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Repost:My liquidex/NYC cutting stack...

HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Summer is approaching us.Now more than ever we're thinking of shedding those unwanted lipid accumulations,as it's getting to be beach weather,and the shirts will be coming off.I thought this might serve as a little motivation for those of you getting ready to take that cutting plunge,and possibly might encourage some of you to run my little experiment as well....

Hey guys,just wanted to share my results of a cutting stack I have been running that is centered around A2/estrogen suppression.I recently completed a pretty high-dose run of test/eq/d-bol,and while I put some serious size on with this trio,I made a cardinal mistake-My estrogen management program was piss-poor(I used nolvadex only).Not only did I bloat up like a hot air baloon,but I accumulated a shit-load of estrogenically related fat-patterning all around my waist,lower chest and hip area.
After clomid therapy,I decide to wage war on my A2's/estrogen.I started running 1/4 cc(1mg) daily of liquidex religiously,which had an immediate impact on my bloating and hardened my muscles up nearly overnight.But those stubborn fat pockets were holding on for dear life-HARD CORE DIET TIME.
Three + weeks ago,I started running a Norephedrine/Yohimbine HCL/Caffeine(NYC) stack in conjunction with my liquidex,and the results have been nothing short of astounding.I have been running a keto-type diet with very low carb intake,as well as 1 hour of intense cardio every morning on an empty stomach(except for 2 tabs of NYC taken 45 minutes prior to cardio).

Results?17LBS LOST!!

Granted,I know that this is not all fat,but I have lost damn near 2 inches off my waist and only a 1/4" off my arms,and strength has pretty much stayed stagnant.

Observations-When I first started taking my NYC,I tried taking two caps at once,and this was a little to strong to begin with for me(as each cap has a whopping 2.7mgs of Yohimbine HCL).I started getting the chills from the yohimbine and feeling a little nauseated,so I backed it down to one tab and I was fine.I also noticed if I did not drink enough water with administration,I would experience some stomach irritation,mainly in the form of acid reflux.This was easily extinguished by drinking a FULL glass of water with each dosage.After a week of so,I was able to tolerate 2 tabs at once,and boy it has made a difference.During my cardio,my body heats up like a furnace,and I can literally feel the adipose tissue melting off with each session.My schedule right now is two tabs first thing in the morning upon wakening prior to cardio,two tabs 4 hours later,and 1 tab 3-1/2 hours later.I find that I take the last cap too late into the afternoon,I feel too amped in the evening(my heart rate feels sped up)so I usually cut the last tab off by no later than 2p.m.

Just wanted to share my experience with you guys on what I feel is one of the best post-cycle combinations I have ever tried for ripping up,the liquidex has kept my estrogen production down and hardened my muscles up considerably(through removal of sub-Q water retention and estrogenic fat-patterning),the NYC trio is one of the most potent thermogens for an OTC I have ever used,as well as a potent A2 interactor(due to the high dose of Yohimbine) This combo may be a very wise idea for you folks that accumulate a lot of estrogen related BF in your bulking cycles,as it has taken it off for me in dramatic fashion.
 
I am currently running a clen/liquidex cycle right now.I am only using .5mg EOD with my clen ,and it is working great!I have already lost 3/4'' on my waist and it has only been a week and a half!After this week I am going to start an ECA stack and continue to run the liquidex.After 2 weeks of ECA I will get back on the clen,I cant wait.Liquidex is the shit!
 
Huck do you think .5mgs of armidex or liquidex EOD would be enough to reduce bloat estrogen levels for this stack. Or do you think you would have to use or see much greater results with the same dosage ED. Thanks for your help...
 
Mackavelli-The long half life(50hrs)is well suited to EOD dosing,for me,it's a personal preference in the ED dosing though.It gives me a nice 'spillover' effect where each previous dosing is overlapping the next.

Road dog-Nice!!

Maybe SDRaver will chime in here as well,he's been having some phenomenal results with this type of stack as well.
 
great post Huck :D

I'm doing something very similar. I'm on Crum's diet right now which is a keto diet, except for postworkout carbs. Been eating about 350-375g protein/day, and a good amount of fat from the twp tablespoons daily of Flax, as well as the 38oz of Salmon and 93% lean ground beaf I've been consuming ED.

Also taking Liquidex at .5mg/day, and NYC stack at 6 tabs/day.

Great results so far, seems my body weight is staying the same, but I'm leaning out. Hope to add a small dose of primo soon.

BTW, haven't started any cardio yet, but I'm debating on doing some on my non training days,
 
Liquidex

how do you think a liquidex/xenadrine stack would work for me? im looking to loose body fat and minimize muscle loss im new to body building and have about 20% fat to get rid of. would it be good for a beginer? or no ? also im 20 years old
 
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Tony-If you store 'stubborn fat',that is you have certain areas that just hold on to fat no matter how hard you diet,excercise,then liquidex may be the missing key,as you likely have stubborn A2 receptors that covet lipids.Personally,I would go with a Yohimbine containing compound over standard E/C/A stacks,as these also seem to display an increased affinity on A2's.

kbrkbr-For the NYC,go to www.anabolicfitness.net Click on the 'AF store' section.Great stuff.
 
Huck,

A friend of mine has fatty gyno and his use of yohimburn has only helped some. He is in decent shape but cannot get rid of the fat on his chest that makes him look like he has breasts. Do you think this cycle would help him? Any changes you would make for this condition?
 
energy

does liquidex help at all with endurance str and energy? also huck can u send me a PM on where to get it at a good price ill be using the liquidex for research ofcorse
 
I believe that combining yohimburn and liquidex would probably be the most potent combo in this regard,and that is precisely what I plan on doing next,as I,much like your friend,have always held on to INSANELY stubborn fat in my lower pec/nipple regions.
With the Yohimburn,you have a topical A2 obliterator,which penetrates the dermal membrane and directly targets the A2's to release lipids.With liquidex,you have a powerful aromitase inhibitor that will greatly lower circulating estradiol.Estradiol is a key element in the formation of A2 populations,as well as a catalyst for pre-existing A2's activity of lipid storage.Lowering circulating estradiol with the use of liquidex not only lowers the overall population of A2's,but starves the remaining ones of an essential component for them to activate lipid storage.
 
Thanks Huck! Should the Yohimburn/Liquidex stack be used during the post-cycle clomid period or after the clomid or does it not matter?
 
It can be used during either,but the liquidex will help you recover your endogenous testosterone production even better if it's ran with the clomid.

JG1-Keep feeding us updates on your progress buddy!
 
Glad to see that you reposted this Huck. Liquidex is amazing! I will not run another cycle without it. I am currently running 1mg ed and the results on my low ab/low back fat has been unbelievable not to mention the thinning effect it has on the skin.
 
Huck, i tried emailing you but it keeps on giving me mail undeliverable.. is there another email I can reach you at?
 
GARAGE GORILLA said:
Glad to see that you reposted this Huck. Liquidex is amazing! I will not run another cycle without it. I am currently running 1mg ed and the results on my low ab/low back fat has been unbelievable not to mention the thinning effect it has on the skin.

I concur completely GG!The thinning of the skin and reduction of fluid between skin and muscle is every bit as dramatic as the fat loss to me!I think we will start to see more and more results like this now that liquidex has become so affordable.
 
My stats again

After a month of NYC+Liquidex I've gone from 234 @10% to 227 @ 6.75% BF. I've dropped my Test and only doing the EQ+Fina. This week I will add the Usnic acid to see if it will make a difference. Great combo Huck. I've never seen that big a difference in only a month's time.:D
 
However.....

I'm currently getting a physical done for for a military course. I will post my blood work when it comes in. My EKG results;

-Vent rate 57 bpm
-164/80

resting pulse it great for someone my size but blood pressure a little high. Granted I was doing 1 gr./week of Test among other things so I'm sure that was a factor
 
Huck,
quick question...does combining the NYC have the same effect as combining ECA + Y. Had a terrible experience with that (ECA+Y)and was wondering if effects are similar? Thanks


Kingcreed
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
No,the Norephedrine is much less stimulatory.Always start off low though,caution first is a must.

tell me about it, I'm on 6 tabs/day of NYC and can barely feel it after I take them.
 
Good post Huck! Would you recommend stacking the Liquidex with NYC or Yohimburn for best results? Also I tried to email you but it came back to me saying it didn't go through. Let me know if it didn't, then I'll send you a Pm. thanks


SOLID
 
I think either one of those two will produce solid results,but I will be experimenting with Liquidex/Yohimburn soo,so then I'll be able to determine from first hand experience there.I'm excited!
 
hey old guy

how's that stuff so far, compared to ECA? You feel it like you do an ECA?


HUCKLEBERRY FINAPLEX your mail is full so noone can send you any PM's, Please PM me when you get a chance...thanks!


SOLID
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Tony-If you store 'stubborn fat',that is you have certain areas that just hold on to fat no matter how hard you diet,excercise,then liquidex may be the missing key,as you likely have stubborn A2 receptors that covet lipids.Personally,I would go with a Yohimbine containing compound over standard E/C/A stacks,as these also seem to display an increased affinity on A2's.

kbrkbr-For the NYC,go to www.anabolicfitness.net Click on the 'AF store' section.Great stuff.

Thanks, bro. Once again you come through with the info for me.
 
I've also been using a NYC/Clen/Yohimburn stack for cutting. This past Monday was the start of week 5 and I've already lost 12 pounds. I'm not on any gear right know so I'm sure that some of that was muscle, but the results have been fantastic.

This past Saturday I added Liquidex into the mix and the info you guys have posted is really getting my hopes up. Can't wait to see the added results.

Will hopefully look that much better for the Dominican in a couple of weeks.

'Cak
 
LOL,okay,I just got back to everyone's e-mails...

Keep us updated Pebcak!

Barnidge-Yes,ALA will be terrific with those other items,as it will help utilize macronutrients more efficiently.
 
i'm on day 4 OF MY CLEN/LIQUIDEX/sra creatine/glutamine stack and have never felt so full while cutting...skin is tightening up quite nicely...i'm sweating like a mother though,which is frustrating at times,especially at work...the clen/liquidex combo will be used for 3 weeks and then i will head on into my cycle i e-mailed you about huck...thx for the tips on l-dex...working great right now...
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:


I would not go much past late afternoon.

I would definately agree with this. I took my last 2 pills around 5 PM last night, which for me is much later than normal. Anyway, it took me forever to fall asleep last night. I was wide awake until midnight, and I don't think I got into a deep sleep until around 2 AM. It seems 6:30 AM came earlier than normal this morning.

Pebcak
 
Huck

would you say that Liquidex could be the best supplement for people who carry the stubborn estrogenic fat and ridding this problem? Say if you do eliminate these estrogenic fatty deposits ould you have to be on it 24/7- year round to prevent from the estrogen to build up again and bind itself back to these area's. In other words is this a lifetime treatment for those that suffer from estrogen problems?
 
Re: Huck

i just started taking .5 mg arimidex pills (generic) a week ago and have seen great improvement around the nipple area (mainly estrogenic) Can't wait for my NYC to come in see how much of this God forsaken woman fat I lose... Thanks again Huck for the info on this.
 
da big thinker said:
i'm on day 4 OF MY CLEN/LIQUIDEX/sra creatine/glutamine stack and have never felt so full while cutting...skin is tightening up quite nicely...i'm sweating like a mother though,which is frustrating at times,especially at work...the clen/liquidex combo will be used for 3 weeks and then i will head on into my cycle i e-mailed you about huck...thx for the tips on l-dex...working great right now...

Hehe...You think you're sweatin' now bro...add some T3 and see what happens, even a low dose, 12.5mcg.

People are starring at me right now, they think I'm on cocaine. Can't wait to get the Liquidex.
 
BigAndy69 said:


Hehe...You think you're sweatin' now bro...add some T3 and see what happens, even a low dose, 12.5mcg.

People are starring at me right now, they think I'm on cocaine. Can't wait to get the Liquidex.

LOL!!"Who's the tweaker bodybuilder over there?!?"
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
BTW,another idea that will further potentiate this stack is a consistent,low-dose base of DNP.I plan on adding that into the mix soon:)

Huck, I can't recall on what post I saw mentioned that DNP and NYC was not a good idea to use at the same time? :p
 
That's because the Norephedrine can sometimes leave you a little lethargic,which on top of DNP's lethargy can have you DRAGGING ASS,lol...At a low dose of DNP(coupled with some fruit eaten throughout the day to maintain liver glycogen)this should not be a problem at all.From a lipid mobilization standpoint,the two would work EXTREMELY well together.Toss in the liquidex,and now you are regulating two VERY important hormones which influence lipid storage:Insulin and estrogen.Talk about putting your body in the optimal metabolic environment!
 
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BigAndy69 said:


Hehe...You think you're sweatin' now bro...add some T3 and see what happens, even a low dose, 12.5mcg.

People are starring at me right now, they think I'm on cocaine. Can't wait to get the Liquidex.

you will love the L-DEX...talk to you soon...
 
Barnidge, I'd guess no in general so long as you keep the fat off. Estrogenic fat deposits don't just grow because you have estrogen floating around in your system, it just causes fat to be stored differently when you eat in caloric excess. So as long as you aren't gaining weight/fat, it shouldn't effect you.

However by reading all of this information as of late it might be in people's best interest, specifically those who have had estrogen fat deposits, to add l-dex to any bulking cycle regardless or not if they are on juice. Anytime you may be putting on fat you might want to use it to keep the fat going to "normal" areas.
 
Barnidge-Evidence suggests that anastrozole's enzymatic down-regulating capabilities are far reaching,meaning after discontinuation,the aromitase production remains suppressed for a while.For this reason,I believe that one can get away with running it in 3-4 month intervals with a couple of months off in between,and most likely not experience little to any aromitase rebound.And I agree completely with vageta,it should be a mandatory staple of any endomorphs bulking and cutting cycles,as you do not want aromitase to up-regulate in the first place.Less aromitase=less estrogen=less A2 populations/activity=LESS BODYFAT ACCUMULATION.
 
BIG BUMP ,damn maybe now i can get rid of these fat ass titties of mine. it seems no matter how hard i diet i can't lose the lower nipple fat. i have to try the armidex ,like right away. thanks bro's:D
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
DBT-Awesome!I'm going to one up you in the thermo department with the DNP though,lol!

always a few steps ahead...hey HUCK?---obviously it is your duty to let us know how this goes...and to think i used to say no to DNP...can you convince me HUCK?LOL
 
Old Guy said:
I started my first bottle of NYC yesterday.
How long before bedtime should you take your last dose?

hehehe, if you're like me you can take it at bedtime and still fall right to sleep :D
 
Glad this thread is back, I am going to be using liquidex, and clen soon to rid myself of some stubborn abdominal fat, and water retention. I will probably use ECA when I am off the clen, unless I get some NYC. Great thread Huck.-WULF
 
reposting so Someone may answer

would you say that Liquidex could be the best supplement for people who carry the stubborn estrogenic fat and ridding this problem? Say if you do eliminate these estrogenic fatty deposits ould you have to be on it 24/7- year round to prevent from the estrogen to build up again and bind itself back to these area's. In other words is this a lifetime treatment for those that suffer from estrogen problems?
 
I think one should always cycle on and off,as you really don't want active drug participation year round at the endocrinological level.i believe that a combination of liquidex and a Yohimbine-containing compound is probably the best bet for those possesssing very stubborn pockets of estrogenic/A2 influenced adipose.
 
I was reluctant to post this because it sounds like a sales pitch but if I don't post it eventually then everyone will want to know why there was no warning that NYC is gone.
We are down to the last few cases of NYC. They will last until sometime in June. This product is a huge success for us and I want to sell it forever but this is it. I am very sad to see this go and as everyone knows we are not allowed to make any more of it.
So what I am saying is that if you're going to buy a bottle don't put it off too long and get two of them. Like I said, this sounds like a sale pitch but think about it, we will sell it out no matter what, and we don't make a dime more selling it out in May rather than in June.
Just FYI.
 
ulter said:
I was reluctant to post this because it sounds like a sales pitch but if I don't post it eventually then everyone will want to know why there was no warning that NYC is gone.
We are down to the last few cases of NYC. They will last until sometime in June. This product is a huge success for us and I want to sell it forever but this is it. I am very sad to see this go and as everyone knows we are not allowed to make any more of it.
So what I am saying is that if you're going to buy a bottle don't put it off too long and get two of them. Like I said, this sounds like a sale pitch but think about it, we will sell it out no matter what, and we don't make a dime more selling it out in May rather than in June.
Just FYI.

Thanks for the update.

I just ordered 4 bottles :D
 
ulter said:
I was reluctant to post this because it sounds like a sales pitch but if I don't post it eventually then everyone will want to know why there was no warning that NYC is gone.
We are down to the last few cases of NYC. They will last until sometime in June. This product is a huge success for us and I want to sell it forever but this is it. I am very sad to see this go and as everyone knows we are not allowed to make any more of it.
So what I am saying is that if you're going to buy a bottle don't put it off too long and get two of them. Like I said, this sounds like a sale pitch but think about it, we will sell it out no matter what, and we don't make a dime more selling it out in May rather than in June.
Just FYI.


that sucks.. is there any other product like it or are all norephedrine (sp?) products discontinued?
 
Huckster, Awesome post.

It's damn True, estrogen is probably the number 1 thing that keeps most guys who work out hard and diet religiously not be able to get that razor thin skin.

Just becareful of the Estrogen Rebound effect that might happen, Taper off slowly and steadily.

Basically, you have to get all your shit together, diet, foods, workout routine, "supplements", and go at it for 2 months HARD, no looking back.

Just make sure you get down to AT LEAST 10-12% before you do this though.

If you're at 20% bodyfat, just know that the EASIEST part of your whole getting in shape routine, is the first 10% of bodyfat you are going to lose. Once you get down to 10% bodyfat, that's when it becomes hard. So save you're best, for that time only.
 
One more thing, once you hit 10-12% bodyfat, and you do decide to hit up the nyc/liquidex/arimidex/yohimburn/diet stack...

Okay let's say after all the blood, sweat, tears and light beers, you hit your goal of 6% Bodyfat.... DO NOT immediatly go on a Bulking up Diet....

At this point it would probably be wise, to slowly taper off the liquidex/arimidex and CONTINUE to do your cardio and keep your diet on point.

If you bulk up now, possibly due to your previous surpessed estrogen levels, estrogen will increase and you'll once again put on the estrogen induced fat patterns. Diet/Cardio for another month or so, until you taper off the arimidex/liquidex.... then, slowly increase your calories...

P.S. 30-50mg of Zinc, during, before and after can be a valuable aid in hormonal balance.
 
Is NYC an over the counter supp ?

Or do you buy all 3 seperate ?
 
well I am on the bandwagon, I just started adding .25mg of arimidex per day to my NYC, T-3, GH and 12.5mg Dbol(early am dose only). we will see how this does as I am dieting and doing cardio, Also I have already started taking in the ALA. I will soon find out it this is Hype or ???

:mexican:
 
just wanted to give an update on my arimidex/yohimburn/nyc/clen cycle... Been a week and a half and i finally found out that i have a lower chest. All my life, even at my lowest body fat there was always fat around the nipple area and lower chest. GeEEEzus, the results are outstanding.. can't wait to try this with liquidex rather than splitting pills everyday, but oh well. Next week I start the clen---- will keep posted.
 
I have a feeling that Yohimburn/liquidex may prove to be that 'magic bullet' that endomorphs with impossible to get rid of adipose pockets have been searching for their whole life.Definitely looks like one explosive combination.
 
Wow, I'm going to get some NYC and Yohimburn, sounds like a great combo, but can't too much Yohimbine be bad for you? How do you know when your getting too much? I'm going to use Yohimburn/ED and NYC stacked with Liquidex. What do you say Huck? Thanks...

SOLID
 
Yes,too much Yohimbine can cause problems,specially for individuals(like myself)who are sensitive to the compound.Start off low and very gradually and slowly work your way up.Typical overdosing response is chills and nausea.
 
hey guys/gals i notice something behind my right nipple GYNO? fat deposits,,,,,,,,,and saw this thread .........seeing that it helps eliminate estrogenic fat deposits which i might have ???

how effective would dnp/liquidex be? or clen/ldex ? just to loose that fatty deposit behind my nipple if it is fat,,,,,,,,,,,(GYNO REDUCTION) possible??

also i dont know much on yohimburn so i assume it be the next best thing to the NYC stack so how does one use the yohimbeburn? apply it once daily at the area that gives u the problem which in my case now is the chest??? thx:)
 
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Doofy, aren't you that 21 year old kid that weighs 150 lbs? How can you have fat deposits?


D00fy said:
hey guys/gals i notice something behind my right nipple GYNO? fat deposits,,,,,,,,,and saw this thread .........seeing that it helps eliminate estrogenic fat deposits which i might have ???

how effective would dnp/liquidex be? or clen/ldex ? just to loose that fatty deposit behind my nipple if it is fat,,,,,,,,,,,(GYNO REDUCTION) possible??

also i dont know much on yohimburn so i assume it be the next best thing to the NYC stack so how does one use the yohimbeburn? apply it once daily at the area that gives u the problem which in my case now is the chest??? thx:)
 
Doofy I've seen your after pics.

1) You do not have gyno

2) You do not have any estrogenic fatty deposits.

3) You do not need liquidex.

4) If you have the money just get some Yohimburn for those final stubborn fat layers.

5) Eat Pussy.
 
How are you guys using the Yohimburn/ NYC?

Do you take NYC everyday. Also with the Yohimburn, are you using it 2 on 1 off or just evryday? What's the best way to use it?

Thanks
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Where do I find this?

JG1 said:
great post Huck :D

I'm doing something very similar. I'm on Crum's diet right now which is a keto diet, except for postworkout carbs. Been eating about 350-375g protein/day, and a good amount of fat from the twp tablespoons daily of Flax, as well as the 38oz of Salmon and 93% lean ground beaf I've been consuming ED.

Also taking Liquidex at .5mg/day, and NYC stack at 6 tabs/day.

Great results so far, seems my body weight is staying the same, but I'm leaning out. Hope to add a small dose of primo soon.

BTW, haven't started any cardio yet, but I'm debating on doing some on my non training days,
Hey Bro where do I find this?
 
basskiller said:
Huck, What did a typical day look like in terms of meals?
bass

Meal #1 Met-rx protein shake

Meal #2 Non-fat cottage cheese and non fat yogurt

Meal #3 Mongolian Beef(chinese food dish with beef and green onions)

Meal #4 Met-Rx protein shake

Meal # 5 Canned Turkey chuncks with lean grated cheese

Meal # 6 Met-rx "protein Plus" super low carb protein shake
 
liquidex

just a quick question. i am new to htis game and i'm exited to try my first cycle. i want to stay as lean as i can but put on some size. i was going to do a cycle of sust by itself and do lots of cardio. would a liquidex/sust be a good 1st cycle? 6' .200 pounds. 14 % BF.
 
One of the best threads I've read in a while. Thanks for all the time and effort Huck.

BTW, we can still get E/C here in Canada (not much longer though so I just stocked up). Would you guys be taking it if you could get it in the US or would you still prefer Yohimburn or NYC?

Gotta get me some liquidex for my upcoming cutting cycle!!! The shit sounds wicked!!!:fro: ;)
 
Re: liquidex

mvp8 said:
just a quick question. i am new to htis game and i'm exited to try my first cycle. i want to stay as lean as i can but put on some size. i was going to do a cycle of sust by itself and do lots of cardio. would a liquidex/sust be a good 1st cycle? 6' .200 pounds. 14 % BF.

It would be excellent!Bloat free,pure anabolism...

Sust@500mgs/week for 8 weeks
Liquidex@1/4cc ED or EOD for 12 weeks
Clomid started at week 11
 
Huck,

I owe you some abs since this idea you had helped me to see mine again... I started my first cutter of Fina/T3. Well I ran the T3 the first 3 weeks laddering up to 75 and back down. No weight loss...went from 198 to 215 LOL(some cutter huh?) Anyways, by 4.5 weeks I still hadnt lost much fat but was up to 220 @ same BF%. So I figured I would try it out. I got some tabs of arimidex that measure 1.2mg/tab tested. I have been taking them for only a 1.5 weeks at 1 tab EOD and already my bottom abs are coming in! I use yohimburn in the morning b4 my 45 mins of cardio and again at night b4 bed. I have been using the NYC during the day and it has helped suppress my appetite drastically. Not much weight loss to report but have gotten significantly leaner in only 1.5 weeks I have been doing it. I cant thank you enough!

Chuck
 
Now doin Lquidex/NYC/Usnic Acid combo. we'lll see what happens. Lquid/NYC was potent enough but just experimenting now.
 
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