Reuters - There is little evidence to suggest that using anabolic steroids...

[goofball]

It's just worded poorly. All it means is that juice alone won't produce gains, you still have to train right and eat enough.

It you take a shitload and just sit on the couch, it's not going to do you any good.

 

[Spidey]

Here's one of the studies, It's not the specific one I was talking about. They used test cyp and deca for 3 weeks

J Appl Physiol 1983 Feb;54(2):366-70 (ISSN: 0161-7567)
Crist DM; Stackpole PJ; Peake GT

The effects of androgenic-anabolic steroids on neuromuscular power and body composition were studied in
nine volunteers experienced with progressive-resistance weight training. By use of double-blind procedures,
testosterone cypionate, nandrolone decanoate, and sesame oil (placebo) were administered in a
repeated-measures design that counterbalanced treatment order. Duration of each treatment condition was 3 wk.
Supplemental protein was provided, and dietary records were maintained throughout the study. Subjects were
trained with progressive-resistance weight-training exercises. Isokinetic dynamometer testing revealed that peak
torque output was not significantly changed between treatments in 7 out of 10 isolated-joint actions. The hydrostatic
weighing results revealed insignificant differences in lean body mass and percent body fat. Significant changes in
some treatment means of three peak torque output tests were insufficient to identify any consistent treatment
alterations. Since protein and caloric intake was sufficient to elicit anabolic effects from the steroid treatments and
weight-training program, the lack of significant results could not be attributed to dietary considerations. Subjects
reported subjective feelings of increased strength after administration of anabolic agents, which may partially
account for their widespread use. In conclusion, anabolic steroids did not substantially change body composition
or the objective power measurements used in this study.

Of course, one major flaw I see right away in this study was the unreasonablly short duration. Three weeks?? Both test cyp and deca don't even kick in until 3 or 4 weeks due to their long release kinetics. A neccessary control (which they apparently didn't do) in a study such as this is a measurement of release kinetics under physiological conditions. Also, I did not see any dosages listed.

 

[R77M]

You mean the anti-american, angry left, liberal news agency whose editor coined the phrase, "one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter"?

Ninety percent of that orginizations reporting is horse shit! This article is a case in point. If you were to do a search on the Reuter home page you will find inaccuracy after inaccuracy in conjuction with extreme bias regardless of the subject. What they provide is by no means fair and balanced journalism.

 

[DeepZenPill]

Exactly my point. But evaluation of studies is rarely executed. I'd say 98% of the studies posted on this very board are so flimsy, they're essentially worthless yet they're presented as fact.

73% of statistics are made up on the spot.

 

[princeton]

73% of statistics are made up on the spot.

thats funny