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ALIN
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The right type of guy could do this. It would take a little brains but very possible.
Alot of work but if its worth the reward to you...
Alot of work but if its worth the reward to you...
Blissfam10
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Been searching the web to find a guide for it but no luck. don't want to order the kit and not know how to use it.
rutman
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I know what you mean. Probably the best way to find out how to use it is to contact the seller of the kits I guess. Hopefully somebody will figure out how to use it.
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Blissfam10
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Yeah that's what I did just waiting for an email. Sucks why couldn't they just leave shit how it was bastards.
Sgtjmc33
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Yes this topic is right up my ally. I started fooling around with finaplex a while back for my dads cattle. Fina is too expensive now to fool with. I've seen the conversions for other types with estridol however none for the Revalor. Has to be someone somewhere or a guide already posted. Can anyone elaborate?
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ALIN
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There used to be some well detailed instructions on how to remove the estradiol from the Synovex but it seems
like all this info has vanished into thin air. Try to google it.
Blissfam10
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Few kit makers are working on instruction DVDs might as well wait. Only been like 2 weeks since fina went bye bye and all ready have kits made for the Revalor 200 so looks like it shouldn't be long.
There are basically two methods to remove the estrogen....with lye, or re-crystalization to force the estrogen out. I have the process noted and was about to try it with Synovex(same should apply to Revalor). Its long, but here it is....
Synovex conversión
[FONT="]The SYNO conversion:
Supplies Needed:
Start with 2 carts then once you have it down you can do more. Trust me on this I don’t do more than 4 after MANY conversions.
A couple of 600ml Bomex beakers/ or coffee pots and Pyrex measuring cups of equal volume will suffice. MUST HAVE A POUR SPOUT ON THE FRONT and the ability to determine how much fluid is in the container.
2 Bottles of HEET. Methanol, yellow and blue bottles.
Coffee filters, cup not cone, big ones.
Paper clips or clothespins, have many on hand just incase.
2 gallons distilled water. Keep in refrigerator at while not using so it’s always cool.
Cottage cheese or margarine container thoroughly cleaned with a safety pin hole in the bottom. This must allow the distilled water to drip not pour in. Test it before you use it. It must be able to hold 500ml distilled water.
A bowl and some paper towels.
Preferably you will also have a desk lamp that will radiate a lot of heat.
1. 2 carts syno pellets in a 600ml Bomex glass beaker. Use a paperclip to push the pellets out.
2. Crush the pellets into a powder. (Doesn’t have to be perfect, this is just to make it dissolve faster)
3. Add roughly 100ml -150ml methanol. (HEET) Yellow and blue bottle.
4. Cover top. Swirl around from time to time until all residual pellet fragments are dissolved. This will not be clear there will be powder in the heet. You know it’s done because the larger fragments are dissolved.
5. Fasten a coffee filter to another flask or coffee pot, ( what I use sometimes) Fasten with clothespins or paper clips. Make sure you use something with a pour spout like a coffee pot or beaker. Make sure you can easily unfasten the paperclips or whatever from the front pour spout area in order to drain the fluid.
6. Pour the dissolved solution through the coffee filter. This gets out the binders and fillers. There should be some white residue left in the filter. Filter times vary depending on filters. Use cup filters not cone.
7. While filtering wash the 600ml Bomex beaker or the like. Again make sure it has a pour spout. Pyrex measuring cups work as well. DRY the beaker totally.
8. Remove the coffee filter with the binders and throw it away
9. Pour the syno methanol solution into the clean, dry 600ml beaker.
10. Place the cottage cheese container on top, fill with roughly 350ml-400ml distilled water and put the whole contraption in the freezer. The water should be dripping slowly into the beaker. Make sure to keep an eye on it. Takes maybe 15 min.
11. Once the water reaches the 450ml or so mark remove it from the freezer and stop the drip. On the 2-3-4th batches you’ll have a lower level as you’ll use less methanol so your total volume after adding distilled water will be more like 350-400ml.
12. After cleaning the Beaker or whatever you used previously, fasten another coffee filter to the rim. Be sure it can take 500ml+ and make sure the filter is on tight. This is where your PROP is.
13. Slowly pour the solution into the filter. Big filters work better for me because they are easier to attach and to deal with in general. You don’t want to have to remove the filter with the prop crystals in it and have it spill all over you sink or carpet. Let it filter through you may need to kind of scrape the bottom of the beaker to get all the crystals out. You can use an additional 100ml or so distilled water to rinse the beaker out and add to the filtrate. DISTILLED WATER ONLY HERE.
14. Take the Filter after it has drained and there is a white mushy/chalky powder remaining. Get a bowl and put a few paper towels in the bottom to absorb fluid. Put the coffee filter in the bowl on top of the paper towels, additional fluid will begin to be absorbed into the paper towels. I like to set up a desk lamp with a bright light and put it over the bowl very close to the powder, NOT ON. LOL and Not in the bloody oven for *&%$ sake unless you want to ruin everything. You will need to let everything dry 100% this is very important. After a few min replace the paper towels on bottom, eventually remove them so everything can dry.You’ll need to use something to scrape the powder off the filter and chop it up a bit into a finer and finer powder until it’s dry. If you let it sit alone it can take days to dry. If you use a lamp or something you can do it in a few hours thus reducing the whole process time by several days.
Now repeat 3 more times. Everything the same except reduce the amount of methanol to only as much as is needed to dissolve the powder completely. This time around you should not see any powder like the first time as we already removed the fillers. So once dissolved the solution should be ALMOST clear but not like pure water. If you have pieces that won’t dissolve, you didn’t let the powder dry and you’re a Weenie. You’ll be fine just keep on with it as planned and be sure to dry it better next round.
15. After the 4th re-crystallization leave the filtrate in the filter still attached to the contraption you were using to drain your fluid into.Undo the front and pour the fluid out being careful not to spill your prop crystals.
Rinse the crystals with 1 gallon Distilled water. Do this by slowly pouring water into the filter where your prop crystals are. I use a spray bottle to keep everything moving and to keep things off the sides. RINSE ALOT. You will have to Pour the water out of the beaker many times before your done, this is why I said to make sure you can easily remove the fixture.
NOW DRY
After you have dried it for the fourth time make sure it’s dry this time, don’t be a weenie. It will screw everything up. Must be dry.
16. From here, weigh your powder to be sure what you’ve got. You’ll have from 2 carts between 2-3.5 grams probably depending on how anal you were. Remember we would rather have 2 grams of PROP than 3.5 grams of Prop and Estradiol.
When converting your crystals into an injectable, for the first few times you MAY want to heat the powder in oil only. NO BB or BA until after and using a different filter. Depending on how you’re going to filter, syringe filter or stericup vac system you will want to filter the warm oil and prop only. Then, using another filter add BA and BB. The reason for this is the estradiol is only very slightly soluble in oil and therefore will be trapped by the filter if you had any remaining. If you added the BA and BB it will make the estradiol soluble. If you have done 4 re-crystallizations you should have little or no Estradiol left anyways but at first I did this as a precaution. I no longer do this but if you’re concerned, this will 100% eradicate any residual Estradiol. If you use stericup vacuum setup you will need 1x 22um syringe filter for the BA/BB. Again this is not really necessary.
I have done it both ways and my recent batches I have been mixing BA/BB and oil with prop and filtering all at once. I’m currently running this at 150 EOD, 6 weeks in, No issues for me or my training partner who’s using 2x my amount. Once you’ve done the conversion a few times you will get better and better. Your yield will be higher and your confidence in the end product will be absolute.
I decided to add this as an afterthought. It would seem that there is a lot of confusion surrounding this conversion. Many people have been led to believe that you need an estrogen remover when in fact you do not. The process I have outlined will leave you with a very clean product with 0 estradiol if done as outlined. I have been running it for quite some time now at doses up to 150mg a day with no bra needed. I also know personally several people using the exact same process. No complications, No tits. So basically what I’m trying to say is, if you do this you will be 100% successful. [/FONT][FONT="]No estro solubulizer needed.[/FONT]
Synovex conversión
[FONT="]The SYNO conversion:
Supplies Needed:
Start with 2 carts then once you have it down you can do more. Trust me on this I don’t do more than 4 after MANY conversions.
A couple of 600ml Bomex beakers/ or coffee pots and Pyrex measuring cups of equal volume will suffice. MUST HAVE A POUR SPOUT ON THE FRONT and the ability to determine how much fluid is in the container.
2 Bottles of HEET. Methanol, yellow and blue bottles.
Coffee filters, cup not cone, big ones.
Paper clips or clothespins, have many on hand just incase.
2 gallons distilled water. Keep in refrigerator at while not using so it’s always cool.
Cottage cheese or margarine container thoroughly cleaned with a safety pin hole in the bottom. This must allow the distilled water to drip not pour in. Test it before you use it. It must be able to hold 500ml distilled water.
A bowl and some paper towels.
Preferably you will also have a desk lamp that will radiate a lot of heat.
1. 2 carts syno pellets in a 600ml Bomex glass beaker. Use a paperclip to push the pellets out.
2. Crush the pellets into a powder. (Doesn’t have to be perfect, this is just to make it dissolve faster)
3. Add roughly 100ml -150ml methanol. (HEET) Yellow and blue bottle.
4. Cover top. Swirl around from time to time until all residual pellet fragments are dissolved. This will not be clear there will be powder in the heet. You know it’s done because the larger fragments are dissolved.
5. Fasten a coffee filter to another flask or coffee pot, ( what I use sometimes) Fasten with clothespins or paper clips. Make sure you use something with a pour spout like a coffee pot or beaker. Make sure you can easily unfasten the paperclips or whatever from the front pour spout area in order to drain the fluid.
6. Pour the dissolved solution through the coffee filter. This gets out the binders and fillers. There should be some white residue left in the filter. Filter times vary depending on filters. Use cup filters not cone.
7. While filtering wash the 600ml Bomex beaker or the like. Again make sure it has a pour spout. Pyrex measuring cups work as well. DRY the beaker totally.
8. Remove the coffee filter with the binders and throw it away
9. Pour the syno methanol solution into the clean, dry 600ml beaker.
10. Place the cottage cheese container on top, fill with roughly 350ml-400ml distilled water and put the whole contraption in the freezer. The water should be dripping slowly into the beaker. Make sure to keep an eye on it. Takes maybe 15 min.
11. Once the water reaches the 450ml or so mark remove it from the freezer and stop the drip. On the 2-3-4th batches you’ll have a lower level as you’ll use less methanol so your total volume after adding distilled water will be more like 350-400ml.
12. After cleaning the Beaker or whatever you used previously, fasten another coffee filter to the rim. Be sure it can take 500ml+ and make sure the filter is on tight. This is where your PROP is.
13. Slowly pour the solution into the filter. Big filters work better for me because they are easier to attach and to deal with in general. You don’t want to have to remove the filter with the prop crystals in it and have it spill all over you sink or carpet. Let it filter through you may need to kind of scrape the bottom of the beaker to get all the crystals out. You can use an additional 100ml or so distilled water to rinse the beaker out and add to the filtrate. DISTILLED WATER ONLY HERE.
14. Take the Filter after it has drained and there is a white mushy/chalky powder remaining. Get a bowl and put a few paper towels in the bottom to absorb fluid. Put the coffee filter in the bowl on top of the paper towels, additional fluid will begin to be absorbed into the paper towels. I like to set up a desk lamp with a bright light and put it over the bowl very close to the powder, NOT ON. LOL and Not in the bloody oven for *&%$ sake unless you want to ruin everything. You will need to let everything dry 100% this is very important. After a few min replace the paper towels on bottom, eventually remove them so everything can dry.You’ll need to use something to scrape the powder off the filter and chop it up a bit into a finer and finer powder until it’s dry. If you let it sit alone it can take days to dry. If you use a lamp or something you can do it in a few hours thus reducing the whole process time by several days.
Now repeat 3 more times. Everything the same except reduce the amount of methanol to only as much as is needed to dissolve the powder completely. This time around you should not see any powder like the first time as we already removed the fillers. So once dissolved the solution should be ALMOST clear but not like pure water. If you have pieces that won’t dissolve, you didn’t let the powder dry and you’re a Weenie. You’ll be fine just keep on with it as planned and be sure to dry it better next round.
15. After the 4th re-crystallization leave the filtrate in the filter still attached to the contraption you were using to drain your fluid into.Undo the front and pour the fluid out being careful not to spill your prop crystals.
Rinse the crystals with 1 gallon Distilled water. Do this by slowly pouring water into the filter where your prop crystals are. I use a spray bottle to keep everything moving and to keep things off the sides. RINSE ALOT. You will have to Pour the water out of the beaker many times before your done, this is why I said to make sure you can easily remove the fixture.
NOW DRY
After you have dried it for the fourth time make sure it’s dry this time, don’t be a weenie. It will screw everything up. Must be dry.
16. From here, weigh your powder to be sure what you’ve got. You’ll have from 2 carts between 2-3.5 grams probably depending on how anal you were. Remember we would rather have 2 grams of PROP than 3.5 grams of Prop and Estradiol.
When converting your crystals into an injectable, for the first few times you MAY want to heat the powder in oil only. NO BB or BA until after and using a different filter. Depending on how you’re going to filter, syringe filter or stericup vac system you will want to filter the warm oil and prop only. Then, using another filter add BA and BB. The reason for this is the estradiol is only very slightly soluble in oil and therefore will be trapped by the filter if you had any remaining. If you added the BA and BB it will make the estradiol soluble. If you have done 4 re-crystallizations you should have little or no Estradiol left anyways but at first I did this as a precaution. I no longer do this but if you’re concerned, this will 100% eradicate any residual Estradiol. If you use stericup vacuum setup you will need 1x 22um syringe filter for the BA/BB. Again this is not really necessary.
I have done it both ways and my recent batches I have been mixing BA/BB and oil with prop and filtering all at once. I’m currently running this at 150 EOD, 6 weeks in, No issues for me or my training partner who’s using 2x my amount. Once you’ve done the conversion a few times you will get better and better. Your yield will be higher and your confidence in the end product will be absolute.
I decided to add this as an afterthought. It would seem that there is a lot of confusion surrounding this conversion. Many people have been led to believe that you need an estrogen remover when in fact you do not. The process I have outlined will leave you with a very clean product with 0 estradiol if done as outlined. I have been running it for quite some time now at doses up to 150mg a day with no bra needed. I also know personally several people using the exact same process. No complications, No tits. So basically what I’m trying to say is, if you do this you will be 100% successful. [/FONT][FONT="]No estro solubulizer needed.[/FONT]
biggunzz20
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I've done it and its very simple just like the old synovex kits.
Simply use Heet to disolve the pellets
After dissolving add 500ml distilled water to the heet in a glass bowl
this will turn milky white.
add 5 ml estrogen solubilizer and stand for an hour.
After 1 hour pour the white milky through surgical mask (I use 3 sitting on a glass in the sing
The powder will stay behind in the mask.
the most important part is washing out all estrogen with a gallon of distilled water.
Keep pouring the water slowly through the mask of powder until only pure water comes out the bottom (it will be whiteish at first
After washing with a gallon let the powder from the mask sit in an over overnight to dry no warmer than 150 degrees. (I put it on a cookie pan on top of foil)
The next day after powder is dry its same as regular fina kit.
Simply add powder to BA/BB dissolving
add the oil and filter in vial.
Its very easy and takes two days instead of one. Dazed started this years ago with synovex. If you use a good estrogen solubilizer and wash correctly 99% of the bad estrogen will be gone. It's not hard to do. There are 100's of post on converting synovex, and i wouldnt use the crystal method as its a little too hard for begginners. I would also only use professional grade estrogen solubilizer from a Kit company as mixing the NOAH is tricky and too much water makes it weak. My personal favorite Kt company has always made great estrogen solubilizer and after years of synovex, I remain titless! It's very simple, just try a batch and take your time. I doubt any Kit company will be stupid enough to make a dvd as that would be very illegal and risk everyones freedoms.
Simply use Heet to disolve the pellets
After dissolving add 500ml distilled water to the heet in a glass bowl
this will turn milky white.
add 5 ml estrogen solubilizer and stand for an hour.
After 1 hour pour the white milky through surgical mask (I use 3 sitting on a glass in the sing
The powder will stay behind in the mask.
the most important part is washing out all estrogen with a gallon of distilled water.
Keep pouring the water slowly through the mask of powder until only pure water comes out the bottom (it will be whiteish at first
After washing with a gallon let the powder from the mask sit in an over overnight to dry no warmer than 150 degrees. (I put it on a cookie pan on top of foil)
The next day after powder is dry its same as regular fina kit.
Simply add powder to BA/BB dissolving
add the oil and filter in vial.
Its very easy and takes two days instead of one. Dazed started this years ago with synovex. If you use a good estrogen solubilizer and wash correctly 99% of the bad estrogen will be gone. It's not hard to do. There are 100's of post on converting synovex, and i wouldnt use the crystal method as its a little too hard for begginners. I would also only use professional grade estrogen solubilizer from a Kit company as mixing the NOAH is tricky and too much water makes it weak. My personal favorite Kt company has always made great estrogen solubilizer and after years of synovex, I remain titless! It's very simple, just try a batch and take your time. I doubt any Kit company will be stupid enough to make a dvd as that would be very illegal and risk everyones freedoms.
Good points. I had just opted for this method because....1. I did not have easy access to an estrogen solubilizer. 2. I was not a fan of using NOAH for various reasons. 3. I had used the crystalization method many times with Fina and it seems more accurate since you can weigh your powder to determine true yield. Sad I never got to try because Synovex disappeared
The good news is that there are option for getting rid if the estrogen from Revalor...the bad news is how long until Revalor is gone also? That will suck. I personally ordered 50 grams of tren ace powder to be on the safe side.
Blissfam10
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I have read that they made the Revalor 200 so when you try to strip the estro from it it will just turn to goop.. Anyone heard anything about this as well?
I ordered a kit and it came with no instructions at all. Emailed twice and called once and left a message , but no response. I'm not getting a warm feeling over the whole deal. $70 for a kit that I could buy the components for about $25. What I really thought i was buying was the info on how to apply this kit and come out with a usable product. Poor service from this supplier is what I got. Am I wrong to feel upset?
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ALIN
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I'm doubting it cam 100% be removed but you can get most of it.
Blissfam10
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I would be pissed to who did you get the kit from?
What happens is the glues and binders are fully miscable in methanol. You have to dissolve the pellets and act like your doing a recrystalization before you add the NaOh. The glues will come out of solution first since there is so much more of it than the desired hormone. Then filter this quickly and continue with the process of getting crystals. Then dissolve the resulting crystals in methanol and add your NaOh to cleave the estradiol ester and salt it out. On my first attempt I got 1.5 g of goods on 1 cart which would be a 75% rate. Not great but acceptable. Sprung for a kit to get a different perspective , but no dice yet. View attachment 77653trenView attachment 77663glue
rutman
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This is what I was looking for in this thread. Probably by law they can't say "this is how to covert it". But it looks like one should be able to contact them for instructions. Keep calling until you find out what the deal is.
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Blissfam10
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Anyone find some info yet?
Got an email that directed me to a page where they want to sell me filters heet and containers along with the instructions for $60 more..... not a chance. What I should do is send the kit back. I've got it figured out, just wanted some reinforcement or possibly a better way to extract it out. I'm getting a 75% conversion and while it's not the 85-90% with finaplix crystallization , it'll do. Next cycle starts in 1 month , got it covered with no help other than Basskiller in another thread. I love this forum.
Blissfam10
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http://www.monsteraroma.com/NEW-Extraction-Instructions-Revalor-200_c_15.html yeah just got this link emailed to me going to give it a try just 4 gram kit and see how it goes. After I use my last box of Finaplix of course lol
Blissfam10
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Just checking to see if anyone has tried the Revalor kits yet?
Blissfam10
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Bump
Went ahead and got the DVD. Don't waste your money. The " video" is a PDF file that shows a syno conversion. Well sort of. No real conversion takes place , just empty containers and a walk through. When it said to filter your solution to remove the binders, I knew they had never converted a single revalor cart. If you've ever dissolved revalor then you know the binders dissolve along with the hormones. I decided to give them the benifit of the doubt, but I split my mixture in half so if the process described didn't work, I would not have wasted everything. I'm glad I did. " Video" process= a sticky mess. Oh yeah, the dissolving solution they send is racing methanol that obviously has top lube in it. It turned to milk when a distilled water drip was applied. Pure methanol will not cloud at all when pure water is added. All in all, I am not one bit happy with the kit or extraction instructions I recieved.
Blissfam10
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So is there any real way to convert the Revalor kits
6150
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That would be useful info bro
Blissfam10
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That would be great will for sure keep an eye out for it.
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abcprod123
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Hi everybody -
I'm a producer with ABC World News, and we're working on a story about EPO use.
We're looking for people who would be willing to do a phone interview for the show this week.
If you know anybody who might be interested in talking to us, please let me know. You can message me at this account.
Thanks!
I'm a producer with ABC World News, and we're working on a story about EPO use.
We're looking for people who would be willing to do a phone interview for the show this week.
If you know anybody who might be interested in talking to us, please let me know. You can message me at this account.
Thanks!
Blissfam10
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Wtf someone ban this guy
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semper03
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Banned camp son
Blissfam10
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So are there still no real kits out there?
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Blissfam10
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Lol I will if it comes down to it and I can't find a good powder source. What whould be the best anti e to use since you would be shooting estrogen into your body or would it even make a difference?
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I wouldn't. Women on estrogen replacement are taking 2 mg. PO qD for 3 weeks followed by a week off. If your at a low dose of tren , say 50mg qD, that translates to 5 mg of estradiol. Your gonna float with all that bloat! I'll get that recipe out soon. It's a long process , but easy to convert.
BODYBUILDINGOLOGY
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Good points. I had just opted for this method because....1. I did not have easy access to an estrogen solubilizer. 2. I was not a fan of using NOAH for various reasons. 3. I had used the crystalization method many times with Fina and it seems more accurate since you can weigh your powder to determine true yield. Sad I never got to try because Synovex disappeared
The good news is that there are option for getting rid if the estrogen from Revalor...the bad news is how long until Revalor is gone also? That will suck. I personally ordered 50 grams of tren ace powder to be on the safe side.
NaOH is the estrogen solubilizer that was in most kits
The Big Apple
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Can anyone help with locating a kit to convert Revalor 200...I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction.
TY!
TY!
Did you use this method with Revalor 200? I understand this method to work with Syno. Just curious to understand if you used it with revalo 200 and how you liked you results.
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