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GymIntensity
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newbie210 said:
only other thing would probably be what lance armstrong was tested for to make sure he wasn't doping. IT starts with an "e" but I dont know how to spell the entire word but it increase red blood cells and thickens blood, sometimes too much.
GymIntensity
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bigrand said:
thanks bigrand EPO is exactly what I was talking about, I didn't know how to spell the long form of it and was too lazy to look it up for the guy.
instant.muscle
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epo, isnt that shit really bad for u?
Cauliflower Ear
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huh good info guys...isnt that shit impossible to find?
macrophage69alpha
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all anabolic steroids increase RBC's.
Anadrol is associated with high RBC's (and was widely prescribed for aplastic anemia) though have not seen head to head studies (except a few case studies)
this case study in particular, as well as the posits, was interesting
Am J Med Sci. 1978 May-Jun;275(3):345-51. Related Articles, Links
Remission of pure red cell aplasia following oxymetholone therapy.
Chang JC, Slutzker B, Lindsay N.
A 53-year-old male with a long-standing idiopathic pure red cell aplasia, refractory to testosterone cypionate, fluoxymesterone, and corticosteroid, was successfully treated with oxymetholone. Blood count, bone marrow, reticuloendothelial bone marrow scan, and ferrokinetic studies showed a marked increase of erythropoiesis in response to oxymetholone. The patient became hematologically normal within 12 weeks and has required no further transfusions. This observation suggests possible difference of mechanisms in the action of various androgenic drugs. It also suggests that failure of response to one androgenic agent does not necessarily mean the other androgenic agents will not be effective in cases of refractory idiopathic pure red cell aplasia.
Anadrol is associated with high RBC's (and was widely prescribed for aplastic anemia) though have not seen head to head studies (except a few case studies)
this case study in particular, as well as the posits, was interesting
Am J Med Sci. 1978 May-Jun;275(3):345-51. Related Articles, Links
Remission of pure red cell aplasia following oxymetholone therapy.
Chang JC, Slutzker B, Lindsay N.
A 53-year-old male with a long-standing idiopathic pure red cell aplasia, refractory to testosterone cypionate, fluoxymesterone, and corticosteroid, was successfully treated with oxymetholone. Blood count, bone marrow, reticuloendothelial bone marrow scan, and ferrokinetic studies showed a marked increase of erythropoiesis in response to oxymetholone. The patient became hematologically normal within 12 weeks and has required no further transfusions. This observation suggests possible difference of mechanisms in the action of various androgenic drugs. It also suggests that failure of response to one androgenic agent does not necessarily mean the other androgenic agents will not be effective in cases of refractory idiopathic pure red cell aplasia.
kmoe42
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my friend is on 300 mg of EQ a week and on week three he threw up and cut his esophagus had to go to hospital.. long story short they had to take his blood and the doctor asked if he was takin any supplements and he was like ya why and he said becuz it looked like he had been training in the mountains for 2 years his red blood cells were 3 times more than normal.. so at 300mg a week (which is low) it will still help a bunch and i dont think 3 weeks is very long to wait..
Cauliflower Ear
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good info macro
macrophage69alpha
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Bozwell said:
yes, if you are dehydrated or have some condition that would be exacerbated by higher levels of RBC's
instant.muscle
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greattt, bout 2 start my EQ cycle for the first time at 600mg, hope i dont diemacrophage69alpha said:
macrophage69alpha
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instant.muscle said:
not likely. the issue, which is not common, with high RBC's usually occurs in cyclists and marathoners during the event.
instant.muscle
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good, not dying would b a good thing in my book, i plan on keeping a journal for u guys when i start my cycle
Some interesting reading http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/llewellyn/steroids-and-red-blood-cells.htm
In short "Potent anabolics such as nandrolone, testosterone and oxymetholone are similarly good enhancers of erythropoiesis""Certainly those mentions of the vast superiority of one agent such as Anadrol or Equipoise over all others should be ignored."
In short "Potent anabolics such as nandrolone, testosterone and oxymetholone are similarly good enhancers of erythropoiesis""Certainly those mentions of the vast superiority of one agent such as Anadrol or Equipoise over all others should be ignored."
Cauliflower Ear
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well which is the best one then...i am confused
Cauliflower Ear
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good article...trader...much appreciated
macrophage69alpha
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trader said:
bill has little basis for such a claim, he would have been correct in saying that steroids other than anadrol and EQ increase RBC's but he has presented no evidence refuting that anadrol in particular provides superior hematocrit increases (there are no studies in humans on boldenone- so there is absolutely no grounds for even making assertions regarding it)
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