Revised first cycle!!

[shrimp44]

alright revised cycle,
I am 23, 165 5'8 bulky smooth muscle probably 10% body fat
I have been lifting for 2 years very dedicated, barely drank, no drugs, gym ATLEAST 4 times a week, and cardio atleast 3 times a week for 20 mins everytime I eat like a horse, atleast 160grams of protein a day, I have decent cuts, and I don't look skinny, lol just my legs a little bit,

This is my first cycle and I know you guys are just gonna say 500mg of TEST E once a week for 10 weeks lol, but I don't want very very obvious gains, and I want minimum water retentation, although u guys are gonna suggest me not to use dbol, and deca, but i read with the right dieting u can use them, like any other anabolic steroid to cut

I already have these and I plan on using them

weeks 1-4 dbol pyramided max 30mg a day, starting 5 days, 10mg a day
weeks 1-10 250mg Deca shot once a week
weeks 4-10 250 sus shot once a week

I am DEFINETLY taking NOLVADEX but a little shady with the correct usage
I am thinking weeks 13-15?? 20mg a day??? I am not to sure what do you guys suggest for me with the nolvadex

I plan On dieting religously to cut

PLEASE COMMENT and RIP ME APART IF I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG!
YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW YOUR SHIT and I CONSIDER EVERYTHING YOU GUYS SAY, THANKS

 

[swordfish151]

alright revised cycle,
I am 23, 165 5'8 bulky smooth muscle probably 10% body fat
I have been lifting for 2 years very dedicated, barely drank, no drugs, gym ATLEAST 4 times a week, and cardio atleast 3 times a week for 20 mins everytime I eat like a horse, atleast 160grams of protein a day, I have decent cuts, and I don't look skinny, lol just my legs a little bit,

This is my first cycle and I know you guys are just gonna say 500mg of TEST E once a week for 10 weeks lol, but I don't want very very obvious gains, and I want minimum water retentation, although u guys are gonna suggest me not to use dbol, and deca, but i read with the right dieting u can use them, like any other anabolic steroid to cut

I already have these and I plan on using them

weeks 1-4 dbol pyramided max 30mg a day, starting 5 days, 10mg a day
weeks 1-10 250mg Deca shot once a week
weeks 4-10 250 sus shot once a week

I am DEFINETLY taking NOLVADEX but a little shady with the correct usage
I am thinking weeks 13-15?? 20mg a day??? I am not to sure what do you guys suggest for me with the nolvadex

I plan On dieting religously to cut

PLEASE COMMENT and RIP ME APART IF I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG!
YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW YOUR SHIT and I CONSIDER EVERYTHING YOU GUYS SAY, THANKS

You should keep the DBOL dosages constant and not ramp (no need for it) your going to want to get A-dex for the bloat..with the sust/deca even at 250mgs your going to need it...especially with the dbol.....for your first cycle you could do without the deca...whats yoru diet going to look like..your correct you can cut on any aas but you got sust/deca/dbol...not really my choice, but you will feel the bloat without the a-dex.

 

[bw1]

alright revised cycle,
I am 23, 165 5'8 bulky smooth muscle probably 10% body fat
I have been lifting for 2 years very dedicated, barely drank, no drugs, gym ATLEAST 4 times a week, and cardio atleast 3 times a week for 20 mins everytime I eat like a horse, atleast 160grams of protein a day, I have decent cuts, and I don't look skinny, lol just my legs a little bit,

This is my first cycle and I know you guys are just gonna say 500mg of TEST E once a week for 10 weeks lol, but I don't want very very obvious gains, and I want minimum water retentation, although u guys are gonna suggest me not to use dbol, and deca, but i read with the right dieting u can use them, like any other anabolic steroid to cut

I already have these and I plan on using them

weeks 1-4 dbol pyramided max 30mg a day, starting 5 days, 10mg a day
weeks 1-10 250mg Deca shot once a week
weeks 4-10 250 sus shot once a week

I am DEFINETLY taking NOLVADEX but a little shady with the correct usage
I am thinking weeks 13-15?? 20mg a day??? I am not to sure what do you guys suggest for me with the nolvadex

I plan On dieting religously to cut

PLEASE COMMENT and RIP ME APART IF I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG!
YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW YOUR SHIT and I CONSIDER EVERYTHING YOU GUYS SAY, THANKS

OK. let's see.. Bulky smooth muscle? Probably not 10%. What's your typical daily diet look like, or what do you have planned for your diet? Why are you starting the Sust at week four? Check out the PCT forum for proper PCT. I'll go along with you can cut with anything as long as your diets in check.So, Why not run a single compound for your first cycle? That way if you get sides you'll know what's causing them and the will be easier to correct. I think you need to adjust your plan

 

[UFC22]

This is the cycle you should be considering for your first run:
1-10or12 - test 500mgs/EW
1-4 - dbol 30mgs/ED of tbol 40mgs/ED
(run armidex at .5mgs through-out)

 

[shrimp44]

ehh too late, i already ordered the deca, i might just not take it, but i only have 6 amulets of sus at 250mg a piece, thats why i was gonna use the deca, well I was gonna eat around 6-7 meals a day goal was 300g carbs and 200g protein with brown rice, oatmeal, chicken, tuna, steak, protein shakes eggs

 

[Bozwell]

alright revised cycle,
I am 23, 165 5'8 bulky smooth muscle probably 10% body fat
I have been lifting for 2 years very dedicated, barely drank, no drugs, gym ATLEAST 4 times a week, and cardio atleast 3 times a week for 20 mins everytime I eat like a horse, atleast 160grams of protein a day, I have decent cuts, and I don't look skinny, lol just my legs a little bit,

This is my first cycle and I know you guys are just gonna say 500mg of TEST E once a week for 10 weeks lol, but I don't want very very obvious gains, and I want minimum water retentation, although u guys are gonna suggest me not to use dbol, and deca, but i read with the right dieting u can use them, like any other anabolic steroid to cut

I already have these and I plan on using them

weeks 1-4 dbol pyramided max 30mg a day, starting 5 days, 10mg a day
weeks 1-10 250mg Deca shot once a week
weeks 4-10 250 sus shot once a week

I am DEFINETLY taking NOLVADEX but a little shady with the correct usage
I am thinking weeks 13-15?? 20mg a day??? I am not to sure what do you guys suggest for me with the nolvadex

I plan On dieting religously to cut

PLEASE COMMENT and RIP ME APART IF I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG!
YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW YOUR SHIT and I CONSIDER EVERYTHING YOU GUYS SAY, THANKS

get some more test, 4 more amps will do or you could run it a 1/2 a ml(125mg) ew just for sex drive and well bieng start the dbol @20mg ed for the first week then go up to 30mg ed if you feel you need to for the next 3 weeks
!get some hcg! just a few hundred ius makes you feel a whole lot better come pct time
with youre diet and training you should gain well
good luck

 

[BOWTECH]

 

[bigcountry61]

This is the cycle you should be considering for your first run:
1-10or12 - test 500mgs/EW
1-4 - dbol 30mgs/ED of tbol 40mgs/ED
(run armidex at .5mgs through-out)

What he said sounds good.

I would run test e for 12 weeks @ 500 mgs a week ( 2shots a week )
1-4 weeks d-bol 30 mgs a day
1-12 weeks a-dex .5 mgs ed

DONT FORGET PCT !!!!!

 

[shrimp44]

Nolvadex or HCG?, exactly what is Hcg?

 

[black sheep]

If you don't want fast and obvious gains you can forget all those other items you have and run Primo at 600mg/week for 10 week.

You'll gain around 10lbs of slow, steady, LBM.

You could also do just test(sust) at 375mg/week (1.5cc) and add in .5mg of Arimidex EOD to keep the water away. Gains are going to depend on diet, training, and sleep more than the gear anyway.

I would drop the dbol and deca idea

 

[Goldprospector]

ehh too late, i already ordered the deca, i might just not take it, but i only have 6 amulets of sus at 250mg a piece, thats why i was gonna use the deca, well I was gonna eat around 6-7 meals a day goal was 300g carbs and 200g protein with brown rice, oatmeal, chicken, tuna, steak, protein shakes eggs

Just hold the deca and use it later

 

[shrimp44]

This is what I am gonna order
http://www.ag-guys.com/store/product.php?productid=16135&cat=248
So I have to take .5 of this every day for the whole time i am cycling (10 weeks) by mouth?

 

[Bozwell]

yes and yes