him cry and feel worse. But I reserved myself and figure the best revenge will be when his step son looks better than him in a couple of years. :)
 
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