Results back from endocrinologist..please read!

[HEALTHFREAK]

I started my 2nd cycle after an 8 week layoff despite having a very low test reading. I did make an appointment with the endo just to make sure. Needless to say he told me not to do aas ( as I expected ), but he told me that if I do it probably wouldnt do any permenant damage. After giving me a battery of tests most came back ok. The trouble is that my test levels are still low and my LH and FSH levels are undetectable, also my estrone level is 200+ extremely high. This is why I have been storing fat in "female" areas such as chest and lower waist and butt. He told me it was caused by any Nandrolone product I was using and to stop it now. I used deca because it was suppose to be "clean" and administer low sides. BULLSHIT!

My debate is this. Although he wont prescribe me any , I am going to start LIQUIDEX immediatly and I am unsure wheter or not to take some test (omnadren) and WINSTROL for the next 5 weeks as I planned, or to stop everthing and just use the anti e, s and clomid. This blows for summer is here I my body isnt close to as good as it looked when I was a natural bodybuilder, I am bigger now but also smoother. I don't have gyno but I am definetly storing fat in the lower chest area and it is much less defined than previously.

sorry for writing a book , but I am depressed as shit, because I am working out harder than ever but not recieving the gains I should be due to my high estrogen level and cortisol production interfering with protein synthesis.

I need some help from mods , HUCK or someone, please a.s.a.p.

 

[muscleup]

Bro, I would just continue my cycle as planned...The endo said himself that it will probably not cause anymore damage than already is done....More than likely he will put you on HRT anyways

 

[Zyglamail]

So, are you on cycle now and where you when you got these tests run? Im a bit confused on the timeline. Also what did you last cycle consist of and what does your current cycle consist of (if on one) additionally what did you use for post cycle recovery?

 

[Ulter]

I'm with Ziggy I don't understand the time-line either.

 

[strong island]

If you just started a cycle wouldn't you expect your test, LH and FSH to be low.

That means the shit is working.

I am also confused

 

[strong island]

Get some nolvadex and arimidex...and continue with your cycle. The nolvadex will help with the estrogen already in your body. Contrary to what some believe nandralone does convert to estrogen and you seem to be very sensitive.

Hit the test and winstrol. If you can get some test prop instead of Omnadren it would be better. The Test Prop will get into your system quicker. Plus you can run it up to your clomid therapy. Run the Winny and Prop three weeks past the Deca. Clean up your diet and do some cardio in the morning. You should be able to get rid of that smooth look in no time.

Give us some more info on what your cycle has looked like and what you are planning.

 

[HEALTHFREAK]

sorry gus, here is the time line. In January I started a cycle of deca at 400mgs per week for 10 weeks and winstrol at 50 mgs a day for 6 weeks. I took a 6 -7 week layoff and decided to star a 2nd summer cycle of deca, winstrol, omnadren, eca , and yohimburn. I wanted to get checked out to see if everything was ok before starting so about 3 weeks after cycle 1 I went to see my doc. My tests came ok except for my test level which was extremely low (37, normal is between 250 and 800). So I decided to see an endocrinologist. By the time I saw him I was 2 weeks into my 2nd cycle, only taking 400 mgs per week of deca and 1-ad daily. I know I need to stop the extremely high estrogen level in my body by taking liquidex or letrozole, but can I finish my cycle???

 

[HEALTHFREAK]

bump for some serious help, please

 

[HansNZ]

I wanted to get checked out to see if everything was ok before starting so about 3 weeks after cycle 1 I went to see my doc. My tests came ok except for my test level which was extremely low (37, normal is between 250 and 800). So I decided to see an endocrinologist. By the time I saw him I was 2 weeks into my 2nd cycle, only taking 400 mgs per week of deca and 1-ad daily

Well this explains it. No wonder your FSH and LH levels are undetectable. Once you have finished your cycles properly and undertaken clomid therapy then reassess. You probably won't need HRT (as someone suggested) at all. In any case, some guys will finish 4 weeks of clomid therapy and go into a panic about "permanent suppression". Some guys need 6 months to get things back to normal.

Just keep cycling. Doctors are (and have to be) overly cautious. This is so you can't say they "didn't tell you" and so you can't sue sue them should you be the one-in-a-thousand person to get a side-effect. If you've done any permanent damage (unlikely) then I doubt continuing cycling is going to make much difference.

 

[2wide]

Sounds like someone needs a new doctor.

I hate it when Dr.s talk like they know anything about anabloics next time ask what his exp. is with AAS and what reseach he has studied on the subject and their side effects.

These are the same assclowns that just a few years ago said AAS did nothing to improve athletic performance (well how did they explain my 435 bench for reps at 38 yrs old mind over matter).