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Rotator Cuff exercises

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Do you do them at the beginning of your workout or at the end (or somewhere in-between) ?

And how many times a week ?
 
I do them before each workout, but that is b/c I tore mine about 2 years ago, so I am on a little different schedule than others. I know I have seen people say they do it afterwards - I would love to know the reasoning behind this, cause it makes no sense initially. But it may once I hear some logic to it.
 
I do them as part of my shoulder routine. I tore my RC about 3 years ago and was taught some good RC move by my physical therapist. I believe the've made my shoulders stronger and wouldn't dream of not doing them as part of my regular shoulder workout..................
 
BFG!@# said:
I do them as part of my shoulder routine. I tore my RC about 3 years ago and was taught some good RC move by my physical therapist. I believe the've made my shoulders stronger and wouldn't dream of not doing them as part of my regular shoulder workout..................


how long did it take you to get back to full strength?
 
RC exercises should be done very very lightly, at the beginning. its really to get the blood flowing there and stay warm
 
Anthrax said:
Do you do them at the beginning of your workout or at the end (or somewhere in-between) ?

And how many times a week ?

When I first injured my shoulder I was doing exercises 3x daily 5-6 days a week. That was rehab though and w/ extremely light weights (5lbs or black theraband). I actually saw pretty explosive growth in my shoulders while doing this, but then again I was 19 and had never really lifted shoulders before. I continued doing the same routine 2 days a week as my regular shoulder day...it was a few years later that I actually added military and other shoulder lifts in.

Since I started my HST program (almost 2 months ago) I've neglected my RC workout...after reading this thread I may just add it on to a Sunday cardio session, light weights like sugarplum said just to get some blood flowing.
 
AirWolf said:
When I first injured my shoulder I was doing exercises 3x daily 5-6 days a week. That was rehab though and w/ extremely light weights (5lbs or black theraband). I actually saw pretty explosive growth in my shoulders while doing this, but then again I was 19 and had never really lifted shoulders before. I continued doing the same routine 2 days a week as my regular shoulder day...it was a few years later that I actually added military and other shoulder lifts in.

Since I started my HST program (almost 2 months ago) I've neglected my RC workout...after reading this thread I may just add it on to a Sunday cardio session, light weights like sugarplum said just to get some blood flowing.


I tore my cuff and did a similar routine where I just hit the cuff 5 times a week. hi reps, low weight. I tapered off from there. I would definitely keep it in your routine, maybe at the beginning of a chest or shoulder day.
 
I screwed my cuff a couple of times before I decided to see an ART practitioner last year

3 months later (ART costs quite a bit) I felt a little better but I've not totally recovered
 
Anthrax said:
I screwed my cuff a couple of times before I decided to see an ART practitioner last year

3 months later (ART costs quite a bit) I felt a little better but I've not totally recovered


bro - it's been 2 years for me and I have still not recovered 100%.
 
KillahBee said:
bro - it's been 2 years for me and I have still not recovered 100%.

Can you lift w/o pain at least ?

For me, I no longer have this sharp pain, unless I'm doing inclines, heavy BB bench press and military press
 
Anthrax said:
Can you lift w/o pain at least ?

For me, I no longer have this sharp pain, unless I'm doing inclines, heavy BB bench press and military press


for the most part. but it still is keeping me from making any major gains in any sort of bench press.
 
WalkingBeast said:
Anyone have links on how to do various rotator exercises? Ive wanted to add them in, but dont know any exercises for them.
Rot cuff exercises :)
 
I use a shoulder horn. On upper body days I use it with ridiculously light weights as a warmup, and never to failure. For example, 10 reps with no weight, 10 reps with the little pink dumbells, 6 reps, 4 reps with slight increases in weight. It's just to get the blood moving.
On chest day I do this warmup, and following the chest exercises I do 3 sets of 15 reps (to failure).
Shoulder horns are pretty cheap. They're a good investment.
 
I bought a nice set of bands that came with handles and a velcro strap to secure it to the post on a power rack (or in my case, around my foot so I can work on my ankle). I got them from a big PT center. I think it was $15 for 2 different bands/1 handle/1 fastener. They had 2 sets - 1 with lighter bands and 1 with heavier (nothing super heavy - this is rehab and rotator stuff). I've always wanted a decent set of these. It's a worthwhile purchase to have in your permanent arsenal. You can do without them but for $15 I'll splurge on my joints.
 
beachbum777 said:
who cares madcow
Nice contribution.

Why don't you leave threads and people who are trying to share information and better themselves alone. Go build self-esteem in a more effective way than by taking random and generally uninspired shots at others.
 
OK! Thats It My patience has run out!!!!! BYE!!!!



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fuck you madcow waddle yourself up someone elses ass
 
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beachbum777 said:
fuck you madcow waddle yourself up someone elses ass
The reason why I quote your posts is so that when the admin gets the report you don't have a chance to edit them out.

You may hate me (for what sudden reason I have no idea nor do I care) but you might consider appologizing to the person who's threads you have not only taken totally off topic but completely bastardized.
 
Madcow2 said:
The reason why I quote your posts is so that when the admin gets the report you don't have a chance to edit them out.

You may hate me (for what sudden reason I have no idea nor do I care) but you might consider appologizing to the person who's threads you have not only taken totally off topic but completely bastardized.


I have no clue what this shit is about, but can we leave that BS in C&C? This thread is important. Thanks.
 
KillahBee said:
bro - it's been 2 years for me and I have still not recovered 100%.

Hell - its been 14 years for me...for my right shoulder. Blew it out pitching w/o warming up properly, I was 13 - who knew. I have a partially torn tendon in my right shoulder (called a SLAP lesion) - its consistently 10% weeker than my left shoulder which is weird...it hurts every time I work out, it even hurts when I run because of the repetitive motion of swingin my arms.

Anyway - I added cuff exercises back in - did my first routine of them today. Thanks for the reminder...

My routine - done w/ 10lb dBs

3x15 shoulder rotations - done laying on my side on a flat bench rotating with elbow at 90 degrees moving weight from my stomach as far as I can w/o moving my elbow away from my body.

Superset of the following:

3x15 front raises - thumbs up
3x15 side raises - thumbs up
3x15 45 degrees (between front and side) w/ thumbs down

By thumbs up I mean keep the dB vertical (your thumbs pointing to the ceiling) - thumbs down=oppisite of that.
 
One more thing...on the raises - never let the weight go above shoulder level. It doesn't help any and it could cause injury. Those guys jacking raises up to vertical are just asking for trouble.
 
AirWolf said:
Hell - its been 14 years for me...for my right shoulder. Blew it out pitching w/o warming up properly, I was 13 - who knew. I have a partially torn tendon in my right shoulder (called a SLAP lesion) - its consistently 10% weeker than my left shoulder which is weird...it hurts every time I work out, it even hurts when I run because of the repetitive motion of swingin my arms.

Anyway - I added cuff exercises back in - did my first routine of them today. Thanks for the reminder...

My routine - done w/ 10lb dBs

3x15 shoulder rotations - done laying on my side on a flat bench rotating with elbow at 90 degrees moving weight from my stomach as far as I can w/o moving my elbow away from my body.

Superset of the following:

3x15 front raises - thumbs up
3x15 side raises - thumbs up
3x15 45 degrees (between front and side) w/ thumbs down

By thumbs up I mean keep the dB vertical (your thumbs pointing to the ceiling) - thumbs down=oppisite of that.


That causes flashbacks to my shoulder rehab after two surgeries. :(

Take care of your shoulders people, because they affect your entire upper body workout. Since my surgeries I am not able to raise my left arm but so much, and it won't get any better. I now have to be creative in my workouts. I had to replace overhead db presses with smith machine military presses because I can't get my left arm in position for db presses anymore. It has affected my bench lifts, curls, plus anything overhead. Now I have to get creative, but I do find a way to work around it. I've learned to love ice after working out.
 
That's rough to hear, big4life. Hopefully I never end up with such problems. What are the ways to damage your rotator cuffs, and what can be done to prevent injury of them?
 
Tom Treutlein said:
That's rough to hear, big4life. Hopefully I never end up with such problems. What are the ways to damage your rotator cuffs, and what can be done to prevent injury of them?


I think there are numerous ways. Personally, I hurt mine trying too do too much weight with DB overhead presses and poor form as a noob. I think the key is to begin to condition them before you hurt them, as many don't do. They are very small muscles that don't really get worked much in a normal shoulder routine - this is why people should do a few rotator-specific movements once or twice a week with very light weight and high reps. IMO.
 
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