Red Light Cameras

[bluepeter]

And with lots of aromatic Nut Cheese..

Gives a whole new meaning to "Swamp Ass"

Must be where Tom Green got the idea for a cheese helmet.

 

[Mr. dB]

The Baby is the Traffic enforcements measures that are working at high accident
rate intersections. This is where these lights are normally placed.

The Bathwater is the issues you are mentioning as in short yellows, crooked officials and kickbacks etc that should be fixed by complaining, call action news or booting them out of office..
Have you done any of these things about this problem?

Learn what a "Stale Green light" is, and be prepared to stop when you see one.

And I still haven't heard any suggestions on how to better control traffic control devices which as we all know are 100% neccesary.

Is there any evidence that red light cameras are effective at calming traffic? Seems to me that, by definition, all they can do is punish offenders.

These dangerous intersections that you complain about are not caused by inadequate enforcement, they are caused by inadequate engineering. Throwing stepped-up enforcement at the problem solves nothing, it's just another failed attempt at behavior modification. The solution is to analyze and re-engineer the intersections in question, so that they can adequately handle the demands of the traffic volume.

 

[bluepeter]

Is there any evidence that red light cameras are effective at calming traffic? Seems to me that, by definition, all they can do is punish offenders.

These dangerous intersections that you complain about are not caused by inadequate enforcement, they are caused by inadequate engineering. Throwing stepped-up enforcement at the problem solves nothing, it's just another failed attempt at behavior modification. The solution is to analyze and re-engineer the intersections in question, so that they can adequately handle the demands of the traffic volume.

I agree but you would still have all kinds of people running lights. It seems to be their nature that they can't wait for 60 seconds at a light so they try and gun it through. The solution to the traffic problem is certainly not red light cameras but IMO they are still a necessity even if traffic volume is no longer an issue.

 

[*MissFit*]

I gotta go to court today for a parking ticket...

 

[Lumberg]

Is there any evidence that red light cameras are effective at calming traffic? Seems to me that, by definition, all they can do is punish offenders.

Supposedly accidents overall are down in VA since installation, but no hard correlation.

Like I said if there were a sign, you'd be warning people ahead of time, rather than punishing them afterwards; the gov't needs to put its money where its mouth is and act to DETER the activity, not line their pockets.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

60 seconds Bluepeter??? BWHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAH

To get from my Condo complex to the highwway is approx 1.2 miles. There are 4 traffic lights.

The heaviest traffic flow goes down my street through those lights straight to the highway. None of them are times with each other.. So if you hit one red.. you hiot all red.. if you hit one green.. you hit the other three red.

In three years of living here.. I have made those lights a total of three times.

the lights run red to hundreds of cars.. most of the time.. so one car on a side street can go.. and their light is timed just as long.

Peopel got so frustrated they started running the light.. so instead of the city fixing the lights .. they shorten the yellow and install a camera.


On a good day it takes me TEN MINUTES to go 1.2 miles and get on the highway.. and BTW.. I leave for work at 5:45 AM..


Dont EVER wonder why people dont trust red light cameras, traffic engineers or local governments.. the ONLY purpose of those camers is revenue.. "saftey" is just an excuse they use to convice the dumbfucks..


and BTW thew INSIDE OF YOUR CAR you have eevry right to expect privacy.. the prrof being that if a cop wants to search it... he needs a warrant.. and guess what that camera takes a picture of ALONG with your plate.. ... the inside of your car.

 

[Lumberg]

dude, ride your bike or something. fuckin 1.2 miles.

 

[bluepeter]

60 seconds Bluepeter??? BWHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAH

To get from my Condo complex to the highwway is approx 1.2 miles. There are 4 traffic lights.

The heaviest traffic flow goes down my street through those lights straight to the highway. None of them are times with each other.. So if you hit one red.. you hiot all red.. if you hit one green.. you hit the other three red.

In three years of living here.. I have made those lights a total of three times.

the lights run red to hundreds of cars.. most of the time.. so one car on a side street can go.. and their light is timed just as long.

Peopel got so frustrated they started running the light.. so instead of the city fixing the lights .. they shorten the yellow and install a camera.


On a good day it takes me TEN MINUTES to go 1.2 miles and get on the highway.. and BTW.. I leave for work at 5:45 AM..


Dont EVER wonder why people dont trust red light cameras, traffic engineers or local governments.. the ONLY purpose of those camers is revenue.. "saftey" is just an excuse they use to convice the dumbfucks..


and BTW thew INSIDE OF YOUR CAR you have eevry right to expect privacy.. the prrof being that if a cop wants to search it... he needs a warrant.. and guess what that camera takes a picture of ALONG with your plate.. ... the inside of your car.

That's great man. I'm not disagreeing with your premise that a serious change needs to be made in the engineering of traffic flow. Regardless, most people that run red lights do so because they are in a rush and gun it through to save a little time. I see it every day and I've seen several accidents as a result. Every time I see it I hope that the fucker just got his picture taken and gets a letter with a hefty fine.

 

[gtrcivic]

Wash DC made $124 million from their red light cameras last year..and adding more...just came out today they had a fiscal surplus of $395 million.. hmmmmmm wonder why ?

agree that red light running is dangerous and people get tboned from it....but don't quicken the yellow light...heck there should be a 1.5 sec delay for the opp side of traffic before it turns green....sure that'll solve some of the tboning

 

[chesty]

The cameras are set to be tripped if you enter the intersection on red, not if you are already in it. The intersection starts the line drawn from the straight part of the sidewalk to the other side.

So, if you or a part of you is already in the intersection when the light turns red you are safe.