Roid rage?

[Wrongun]

I'm glad everyone here accepts that it is the individual's mental makeup which will proscribe him or her to exhibit aggressive,arrogant, hostile behavior and not so much the drug.
Self-control should be a prerequisite when using steroids. I use meditation daily.

Very true BUT do you not think that AAS can be in certain people a factor that can potentially cause some to exhibit aggressive, arrogant and hostile behavior? Some can do many cycles but then other influences while on cycle can cause the med to accelerate this behaviour within the user?

It is my belief all humans have the ability to show this and it is many influences that can cause some to realise it AAS being one

I do however believe that no matter what with the right training it can be managed.

Self control is massive BUT the definition of control is the point as some loose it and do not realise they have. AAS has caused this in some. If behaviour trained then more of a chance to control IMHO

Very good thread this and a very important subject IMHO

Wrongun!

 

[mrsocal]

why don't u research symptoms of anxiety and panic attack then go to a doc and tell him ur symptoms and tell him/her that a friend once gave u xanax or clonipin (0.5 mgs) and it helped"

all u need is one (1) 0.5 mg of those meds (they're in the Valium family) and u will feel mellow during ur cycle.

if ur usin that much juice, u must be a hard-gainer and i feel for u...that much dbol f's up ur liver even with liver protectant stuff like milk thistle and liv pro 52 & even primordial liver juice & even drinking at least a gal. of water. i would just stick to not more than 30 mgs/dbol a day.

have u been bruising easily???--that's a sign ur liver is being over-worked.

i'd just be extra-nice and smile a lot and just make stupid jokes to yourself..

even at the gym.. if u smile while pumping weights like David Henry IFBB pro does then your body is in a relaxed state kind of like the drunk driver who gets into an accident and doesn't get hurt at all cos the alcohol made his muscles real relaxed.

chiropractors tell their patients to smile just before an adjustment so the body part being manipulated/adjusted will be relaxed right at the moment when they do their "move"

u can't do much work outs at a mental ward of a hospital or a jail cell if you ever get in a roid rage bad enough...trust me...i know..i could do like 5 sets of 80 pushups and squeeze my chest after each set (ur chest & triceps get big), but dude--u don't want to be institutionalized for fighting with the dickhead on the city bus or the pencil-neck guy who cut you off and flipped u the bird. good luck.

 

[mrsocal]

oh...i forgot to clarify...my point of smiling while at the gym pumping weights & the drunk driver doesn't get hurt analogy is that smiling while ur lifting will relax your muscles & has the added effect of perhaps preventing serious tears and lifting injuries...add that to ur arsenal of warming up.

 

[tryin2tone]

oh...i forgot to clarify...my point of smiling while at the gym pumping weights & the drunk driver doesn't get hurt analogy is that smiling while ur lifting will relax your muscles & has the added effect of perhaps preventing serious tears and lifting injuries...add that to ur arsenal of warming up.

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[Wrongun]

Sorry i did not understand a word of that Mrsocal

I would not advise Xanax though but if thats how you cope with it ok but not my choice

Wrongun!

 

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Very true BUT do you not think that AAS can be in certain people a factor that can potentially cause some to exhibit aggressive, arrogant and hostile behavior? Some can do many cycles but then other influences while on cycle can cause the med to accelerate this behaviour within the user?

It is my belief all humans have the ability to show this and it is many influences that can cause some to realise it AAS being one

I do however believe that no matter what with the right training it can be managed.

Self control is massive BUT the definition of control is the point as some loose it and do not realise they have. AAS has caused this in some. If behaviour trained then more of a chance to control IMHO

Very good thread this and a very important subject IMHO

Wrongun!

Of course! If I were to smoke crack cocaine or shoot or snort heroin for the first time and this shit hits the pleasure centers of my brain and I find myself enjoying it, I'm fucked! LOL That's the same way steroids are to some individuals. The AAS turns these guys in "Mr. Hyde's" Then chemical and hormonal imbalances occur within the body thus causing internal and external alterations of one's environment. It is my opinion that some individuals are susceptible to such things. Whether it's genetic,chemical, or hormonal, no one tell until that behavior is exhibited while under the influence of that drug.
It would be something to see steriods with warning label:
"Warning: May cause aberrant, anti-social aggressive behavior in the user. Use with Caution".

 

[Wrongun]

Of course! If I were to smoke crack cocaine or shoot or snort heroin for the first time and this shit hits the pleasure centers of my brain and I find myself enjoying it, I'm fucked! LOL That's the same way steroids are to some individuals. The AAS turns these guys in "Mr. Hyde's" Then chemical and hormonal imbalances occur within the body thus causing internal and external alterations of one's environment. It is my opinion that some individuals are susceptible to such things. Whether it's genetic,chemical, or hormonal, no one tell until that behavior is exhibited while under the influence of that drug.
It would be something to see steriods with warning label:
"Warning: May cause aberrant, anti-social aggressive behavior in the user. Use with Caution".

Agree totally mate. Its a very serious side that can be realised and why it is annoying and naieve to simply say ''use self control'' as if under the ''influence'' it is possible to lose that control

Wrongun!

 

[back_2_baddness]

I realize that this is an ages old thread, but just for the benefit of those who may read this in the future, I am surprised that none of you self proclaimed authorities on steroids and steroid cycles in general, failed to mention or bring up to this guy that ESTROGEN is what causes "roid rage!" You muscleheads were so busy tripping over each other to tell this guy which androgenic steroid causes the most aggression etc. that you didnt even have the common sense to ask this guy, what if any, anti-estrogen he was doing, or take the time to explain to him the whole concept of the aromatization process and how that was relative, and related to his question!

 

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I realize that this is an ages old thread, but just for the benefit of those who may read this in the future, I am surprised that none of you self proclaimed authorities on steroids and steroid cycles in general, failed to mention or bring up to this guy that ESTROGEN is what causes "roid rage!" You muscleheads were so busy tripping over each other to tell this guy which androgenic steroid causes the most aggression etc. that you didnt even have the common sense to ask this guy, what if any, anti-estrogen he was doing, or take the time to explain to him the whole concept of the aromatization process and how that was relative, and related to his question!

You are absolute right! It came to light when I read your post.
I hadn't figured estrogen in my equation and how it floods the body causing "estrogen rage" and not "Roid Rage" Damn!
I simply overlooked the anti-estrogens because I don't used anti-estrogens since I began using steroids almost 7 seven years ago. I thank you for post. Now to look into this wyrm.

 

[liffalot]

I realize that this is an ages old thread, but just for the benefit of those who may read this in the future, I am surprised that none of you self proclaimed authorities on steroids and steroid cycles in general, failed to mention or bring up to this guy that ESTROGEN is what causes "roid rage!" You muscleheads were so busy tripping over each other to tell this guy which androgenic steroid causes the most aggression etc. that you didnt even have the common sense to ask this guy, what if any, anti-estrogen he was doing, or take the time to explain to him the whole concept of the aromatization process and how that was relative, and related to his question!

The reason that you havent seen anyone say that is because its not true - you're completely oversimplifying things.

The fact is, like many people have already stated, it isnt one specific hormone that causes aggression - its an imbalance of several important hormones.

Saying that AI's cause aggression is assinine without considering other factors.