Ross or anyone else that shares same theory

[DonCorleone562]

Ross,
I've read many of your posts. Great stuff. In particular you mention that every cycle needs a kicker, base, asst. base and a finisher. What finisher would you recommend for my cycle? I was thinking of running dbol a second time towards the end of the cycle. I'm looking to bulk. Trying to keep it as lean as possible. So maybe no dbol towards the end?

30mg/day Dbol weeks 1-4
750mg TestE weeks 1-14
600mg EQ weeks 1-15
Finisher? Maybe dbol again?

thanks

 

[stbizzle]

Knowing Ross it'll either be Winny or Var....

 

[Ross]

Ross,
I've read many of your posts. Great stuff. In particular you mention that every cycle needs a kicker, base, asst. base and a finisher. What finisher would you recommend for my cycle? I was thinking of running dbol a second time towards the end of the cycle. I'm looking to bulk. Trying to keep it as lean as possible. So maybe no dbol towards the end?

30mg/day Dbol weeks 1-4
750mg TestE weeks 1-14
600mg EQ weeks 1-15
Finisher? Maybe dbol again?

thanks

I would structure the cycle strategically, like this:

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 30mgs
Weeks 1-10: Testosterone Enanthate, 500mgs
Weeks 1-12: Equipoise, 600mgs
Weeks 8-14: Turinabol- 60mgs ED, OR Anavar-50mgs ED, or Winstrol-100mgs ED

I lowered your Testosterone dosage to 500mgs and reduced it's duration by 2 weeks, I extended your Dianabol duration by 2 weeks, and shortened your Equipoise duration by 2 weeks.

Don't forget your Pre-PCT.

 

[DonCorleone562]

Thanks for the tips. So Tbol or Anavar or Winny. Maybe tbol or var for me. Why would you shorten it up? Also EQ longer time than the Test?

 

[Ross]

Thanks for the tips. So Tbol or Anavar or Winny. Maybe tbol or var for me. Why would you shorten it up? Also EQ longer time than the Test?

The cycle only needs 14 weeks total.

Equipoise needs to be run for a MINIMUM of 12 weeks for OPTIMAL results.

Testosterone is ONLY to be used for 10 weeks MAX.

The FINISHER is utilized right up until the minute you begin your PCT, if no Pre-PCT(Active Recovery) phase is going to be utilized.

 

[KrackerJam]

I would structure the cycle strategically, like this:

Weeks 1-6: Dianabol, 30mgs
Weeks 1-10: Testosterone Enanthate, 500mgs
Weeks 1-12: Equipoise, 600mgs
Weeks 8-14: Turinabol- 60mgs ED, OR Anavar-50mgs ED, or Winstrol-100mgs ED

I lowered your Testosterone dosage to 500mgs and reduced it's duration by 2 weeks, I extended your Dianabol duration by 2 weeks, and shortened your Equipoise duration by 2 weeks.

Don't forget your Pre-PCT.

You know, Ross, when you first showed back up, I thought some of your ideas were a little out there. But after reading this, I might need to go back and re-read some of you posts!!!

I ran damn near that same cycle several times while I was playing rugby over in Engalnd!! Love the EQ and Var, great combo for guys who compete in sports other than body builiding.

 

[Ross]

You know, Ross, when you first showed back up, I thought some of your ideas were a little out there. But after reading this, I might need to go back and re-read some of you posts!!!

I ran damn near that same cycle several times while I was playing rugby over in Engalnd!! Love the EQ and Var, great combo for guys who compete in sports other than body builiding.

Amen brotha...

 

[rdel85]

Ross, what about the train of thought that the test should be ran a week longer than eq, so the esters clear at the same time? Or are you saying since he is throwing in a finisher he doesn't need the extra test?

 

[nydj66]

The cycle only needs 14 weeks total.

Equipoise needs to be run for a MINIMUM of 12 weeks for OPTIMAL results.

Testosterone is ONLY to be used for 10 weeks MAX.

The FINISHER is utilized right up until the minute you begin your PCT, if no Pre-PCT(Active Recovery) phase is going to be utilized.

I follow all your logic there except the tesosterone for 10 weeks max. What's the thought process on that one?

 

[Ross]

Ross, what about the train of thought that the test should be ran a week longer than eq, so the esters clear at the same time? Or are you saying since he is throwing in a finisher he doesn't need the extra test?

He is running a Finisher so that eliminates the need.

 

[Ross]

I follow all your logic there except the tesosterone for 10 weeks max. What's the thought process on that one?

HPTA inhibition increases is severity as the duration of usage increases. 10 weeks appear to be the OPTIMAL duration for the MAXIMUM amount of gains, while simultaneously causing the LEAST amount of side-effects.

 

[Nelson Montana]

HPTA inhibition increases is severity as the duration of usage increases. 10 weeks appear to be the OPTIMAL duration for the MAXIMUM amount of gains, while simultaneously causing the LEAST amount of side-effects.

Agreed. There comes a point (some may say 10 weeks, others 2 months) where the response slows down dramatically. You then have two logical choices -- up the dosages, or get out. If you want optimal recovery.

Tolerance to test seems to occur a little quicker -- perhaps because it's naturally manufactured by the body. I do believe you can get benefit from primo for longer -- which is essentially Ross' concept of "finishing."

I do think that supression is even less if a cycle is kept under 6 weeks, but there's a risk/benefit ratio to everything and you'll get differing opinions on this. There's no set science to validate it one way or the other for everybody.

 

[solidspine]

30mg/day Dbol weeks 1-4
750mg TestE weeks 1-14
600mg EQ weeks 1-15
Finisher? Maybe dbol again?

thanks

I like winny at 50-100mg depending how much you have taken in the past,


I like anavar for girls, but if you are not a girl, take winny.


Actually a better option would be to finish the last 6 weeks with Fina or what some now call Tren Ace.