i would hardly call 150-300 mg of a 17aa oral a low deose. Also now that I'm thinking about it I think the earlier thread I was speaking of said that they use dbol and anadrol at the same time, at very high doseages. Fina doseage was somewhere like 300 mg a day. Basically some of these guys are potentially using like 20,000 mg's of gear a week. Thats a lot of gas. Also sit back and think for a minute how expensive that would be, especially with the huge dose of gh. Thats like 200 or more dollars of gh a day. however im sure their sponsors payfor it.