Restoring HPTA fastest...

[bigrand]

Hey bros,

Im looking for tips on how to get the HPTA functioning fastest post cycle. I know several juicers at my gym who never heard of clomid and when they come off cycle, they loose most of their gins if not all (coincidence, na).
Anyway, from what ive gathered, start clomid 2 weeks after last shot (ill be using cyp) at 300mg for day 1, 100mg days 2-10, then say 50mg ED for days 10-21. Ive been tipped to throw in arimidex or L'dex during this time, but at what dose. Also, i know that nolva wont be as effective at a'dex, but would it serve a purpose? I say this cuz i have lots of extra nolva i could get rid of...
Anything else???

 

[MaxBiceps]

hcg if you got the $$ and the hookup

 

[ultragainz]

1mg of arimidex is fine

 

[bigrand]

Was thinkin human chorionic gonadatrophin (or however the fuck you spell it), but have heard if you got clomid and a anti-e, its not neccesary..... Just checkin all options here bros, thanx for the replies.

 

[ultragainz]

hcg DOES NOT help the HPTA

 

[bigrand]

Ultra,

Whats its purpose then? Just to get the balls full again?

 

[bigrand]

Damn ice,
i heard the same thing????

 

[NFG123]

HCG can help out, but you gotta be extra careful ... bill roberts suggests using it during your cycle if you are using AAS with a short half life ... don't use more than 1000 IU a day pots cycle or you will shut your HPG (hypo/pit/gonads) the frig down.

NFG

 

[bigrand]

Well, shit, i dont want that.
I guesss i should stick to clomid.

Any opinions on nolva replacing a'dex post cycle (again, i know its not as effective, but would it be benificial at all?).

 

[Willyumyum]

I heard that if you drink goat piss you will me back and running in a day or two!

LOL

j/j

that's rather nasty... Tried it once, it doesn't work and only leaves you with bad breath...

YUM

 

[NFG123]

Nolva is shitty post cycle. You need a whole lot to get the same SERM (selective estrogen receptor modulator) inhibition at pit and hypo ... stick with clomid. Its the best. I think running liquidex or clomid during your cycle MAY help restoration faster, nothing has shown this, but anecdocal evidence has suggested it MAY.

NFG

 

[bigrand]

NFG,

I will always use clomid, but was thinking of adding Nolva.
Ive read that the combo of clomid and arimidex is best, but could nolva replace the A'dex. Clomid to get LH and FSH up again and nolva to block more estrogen????
Im not sure as of why clomid and a'dex is supposed to work so well.

 

[athlete03]

I'd like to know if femara/Clomid combo would be more effective than the standard Arimidex/Clomid post cycle therapy.

 

[Verbal Gorilla]

Clomid has nil effects on LH...Anastrozole and clomid is the only viable option right now...

 

[caiza]

yes bro definately go with clomid+arimidex if your short of dollars u can do 1mg arimi eod instead of ed it has a long half life something like 50hours.

 

[Socio]

Just get WantNoFatAssHo! to hook you up with some bulls testicles .... stack it with nitro tech and you will make more gains after your cycle!

 

[kbrkbr]

that's rather nasty... Tried it once, it doesn't work and only leaves you with bad breath...

YUM

But I bet the goat liked it.

 

[DDRMAN]

21 days

Are you only going to be "on" for 21 days? Hell, that Cyp will just be kicking in when you come off. Dude, you should definately go more like 8 weeks. You could use less shots per week and still get better gains. Just frontload the first week. You should really consider it. Go one shot on Monday and one Thursday at 400mg each. That should prove MUCH more effective in the long run. I am a firm believer that smaller more gradual gains provide more "quality" muscle that will be more permanent than blowing up in 3 weeks. Think about it. It is your choice. Just trying to offer some helpful advice. DDRMAN

 

[NFG123]

Depends on what you're running bro. Arimidex/Liquidex is just an aromatase inhibitor and will stop the conversion of androgen to estradiol (estrogen) (very well) IF you are running this, there shouldnt be a reason to run clomid at the same time. Ive heard back things about nolva during a cycle. I would keep it on han tho, ABSOLUTELY or extra clomid even if you are using an aromatase inhibitor. Nolva and Clomid are SERMs or anti-estrogens. They change the binding conformation of hte ER (estrogen receptor) and while this will work at some sites, it does not at others. Also regarding using Clomid to get LF and FSH up, it really doesn't RESTORE HPG axis. It just modulates the response of estrogen receptors at these sites and derepresses LH. Post cycle, nolva wont help you anymore than clomid will. If you must, id ONLY use nolva if you are getting gyno DURING a cycle-but then again, if I were you, id use clomid instead of nolva at this point anyways.

NFG,

I will always use clomid, but was thinking of adding Nolva.
Ive read that the combo of clomid and arimidex is best, but could nolva replace the A'dex. Clomid to get LH and FSH up again and nolva to block more estrogen????
Im not sure as of why clomid and a'dex is supposed to work so well.

 

[bigrand]

Thanx NFG, good shit.

None of us like the post cycle shutdown, so, im trying to put together ideas as to how we could restore the HPTA fastest to keep maximal amount of gains.....