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Results from my 3 weeks cycle !

manny78

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So as some of you knew, I tried the 3 weeks cycle idea recently. With some advices from Nelson Montana and others I decided to do this:

Week 1 Test prop 100mg ED and anavar BTG 30 mg ED

Week 2 Test prop 100mg ED and Anavar (paperVar) 20 mg ED

Week 3 Test prop 50mg ED and anavar (papervar) 10 mg ED and some Fat burners NHF RipperXP (mild fat burner).

No anti-Es even if I had some Femara with me.

Ran R-ALA at 600 mg ED, with milk thistle. Also Flax seed oil a lot.

Creatine at 20 g for 3 weeks then 10 g post cycle.

Post cycle: No clomids. Just Maca.

Had my blood checked and according to my doc (he knows I'm juicing), everything is fine, back to normal.

Sides: Well my BP slightly increased but things went back to normal soon.
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Diet: Basically 4000 calories, 250-350g of protein, carbs less than 100g. 50% of my protein intake came from "real food" (tuna, salmon and chicken mostly) and 50% from shakes/protein bars.

Training: 6 days a week. I was off on sundays only. every body part was hit twice a week.

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Started at 210 lbs, 8% bf (6'). And now I'm at 216 lbs, stuck at 8%BF. Strenght obviously increased. I would guess a good 20% DUring week 3 I reached 219 lbs.

Now for those wondering about PaperVar, I must say it works. I wanted to run BTG first and then paper so I could tell the difference. Well I couldn't. I guess paper is a bit overdosed so it must explain why.

I used to run heavier cycles (this was actually my 5th cycle I think) but since I tried this one I dont see any benefits being on for a longer period.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Nice results!And now you've got me all psyched up to run some more papervar,lol.
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Maybe if it can help poeple out: keep your paper at least a good 15 minutes sublingual, then you can swallow it.
 
naturally anabolic said:
so then you think these shorter cycles are as good as a long one? you were able to keep everything with just the maca?
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I lost 3 lbs. But considering the final result I think it was worth the try. Suppression was probably not as hard as it sued to be with my previous cycles.
 
Cool- thanks for posting your results... did you feel like you had any delay in recovery w/out clomid?
 
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Lift Chief said:
Cool- thanks for posting your results... did you feel like you had any delay in recovery w/out clomid?
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No. But I must admit that I was unsure about using clomids or not till the last injection. DOing test without clomids after was something new for me.
 
manny78 said:


No. But I must admit that I was unsure about using clomids or not till the last injection. DOing test without clomids after was something new for me.
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In your experience with this cycle would you have felt like it was still a good cycle stopping at 2 instead of 3 weeks?

Because by 3 weeks you've already dipped into the deeper stages of inhibition most say- did you feel like this at all?
 
Lift Chief said:


In your experience with this cycle would you have felt like it was still a good cycle stopping at 2 instead of 3 weeks?

Because by 3 weeks you've already dipped into the deeper stages of inhibition most say- did you feel like this at all?
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Would still have been a good cycle but doing a 3rd week gave me probably 2 lbs more. My 3rd was only a "transition" to my post-cycle. Thats how I see it.
 
How quickly do you feel that you recovered your natural test?

You live in Montreal? I LOVE Montreal! I taught at a seminar there last Summer, have visted there a lot, you are truly in one of the cities with some of the world's most beautiful women.
 
Themachine01 said:
so how much weight did you end up keeping, 3lbs?
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He said-
Started at 210 lbs, 8% bf (6'). And now I'm at 216 lbs, stuck at 8%BF. Strenght obviously increased. I would guess a good 20% DUring week 3 I reached 219 lbs.

Looks like he gained 9 then lost 3 of that to net gain of 6.
 
Manny, good to hear you had some success with your 3 weeker. I am on a 3 weeker right now of Tren 75ed/Prop50ed/ Primo 100 eod for days 1-14/ and 75 mg of winny per day. I am in week two. I started out at 224 at about 10-12%... yesterday I was 228, but my waist is about an inch or two smaller (I can tell by how my belt is fitting me).

I am eating about 2800 calories a day (350g of Protein, 200-250-carbs, 50-60 grams of fat). Obviously I am looking to lean out while preserving muscle. The four pounds is a nice surprise. My goal is to get to 6-7% ... after finishing on March 1st I will probably cycle another three weeker at the beginning of May. It is nice to only have 6-8 weeks to wait fro your next growth cycle.... instead of 5-6 months.
 
The_Eviscerator said:
Manny, good to hear you had some success with your 3 weeker. I am on a 3 weeker right now of Tren 75ed/Prop50ed/ Primo 100 eod for days 1-14/ and 75 mg of winny per day. I am in week two. I started out at 224 at about 10-12%... yesterday I was 228, but my waist is about an inch or two smaller (I can tell by how my belt is fitting me).

I am eating about 2800 calories a day (350g of Protein, 200-250-carbs, 50-60 grams of fat). Obviously I am looking to lean out while preserving muscle. The four pounds is a nice surprise. My goal is to get to 6-7% ... after finishing on March 1st I will probably cycle another three weeker at the beginning of May. It is nice to only have 6-8 weeks to wait fro your next growth cycle.... instead of 5-6 months.
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I was thinking about Fina for this cycle but I'll keep it for my next. Dunno yet, or maybe Parabolan if QV finally release it.
 
powerforward said:
manny, how long before you go back on? what kind of breaks are recomended for shorter cycles?
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I'll probably wait 6 weeks. Then have my values checked again and if everything is ok will do another one.
 
so your looking at 9 week total cycles(time on/recovery/time off) and then continuing the year? at 6 pounds of lbm per 9 weeks, sound like a good way to put on 20lbs without a lot of sides. does anyone have any year long results doing it this way?
 
Manny,

How old are you?

How long after the cycle ended do you think it took to get your natural Test back on-line?
 
Riker29 said:
Manny,

How old are you?

How long after the cycle ended do you think it took to get your natural Test back on-line?
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I'm 24. It took maybe two weeks. Well according to my doc, my values were about the same as before. Just like if I had never cycled.
 
nice results manny!

last week i was thinking about a var/test 3 week cycle and now that i read this i will do it.
i get my prescription yesterday i sent it to a lab.

it will be 30-40mg anavar ED and 500mg sust per week.

negaun
 
What can I say? The 3 week plan works so well I don't know why everyone wouldn't want to use it. I guess some guys are addicted to "being on" while others start getting anxiety worrying about all the side effects that increase with every day.

Also, people don't realize that a solid 6 pound gain is fucking awesome! (Think of 24 quarter pound hamburgers stuck together on your body!) That would take most people up to a year to gain naturally -- if they were lucky. The argument is that more gear and longer cycles will yield greater gains but it's not true. You can't hold on to much more muscle than 5-10 pounds once you come off.

I would take AT LEAST 6 weeks off to solidify the gains. (That's 6 weeks once levels normalize, not after your last shot) And I don't believe fina is a good choice for this plan because of its suppressive qualities. Adding Avena Sativa post cycle would also be a good idea and Xanthoparmilia is as good as Cialis if ED is a problem. And for those who are SUPER SENSITIVE to gyno, some proviron should be kept handy. Because, as everyone will someday come to realize -- clomid blows!

Congrats to manny on a successful cycle.
 
i would definately try a three week cycle but it sounds expensive. i havent read all the post on them but the ones that i read included prop and primo, winny or var. would a three week cycle with prop alone be beneficial? im aware that you can add fina, dbol, abombs or the short acting nandrolone (forgot the name) but would prop or suspension alone give you good results?
 
DepressiveJuice said:
i would definately try a three week cycle but it sounds expensive. i havent read all the post on them but the ones that i read included prop and primo, winny or var. would a three week cycle with prop alone be beneficial? im aware that you can add fina, dbol, abombs or the short acting nandrolone (forgot the name) but would prop or suspension alone give you good results?
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I doubt. Maybe some lbs but definitely not the same results. If you have to do it. Do it the right way. The nandrolone you're refering to is Durabolin (phenylproprionate).

Prop/dbols would not be so expensive, just add some proviron like Nelson said.
 
Dial_tone said:
I hate daily shots so my own 3-weeker would 'probably' be

100mg Prop EOD
150mg Fina EOD
25mg Dbol ED or 30mg Anavar ED
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Sounds good to. That's another way to see things !
 
One thing to keep in mind with the 3 weeker (well, at least my 3 week Steroids For Health plan) is there's a specific reason for the combiation of orals and injectables. People have tried to adjust the plan to their liking to the pont where it's just a bad short cycle and then they complain about the results - either they didn't grow or experienced side effects. The anabolic/androgenic balance must be correct.
 
i see. so doing the prop and dbol without the proviron is a waste then? is fina more anabolic or androgenic? im thinking of doing prop and fina instead. i do have (and love) proviron but i prefer to use that post cycle
 
very good results bro. makes me wanna give a 3 weeker a shot.

congrats
 
WOULD THIS WORK

I was tryin to think of a short cycle, that dont require daily inject, it sucks.

would it be veryy effective to maybe front load with around 1500mgs of sus on day 1, then take dbol at maybe 50mgs a day throughout.

just a thought
 
Nelson (and any other who has an oppinion on this!!):
You advocate the use of milder AS such as Primobolan. I completely agree with you in this. But the question is, if you also think 3 week cycles are the best to minimize side effects, how do you fit a steroid such as Primo, which is mild and has an active life of 10-14 days into the equation?
I want the minimum sides from my first cycle, but I also want to see some results. I thought only faster acting and more potent AS (such as test prop, tren..) would be adequate for this purpose. So which type of steroids do you reccomend for this purpose (and gain some LBM) Can anyone shed some light on this?
Thanks!!:)
By the way Manny, thanks for bumpin this up!
 
I agree that unless very short half-life drugs are used, the cycle is not three weeks, it is more like 6 weeks. Must stick with the fast acting and orals to exit quickly.
Also, three weeks of staying clean AFTER 3 weeks of post-therapy is not enough to bring exogenous test levels back to normal. With a AS like Dianabol, natural test production drops to less than 20% in 4 days of use (I am recalling this from memory - the 20% may actually be a bit different, but you get the idea)!
i.e. 3 weeks may not be a hard shut down, but it is a SHUT DOWN of natty test. So here is what is probably more realistic, even with a short cycle:

3 weeks ON

1 - 3 weeks wind-down, this could be as short as a week using fast acting AS´s

3 weeks post cycle-therapy

8 weeks clean to expect to get back natty test levels to a safe level.

SO we are really talking about a total period of 15 to 17 weeks before starting another cycle (3 1-2 months from start to start between cycles). That is still max. of 4 cycles per year.

I can appreciate the merits of reducing the hard shut-down with a shorter cycle, but the ON time vs. OFF time does not seem to be very efficient. I think 3 longer cycles each year of 8 weeks is more beneficial than 4 cycles of 3 weeks.

In argument for the short cycle, I agree with the remark by Montana that the 5 lbs. is realisically the limit of growth per cycle, after being totally clean (not a month, but 3 months - everyone with experience knows that month three is the killer, that is why we want to jump on the juice again so quickly), so maybe there is value in the shorty cycle, with 4 cycles per year.
 
I think the meaning of "3 weeks" is getting a bit confused.

The whole purpose here is to select and use things which CLEAR the system in like 3 weeks.

So, stuff like Ethanate or Sustanon are just about out (not worth using). Unles you take 1 shot and .... thats it! (It takes these a good 3 weeks to clean out of the system, or to drop low enough so that you CAN start to bring natural test back online).

And like DECA or EQ? Nope.

You select quick acting substances which clear quickly, and stop then in a manner which has them clear the system by the end of 3 weeks. For example, lets say you use Prop and Tren. My understanding is that you use them for maybe 18 days, then STOP taking them, then allowing a good 3-4 days for the levels for these to drop, THEN after 21 days you are DONE, and can start a post-cycle regimen (i.e clomid or Novaldex).

My understanding is that THAT is the way to do it.
 
Riker29 said:
I think the meaning of "3 weeks" is getting a bit confused.

The whole purpose here is to select and use things which CLEAR the system in like 3 weeks.

So, stuff like Ethanate or Sustanon are just about out (not worth using). Unles you take 1 shot and .... thats it! (It takes these a good 3 weeks to clean out of the system, or to drop low enough so that you CAN start to bring natural test back online).

And like DECA or EQ? Nope.

You select quick acting substances which clear quickly, and stop then in a manner which has them clear the system by the end of 3 weeks. For example, lets say you use Prop and Tren. My understanding is that you use them for maybe 18 days, then STOP taking them, then allowing a good 3-4 days for the levels for these to drop, THEN after 21 days you are DONE, and can start a post-cycle regimen (i.e clomid or Novaldex).

My understanding is that THAT is the way to do it.
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This is my understanding as well, but that would still leave a considerable amount of time between cycles.
 
The two week post is interesting, but there is one problem I see: the Dbol gains are temporary for the most part, the test as well except for the fact that it is a building block for compliment to quality building drugs. The tren is truly a permanent muscle building drug.
Probably better to go with a four week cycle. At least you can do winny depot for 3 of the 4 weeks, a pre-load of sustanon or test enanthate, a pre-load of EQ, and less orals.
 
great news! so you obviosly believe in short cycles. But what would u think about a 10 wk cycle? btw I have done 9 cycles.
 
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